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The Unprecedented Nature of Hillary's Email
self | 10 Mar 2015 | Self

Posted on 03/10/2015 12:51:49 PM PDT by fruser1

There may be precedence of using private email accounts in government, but I don't know of anyone having their own hardware system at their private residence.

Using accounts at google still allows subpoenas to be issued to the ISP such that data can be retrieved from archives, even if the user has deleted them.

Quite frankly, I'm not concerned about Hillary's email to other .gov addresses. I'm sure they're benign. I'm also sure she knows when something is classified. As a Secretary of State, if you wanted to hand off something classified, what better way to do it than in person through the old diplomatic pouch? I mostly discount any "spy" angle here.

But I do not discount the "pay to play" angle here.

The first question of "why?" is still unanswered. Why establish an entire system at home when you can just rent your own webspace from any ISP? Was this because they thought it was cheaper to maintain that hardware themselves? The only feasible reason for this is concealment. You do not have to be a paranoid person to see this.

One thing worth concealing would be "pay to play" arrangements. Hence, I can't help but wonder what policy was manipulated based on donations and what evidence there would be of that on their system.

It'd be easy for her to solicit donations in person and use the private system for subsequent communication. One question not asked at the press conference was if she had any communication with people outside of the country on her private email.

Of course, if she answered in the negative and a subsequent forensic analysis of her system proved the contrary, she'd be in a bit of trouble. However, since she actually owns the hardware, that hardware could be destroyed almost as easily as emails could be deleted. You can bet that all the hard drives and memory on those systems have been replaced by now. A perfect cover up.

Finally, since it is her own system, we are left to take her at her word that there was no email contact with administration officials solely on .gov accounts. I find it hard to believe that there was never any correspondence to the private accounts of other officials especially since, in her own words, "everyone had personal accounts".

And God only knows, what Bill is keeping hidden.

There used to be a bumper sticker out there that said “Question Authority”.

Hillary has a new one that says “Trust Us!”.


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To: fruser1

Nah, no problem here. Everyone knows private email accounts are secure and no foreign or domestic players could exploit national security information.

/s

Hillary Clinton and her apologists give new meaning to the words, “incredible idiot”.

Once again Hillary knows more than any other person alive, when it comes to what should and shouldn’t be done as a (department head) Secretary to the President of the United States.

Anyone else would have already lost their job and be facing charges for what Hillary did.


41 posted on 03/10/2015 2:21:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: nascarnation

A private server at a private residence with a sitting Secretary to the President of the United States and all her government email on it, is not kid stuff.

We may never know how much her exploited information compromised our nation’s national security.

It may have contributed to things that went wrong under her, Benghazi et al.

Foreign governments and operatives likely knew of this long before the public did. It’s their job to exploit such things.

I agree that the Clinton’s scandals were also very important, and that nothing ever happened. Chinese spies at the top levels of the Clinton administration would be just one of them.


42 posted on 03/10/2015 2:26:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: Ben Mugged

Questions

Wouldn’t a .gov email server BLOCK emails that came from an outside domain, at least until someone manually overrode their standard protocols?

If they didn’t they would have to deal with tons and tons of spam mail.

I know many mail servers simply won’t accept emails from an unknown domain.

If this is true than someone at State AND the White House would have had to AUTHORIZE THE USE of a Clintons private domain !!!!!!


43 posted on 03/10/2015 2:33:10 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

as in obama?
who now admits he emailed her but was “unaware” of the nature of her server

uh huh

that address didn’t end in .gov did it barry?


44 posted on 03/10/2015 2:35:25 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: MeshugeMikey

remember who Bill appointed to head the CIA?
John Deutsch
Who took home classified information on his personal laptop on which his kid played games

remember the investigation of that breach? err, whut? Deutsch was pardoned by Clinton on Clinton’s last day in office? ya don’t say!

and then there was Sandy Berger and his socks sneaking classified docs out of the files...tsk tsk tsk


45 posted on 03/10/2015 2:41:56 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: henkster

She really cannot scrub her emails because she doesn’t know what Trey Gowdy or others already have copies of. Wouldn’t it be interesting if in the ruins of the Benghazi consulate, amongst all those papers strewn about, were emails from Clinton to Ambassador Stevens?


46 posted on 03/10/2015 2:43:28 PM PDT by Typelouder
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To: silverleaf

my my what a lovely couple the Appear....to be...to some..... knuckleheads..


47 posted on 03/10/2015 2:49:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Typelouder

Hillary would know if the Gowdy committee had damning evidence because of the Democrats on it. Think ‘Law and Order’ with defense attorneys present at every conversation and action.


48 posted on 03/10/2015 2:49:49 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The only other parties with that information would be such parties as may have hacked her system.

Nope. Those parties would be any to whom Hillary sent email, whether personal or business, legal or illegal.

That's the problem with email — it works by sending messages to lots of different computers. And Hillary had root access to only one of those computers.

49 posted on 03/10/2015 3:11:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Zeneta

“Questions”

Non gov emails could be blocked but they don’t. They do use spam blockers, but that usually results in items being sent to a “junk” folder, which can still be accessed.

What is typically done is blocking access FROM the government system TO an email server itself (which is not the same as preventing mail from being sent to a non gov address).

E.g., if you have a gov laptop, it will block you from logging into your Yahoo mail account. This is because they don’t want the government network exposed over that connection. Simply sending an email doesn’t do that so there is no problem in just sending / receiving mail from private systems (though you still have to worry about viruses and hostile links so they tell you to delete unrecognized senders).

Incidentally, this is why Hillary would need two devices to use private and gov email. I’ve heard folks in the news talking about how easy it is to access two different email accounts from one device, but they are obviously unaware of the gov restriction on that.


50 posted on 03/10/2015 3:33:36 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Non gov emails could be blocked but they don’t. They do use spam blockers, but that usually results in items being sent to a “junk” folder, which can still be accessed.


So, shortly after taking office it is very likely that Hillary had to follow-up her e-mails to .gov, including ones to 0bama, with a phone call saying “I sent you an email?,,, Check your spam folder”


51 posted on 03/10/2015 3:44:41 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

“Check your spam folder”

You can set your spam blocker to block emails from domains or individual senders if you want, but they generally block based on keywords like “viagra” in the subject line or in the content.


52 posted on 03/10/2015 4:18:35 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Zeneta
A spam filter is by context and/or domain. The filter looks for a certain set of words based on a rule set and classifies the email as good or spam. Some domains are restricted so no emails from that domain (such as the .XXX domain) are allowed through. Simple thing to set up a filter rule to allow Clinton emails through and this is a policy executed by relatively low ranking administrators.

It is not at all unusual for non-government domains to be allowed to send email through the firewall and to individuals/departments within the Government community. All those emails are retained and archived.

53 posted on 03/10/2015 4:20:35 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged

A spam filter is by context and/or domain. The filter looks for a certain set of words based on a rule set and classifies the email as good or spam. Some domains are restricted so no emails from that domain (such as the .XXX domain) are allowed through. Simple thing to set up a filter rule to allow Clinton emails through and this is a policy executed by relatively low ranking administrators.

It is not at all unusual for non-government domains to be allowed to send email through the firewall and to individuals/departments within the Government community. All those emails are retained and archived.


I understand.

So, am I to believe that the newly created, clintonemail.com domain never hit 0bama’s spam folder?

And required ACTION on the part of the recipient?

Nevermind the dozens of other Government employees?

I think I’ll register a dozen or so variations of what 0bama’s private domain will likely be when he leaves office.


54 posted on 03/10/2015 4:30:16 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

You can’t register cuss words as a domain. They have all already been taken. That most likely eliminates a lot of Obama potential.


55 posted on 03/10/2015 4:34:27 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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