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Your “Children Will Be Fined” If You Fail To Sign Up For Obamacare
http://www.shtfplan.com ^ | Nov 14, 2014 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 11/16/2014 2:29:40 PM PST by Whenifhow

Free and affordable health care just gets better and better.

In 2015 the government will be activating some new “incentives” embedded in the Affordable Care Act in an effort to get more people to sign up.

But, as is often the case when the government says one thing, they mean exactly the opposite. In this case, when they say incentive what they really mean is that you are going to be penalized if you fail to acquire government mandated health insurance. But not just you. Your children, who apparently no longer belong to you anyway based on a recent court ruling, will be fined for your failure to get them on the insurance rolls:

Penalties for failing to secure a health-insurance plan will rise steeply next year, which could take a big bite out of some families’ pocketbooks.

“The penalty is meant to incentivize people to get coverage,” said senior analyst Laura Adams of InsuranceQuotes.com. “This year, I think a lot of people are going to be in for a shock.”

In 2014, Obamacare’s first year, individuals are facing a penalty of $95 per person, or 1 percent of their income, depending on which is higher. If an American failed to get coverage this year, that penalty will be taken out of their tax refund in early 2015, Adams noted.

While that might be painful to some uninsured Americans who are counting on their tax refunds in early 2015, the penalty for going uninsured next year is even harsher. The financial penalty for skipping out on health coverage will more than triple to $325 per person in 2015, or 2 percent of income, depending on whichever is higher.

Children will be fined at half the adult rate, or $162.50 for those under 18 years old.

Source: CBS News

So, that’s your incentive. Either sign up for Obamacare at a rate of roughly $750 a month or more for a middle-class family of four, or pay a $325 penalty or two percent of your income, whichever is higher. Plus, if you have kids, they’ve been incentivized too!

Moreover, if you fail to sign up for Obamacare and subsequently refuse to pay your penalty your house will be raided by armed IRS agents, seized by the government, and you’ll be imprisoned for tax evation.

Welcome to the new America, where the government now has the power to compel you to purchase products from private companies under the threat of imprisonment or death. Yes, death. Because if you run from those armed IRS agents they’re going to use their brand new militarized AR-15′s to ensure your compliance.

At this point the only chance Americans have for the complete destruction of the Affordable Care Act is for a Supreme Court ruling expected in the Spring of 2015. If the court rules against Obamacare over its illegal federal subsidies then the law could fall apart almost instantly.

These days, even democrats who supported the legislation before anyone had a chance to actually review it are up in arms. It seems many have finally realized that free health care isn’t actually, well, free.

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.

“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

Source: Democrat Voters Confused via Mercury News

Suckers, the whole lot of them. Unfortunately, they supported legislative action that will eventually unravel the entire economic fabric of the United States of America unless it is repealed or overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gruber; grubergate; gruberingamerica; gruberingforobama; obamacare; penalty; tax
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Your “Children Will Be Fined” If You Fail To Sign Up For Obamacare: People Are Going To Be In for A Shock

1 posted on 11/16/2014 2:29:40 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

And if the parent does not work and the kids are age 21, 23, 25 and all live on their own???? Then what?


2 posted on 11/16/2014 2:32:10 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Whenifhow

“It’s for the children.”


3 posted on 11/16/2014 2:32:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Whenifhow

Head taxes are illegal. Compulsion to contract is illegal.


4 posted on 11/16/2014 2:32:56 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Whenifhow

It will go on your Permanent Record, citizen....


5 posted on 11/16/2014 2:33:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: hsmomx3

And if the parent does not work and the kids are age 21, 23, 25 and all live on their own???? Then what?
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Apparently this “fine” applies to those under the age of 18. So you are right - there is a discrepancy since Obamacare let’s those kids 26 and under on Obamacare.

Certainly they have made a rule or regulation regarding this, but it isn’t in the article.

From the article:
“Children will be fined at half the adult rate, or $162.50 for those under 18 years old.”


6 posted on 11/16/2014 2:36:13 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

WEll, our children will be very busy paying back the $20 trillion this group of grifters, GOP included, have racked up, not to mention the avg $o K college debt those friends of academia, the education dept and their loan granting/tuition-setting activities are busy foisting on our innocent children, who, BTW, will not have medical care after this mess, and they can just have a lot of luck fending off the Chinese, after this abortion/birth control-happy group has killed off 54 million americans

How do these people think they’ll come off in history?, bunch of abortionists.


7 posted on 11/16/2014 2:38:21 PM PST by stanne ( E)
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To: Whenifhow

The fine is a tax thanks to Roberts. So any American who refuses to comply can face tax evasion charges.

Isnt that nice? While Obama is rushing to help illegal aliens he’s making Americans criminals.


8 posted on 11/16/2014 2:39:02 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Whenifhow

So if I am not libel for taxes but have to pay for not
joining, is it a tax or is it onerous coercion?


9 posted on 11/16/2014 2:40:45 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Ray76
The Constitution prevents "corruption of blood" in the Treason clause. I wonder if a Justice could find a penumbra emanating from this to extend this to include preventing children from being liable for the crimes of their parents in general?

-PJ

10 posted on 11/16/2014 2:40:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Whenifhow
“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

Words fail me. Just who did she think was going to have to pay for it?

11 posted on 11/16/2014 2:41:08 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Whenifhow

Crazier ands crazier.


12 posted on 11/16/2014 2:41:11 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Whenifhow

Beatings will continue until morale improves.


13 posted on 11/16/2014 2:41:13 PM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Whenifhow

Exemptions from the payment
You may qualify for an exemption from the penalty for not being insured if:

You’re uninsured for less than 3 months of the year
The lowest-priced coverage available to you would cost more than 8% of your household income
You don’t have to file a tax return because your income is too low (Learn about the filing limit (PDF)
You’re a member of a federally recognized tribe or eligible for services through an Indian Health Services provider
You’re a member of a recognized health care sharing ministry
You’re a member of a recognized religious sect with religious objections to insurance, including Social Security and Medicare
You’re incarcerated (either detained or jailed), and not being held pending disposition of charges
You’re not lawfully present in the U.S.
You qualify for a hardship exemption


14 posted on 11/16/2014 2:42:16 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Whenifhow

It incentivizes alright! It incentivizes us to all come down hard on the new GOP majority to get this piece of work repealed. I don’t care what color the man’s skin is he must be sent packing.

IMPEACH the lyin’ King!


15 posted on 11/16/2014 2:42:50 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Whenifhow

Ja wohl, mein Führer!


16 posted on 11/16/2014 2:42:56 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Whenifhow
In 2014, Obamacare’s first year, individuals are facing a penalty of $95 per person, or 1 percent of their income, depending on which is higher.

OK. You have $50,000 taxable income. You overpayed a bit just to be safe and you calculate that you should get back about $500. Good enough for you and the wifey to take a three-day to Vegas. A little sun. A little fun.

Oops. You forgot about that 1% Obamacare Tax. That refund you were counting on is not $500 it is $Zero. No Vegas. No sun. No fun.

The Good News: This is only 2014. Next year the penalty will double to $1000. No Vegas. No Christmas.

I have to bet that the Dems are, deep down inside, praying that the Supremes kill this thing dead before we reach 2016 and they have to face the voting public again.

Another bonus - quoting from the article:

"Moreover, if you fail to sign up for Obamacare and subsequently refuse to pay your penalty your house will be raided by armed IRS agents, seized by the government, and you’ll be imprisoned for tax evation."

17 posted on 11/16/2014 2:43:04 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Whenifhow
Free cap for all Obama voters


18 posted on 11/16/2014 2:44:33 PM PST by JPG (The GOPe will always find a way to surrender)
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To: Whenifhow

Obama has what he always wanted , All American’s under Total Government Control


19 posted on 11/16/2014 2:46:09 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Whenifhow

Being that Repubs control the House and Senate can’t they repeal this Obamination?


20 posted on 11/16/2014 2:48:32 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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