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How Russia Plans To Retaliate For The Saudi-Driven Collapse In Oil
Zero Hedge ^ | February 10, 2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/10/2015 9:53:05 PM PST by lbryce

A week ago we explained that yet another conspiracy theory, one involving virtually every geopolitical hotzone, from Saudi Arabia, to Russia, the United States, Qatar, Syria, ISIS, and Ukraine, has become fact when our speculation from last September, namely that the plunge in oil was an choreographed move between the US and the Saudis (even if Kerry realized - we hope - that it meant a recession for the US energy producing states and a collapse in the only vibrant US industry of the past decade: shale), one seeking to dislodge Russian control over the Syrian government and to facilitate the passage of a Qatar pipeline under Syrian territory.

This is what the NYT said: "Saudi Arabia has been trying to pressure President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia to abandon his support for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, using its dominance of the global oil markets at a time when the Russian government is reeling from the effects of plummeting oil prices."

The NYT added:

Saudi Arabia and Russia have had numerous discussions over the past several months that have yet to produce a significant breakthrough, according to American and Saudi officials. It is unclear how explicitly Saudi officials have linked oil to the issue of Syria during the talks, but Saudi officials say — and they have told the United States — that they think they have some leverage over Mr. Putin because of their ability to reduce the supply of oil and possibly drive up prices. That's the quo. As for the quid, it is as we predicted:

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bybrianwilliams; crimea; donetsk; energy; iran; lebanon; lunacy; oil; oilprice; opec; pipeline; putin; qatar; ruble; russia; saudiarabia; syria; tylerdurden; tylerdurdenmyass; ukraine; walterduranty; zerohedge
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Here's an amusement park r ride no one has yet dared create, so far. Just a reminder. Yo're going to take this ride whether you like it or not.

Buckle in, Hang on tight, try to enjoy the hairpin curves, the zero gravity whirls, being held upside down to help loosen the currency that they're trying to pry loose from you, while Obama heads off to the course to develop strategy.

1 posted on 02/10/2015 9:53:05 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Yawn...


2 posted on 02/10/2015 10:01:54 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: lbryce

What are they gonna do, help get hitlary elected?


3 posted on 02/10/2015 10:06:14 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Southack; lbryce

Gas is on the raise again!!!


4 posted on 02/10/2015 10:07:53 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: lbryce

The host's all seem to be scratching...

Hmmm

5 posted on 02/10/2015 10:17:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceitm)
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To: danamco

Gas and petroleum demand is pretty inelastic. The oil industry should flex is muscle and keep gas price high regardless of crude oil market. What are people going to do? Stop driving and shutting down industry?

But this won’t happen because of gubmint intervention and the bs anti collusion tyrannical laws.


6 posted on 02/10/2015 10:22:03 PM PST by sagar
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To: dragnet2

Bad case of crotch crickets.


8 posted on 02/10/2015 10:32:07 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: dragnet2

“Desert Duck Dynasty meets Lerch and the SS.”


9 posted on 02/10/2015 10:32:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lbryce
OK, I understand OPEC wanting the pipeline through Syria.

What I don’t understand is how getting rid of Assad improves their chances of making the pipeline a reality.

Depose Assad and the rebels take over. I don’t see the rebels taking over as improving stability in Syria. Without a stable government in Syria the pipeline will not be built.

10 posted on 02/10/2015 10:34:14 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Sand crabs?


11 posted on 02/10/2015 10:40:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceitm)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yeah, check the 7 foot tall guy. He could stop a belt bomb. Nice trustworthy looking group.


12 posted on 02/10/2015 10:43:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceitm)
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To: lbryce

If oil price war is on, then Moscow cannot afford to lose oil control territory in Syria. Smh. The perception war aside as to which party is belligerent or imperialistic, it seems like the question is whether Obama intends to fight and let alone win this war.


13 posted on 02/10/2015 10:44:35 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: vette6387

Unions playing OPEC cartel redux. There is no end in the trail of oil price extortion and gauging.


14 posted on 02/10/2015 10:46:24 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Pontiac

Denying Russia oil control is priority. Get ourselves the control is the second one.


15 posted on 02/10/2015 10:47:38 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Pontiac
What I don’t understand is how getting rid of Assad improves their chances of making the pipeline a reality.

Because Assad is in bed with Iran.

16 posted on 02/10/2015 11:05:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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Because Assad is in bed with Iran.

True.

The rebels are no fans of the Saudis or other member states of OPEC either if I read the news correctly.

So unless the members of OPEC are willing to fight the rebels for control of Syria after Assad is gone I don’t see an upside for them in deposing Assad. They will simply have supplanted a dictator that is unwilling to cooperate with them for a chaotic state with fighting factions that is unwilling to cooperate with them.

17 posted on 02/10/2015 11:12:53 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
So unless the members of OPEC are willing to fight the rebels for control of Syria after Assad is gone I don’t see an upside for them in deposing Assad. They will simply have supplanted a dictator that is unwilling to cooperate with them for a chaotic state with fighting factions that is unwilling to cooperate with them.

Yup, heck of a place to maintain a pipeline that can be blown with an RPG.

18 posted on 02/10/2015 11:21:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: vette6387

Nah, it’s mostly Shell that has it’s prices above $3.50 while 76, Mobil, Arco were below $2.50. The same idiot unions who control Shell refineries were the cause. Those figures I stated were 2 weeks going when the Shell station in downtown had the very same prices until today for 2 weeks straight while everyone is way down.


19 posted on 02/10/2015 11:44:45 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Carry_Okie; lbryce
You may remember that after Sadam’s fall in Iraq one the major problems with Iraq becoming self-sufficient was the constant sabotage of the oil pipelines and bandits punching hole in the pipes to steal oil.

They couldn’t keep the pipelines in service because of the constant damage being done to them.

I cannot see Syria being different.

20 posted on 02/11/2015 12:05:39 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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