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Caterpillar is latest victim of sliding oil price
Market Watch ^ | Jan 5, 2015 | Ciara Linnane

Posted on 01/17/2015 7:05:54 AM PST by thackney

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To: thackney
Thanks for the chart. If I'm reading it correctly, it only goes back about 6 months or so.

Do you have one that goes back a year? Two years? Five years? Ten years?

21 posted on 01/17/2015 7:29:25 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Analyst predicts impact of cheap oil: less cargo, lower rates
http://www.todaystrucking.com/analyst-predicts-impact-of-cheap-oil-less-cargo-lower-rates

Moving less cargo is not going to help the trucking industry.


22 posted on 01/17/2015 7:30:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Texas Eagle

>> That just means more Americans can now afford to buy Caterpillar stocks.

They’ve been on my “watch list” for awhile. They pay a 3.3% dividend at their current price (match THAT at your local savings and loan!) and they’re down ~$30 on the year. P/E of about 13 now.

Of course they could cut that dividend if they fall on hard times, but in ten years their dividend has only grown (from $0.21/share in 2005 to $0.70 now). They didn’t even cut their dividend in 20019 when their shares lost >50% of their value (which they soon recovered, and then some).


23 posted on 01/17/2015 7:30:51 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: thackney

Seems to me other sectors Cat is in may pick up because of lower fuel prices, but I assume the ‘pros’ know best.

Haven’t read anything clear about the real sufferers from the low price- those who are locked in to high future delivery. I suppose those who actually use the fuels, transportation, are protected because their competitors are in the same position as they are and no one has an advantage.
Speculators are balanced, or prepared to take the hit.


24 posted on 01/17/2015 7:32:07 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Click the chart, it links back to the Yahoo source. I picked 6 months because that is close to the time frame that oil prices have been dropping.


25 posted on 01/17/2015 7:32:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Welp, this has been a fun argument but I gotta go fill up my pickup and head to work.

And I'm going to enjoy the hell out the smell of that $2.25 gas.

I might even parlay the money that would've gone into my gas tank two months ago into a nice dinner for the Missus and myself.

But something tells me the price of my chicken cacciatore hasn't been cut in half since last time we went.

Have a great day. I will be back in a few hours to taunt you a second time-eh.

26 posted on 01/17/2015 7:33:35 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

conditioning!

High Prices have to be mandatory for essentials - food, energy, medical.

Low Prices/Competitive Prices are mandatory for crap we don’t need and to keep us busy - consumer electronics

If you don’t support high energy prices you are a commie.


27 posted on 01/17/2015 7:34:58 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Texas Eagle
this has been a fun argument

I still have not figured out what you think we are arguing about. My purpose for posting the article was not just for you. Have a great day. I paid $1.72 a couple days ago.

28 posted on 01/17/2015 7:37:07 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Truckers and ordinary consumers will certainly benefit from lower gas prices.

Ask the thousands truckers in the oil patch about that, and the many thousands of consumers from Virginia to Idaho who draw a good oil-related paycheck.

If you are saving money at the pump, I say good on you. That's how the market works.

But there are a great many 'ordinary' people who will be squeezed, and maybe wiped out, if things in the patch get real bad and stay that way.

29 posted on 01/17/2015 7:39:55 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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i’m getting tired of the low prices hurt us crowd. artificially high prices on anything to support someones well being is welfare period


30 posted on 01/17/2015 7:44:30 AM PST by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: Texas Eagle
Tough noogies for those in retirement.

True that, but there is hope for a recovery, or at least something back on the investment.

I know folks who put their money into something safe and secure, until Obama stole them blind, They were GM bondholders.

31 posted on 01/17/2015 7:44:39 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Truckers and ordinary consumers will certainly benefit from lower gas prices.

Ordinary consumers yes....but truckers need loads to deliver.

32 posted on 01/17/2015 7:47:01 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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Falling oil’s next victim: banks
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/16/investing/oil-price-fall-banks-hurt/

...Cheap credit helped fuel the U.S. shale boom, allowing countless energy companies to find oil in new places. Banks also capitalized on economic booms in oil-rich regions like Texas and North Dakota. It would only make sense for these same banks to feel some pain from oil’s downward spiral.

Drilling projects that made sense at $100 may now be losing money, creating headaches for the lenders that financed the expansions. Some highly-leveraged shale companies may even go belly up due to the plunge in oil prices....

Even Wall Street banks are facing questions about the impact of falling oil prices.

While just a small fraction of their total loan portfolio is directly tied to energy lending, Bove estimates around 20% of their investment banking revenue comes from energy....


33 posted on 01/17/2015 7:47:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Gloom. Despair. Agony.
How? Oh how did Caterpillar manage to survive 89+ years, even when oil dropped to as low as $9.00 a barrel back in the 1980s and oil producers were capping pumping wells? How?
Oh the humanity!


34 posted on 01/17/2015 7:48:07 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan by the day)
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Gloom. Despair. Agony.

You want to point to the words I wrote that claim that? This isn't the end of any indirect industry, or even the oil industry itself.

My point it, it is not going to lead to a booming economy any more than it did the several times it happened in the past.

35 posted on 01/17/2015 7:50:39 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yup, more dozing per gallon!


36 posted on 01/17/2015 7:51:36 AM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Tupelo

The media wants us to think low energy prices are a bad thing, lol.


37 posted on 01/17/2015 7:51:54 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Texas Eagle

Well, we just got a fuel oil delivery today. Price per gallon about $2.60. Checked a bill from last year, $4.00 per gallon. The tank took 160 gallons. So we have $160.00
more to spend on something else (or save or pay other bills).


38 posted on 01/17/2015 7:52:18 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Tupelo

Gasoline prices won’t stay low forever. It’s interesting that the price of oil suddenly goes way down when they started talking seriously about lifting the oil export ban. I think the Saudis are messing with us.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-export-myths-1421451968


39 posted on 01/17/2015 8:03:32 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Texas Eagle

I am waiting for food and airline prices to drop. They are so quick to raise prices on these two industries but very slow to lower prices when they should. CEOs continue to get millions in bonus’ of course.


40 posted on 01/17/2015 8:04:46 AM PST by napscoordinator
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