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Pennsylvania couple fighting to save $160,000 collection of rare wine after it was seized under
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 23, 2014 | Pete D'Amato

Posted on 12/23/2014 6:00:02 AM PST by C19fan

Pennsylvania state police were tied up for months in a sting operation that ended with a 20-hour raid in early January. As law professor Baylen Linnekin writes in Reason, the target wasn't illegal narcotics but a cellar full of rare and expensive bottles of wine. 2,447 bottles, to be exact. They are worth more than $160,000. Officers seized the bottles from the Malvern home of attorneys Arthur Goldman and Melissa Kurtzman, and state they are now planning to destroy the collection. The state's strict liquor laws led law enforcement to Goldman, who insists he was not looking to sell off his collection and that the bottles were only for his private consumption.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: alcohol; crony; wine
How much money did the state of PA spend raiding this wine collection? Another example of the capriciousness of the modern administrative state where the ordinary person could be violating three felonies a day. From what I understand PA has the worse laws around the distribution and sale of alcohol. This is saying something as the Northeast is famous for its byzantine liquor laws. The one good thing about living out West was you could buy anything you want from beer to hard liquor at the supermarket or Costco.
1 posted on 12/23/2014 6:00:02 AM PST by C19fan
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The state bureaucrats are going to destroy this fine collection... one bottle at a time...


2 posted on 12/23/2014 6:03:22 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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You can be sure that state knows and cares nothing about the ‘proper storage’ of valuable wine. Before any legal matter is finished the bottles will be worthless.
Thank you Big Brother. Govt is best at destroying value, livelihoods, lives, and families.


3 posted on 12/23/2014 6:05:01 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Haiku Guy

I don’t know about PA, but I cannot ship wines direct from California wineries to my house. If I want to buy wine on one of my trips to California, I have to carry it back on the plane as luggage.


4 posted on 12/23/2014 6:08:00 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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From what I understand PA has the worse laws around the distribution and sale of alcohol.

Article reads like the lawyer was in fact breaking the law but I'd guess these are the types of laws most Pennsylvanians didn't even know existed.

5 posted on 12/23/2014 6:09:10 AM PST by Drew68
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PA has the worse laws around the distribution and sale of alcohol

PA does. The Commonwealth controls alcohol distribution. Wine and liquor are sold at State Stores (renamed to Wine & Spirit stores) run by over paid State employees that have incredible health care benefits and pensions. A great place to be a cashier.

Liquor licenses are impossible to get for mom & pop restaurants. Just about every aspect of alcohol is control by fascists.

Even after four years of Republican control of the legislature, the governorship, and 80% of the public supporting privatization, they couldn't privatize State Stores. F'n RINOs.

6 posted on 12/23/2014 6:09:47 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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Trust me, if you are a wine drinker who lives in Pennsylvania, you know about Pennsylvania’s ridiculous laws regarding wine.

The unionized State Store must get their cut.


7 posted on 12/23/2014 6:13:52 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: C19fan

Contemporary Americans have grown contemptuous of LIBERTY. They will pay a heavy price.


8 posted on 12/23/2014 6:14:37 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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Goldman entered a first-offender program for the charges of buying alcohol outside the state system and selling liquor without a license, and now must complete two years probation and 300 hours of community service.

I can't imagine this supports his argument very well.

9 posted on 12/23/2014 6:18:24 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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Sounds like both are lawyers. Very well could be one of them crossed paths with and PO’ed the wrong state bureaucrat.


10 posted on 12/23/2014 6:19:17 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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That’s only about 65 dollars a bottle not very rare or that expensive compared to some.


11 posted on 12/23/2014 6:22:43 AM PST by riverrunner
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“From what I understand PA has the worse laws around the distribution and sale of alcohol. “

I lived in MA for 3 years. They weren’t allowed to sell beer in the bowling alleys but you bring your own in and drink it!


12 posted on 12/23/2014 6:28:32 AM PST by jimmyo57
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Yep...exactly. They must have crappy cars, because if they had nice ones they would “confiscate” them too!


13 posted on 12/23/2014 6:29:41 AM PST by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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At $65 a bottle, it is probably a significant upgrade from the box wine the property clerk drinks on a daily basis.


14 posted on 12/23/2014 6:33:51 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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We have become the old USSR in many ways.


15 posted on 12/23/2014 6:40:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Sounds like Virginia


16 posted on 12/23/2014 7:24:01 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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Another example of the capriciousness of the modern administrative state where the ordinary person could be violating three felonies a day.

Three Felonies a Day

From the book:

At the federal prosecutor’s office in the Southern District of New York, the staff, over beer and pretzels, used to play a darkly humorous game. Junior and senior prosecutors would sit around, and someone would name a random celebrity—say, Mother Theresa or John Lennon. It would then be up to the junior prosecutors to figure out a plau- sible crime for which to indict him or her. The crimes were not usually rape, murder, or other crimes you’d see on Law & Order but rather the incredibly broad yet obscure crimes that populate the U.S. Code like a kind of jurisprudential minefield: Crimes like “false statements” (a felony, up to five years), “obstructing the mails” (five years), or “false pretenses on the high seas” (also five years). The trick and the skill lay in finding the more obscure offenses that fit the character of the celebrity and carried the toughest sen- tences. The result, however, was inevitable: “prison time,” as one former prosecutor told me.

17 posted on 12/23/2014 7:34:57 AM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: ClayinVA

At least one can buy wine from the supermarket in VA.


18 posted on 12/23/2014 7:39:46 AM PST by C19fan
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avoid any state that has commonwealth in it’s name.


19 posted on 12/23/2014 8:31:24 AM PST by old gringo
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You can now buy beer and wine at the grocery store but there are limits. Pennsylvania government is horrible.


20 posted on 12/23/2014 11:26:03 AM PST by huldah1776
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