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The lies that are central to Obama’s agenda
The New York Post ^ | November 16, 2014 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 11/16/2014 1:22:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Damn Americans. They just don’t see the wisdom of surrendering to experts the power they need to remake the country into a progressive paradise.

Sighing with regret, liberals like Jonathan Gruber admit that they’re forced to hoodwink the citizens. For their own good.

Gruber, the MIT economist who (in the words of The New York Times) “put together the basic principles of” ObamaCare and helped Congress “draft the specifics of the legislation” is one of a long line of liberals driven by the belief that the stupidity of the American people is so insurmountable that persuasion is futile. Liberalism: the place where compassion blurs into condescension.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass,” Gruber said, in a newly unearthed 2013 video that went viral last week.

Gruber’s jocular tone wasn’t surprising. In explaining why a huge tax increase was disguised to conceal it from the American people, he was admitting what was obvious to close observers: The law is really just a redistribution scheme. Even the Democrats didn’t think ObamaCare could pass by being so described.

That’s why deception, as Gruber says, was central to its design.

Profiting from deceit.............

.....Telling the American people something you know to be false — if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what — is lying.

Defenders scrambling to defend the administration’s lies are beclowning themselves.

“ ‘Stupidity’ is unfair. Ignorance is a more accurate term,” wrote Jonathan Chait in New York magazine.

To the charge that ObamaCare was crafted in a deliberately deceptive way, Chait replies that Gruber is talking about something totally different:......

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aca; administrativelies; california; jonathangruber; kylesmith; nancypelosi; newyorkpost; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 11/16/2014 1:22:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Except Gruber got it wrong: The people weren’t actually fooled. Most Americans are not wonks. They simply suspected that the law was too good to be true.

Obviously false. Otherwise, Mittens would be President.

Fact is, as Herr Gruber has noted, most Americans are low-information pukes. Low-information because they are lazy. Pukes because, despite being without a clue, they still manage to show up to vote!

2 posted on 11/16/2014 1:32:24 AM PST by cynwoody
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3 posted on 11/16/2014 1:49:03 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What would happen if a car salesman sold you a car under these conditions?


4 posted on 11/16/2014 1:55:29 AM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: cynwoody

Eh, of COURSE we should have elected Romney. But that doesn’t mean we love Obamacare. It’s also worth remembering that Romney had the skeleton of Romenycare in his closet and who wrote that? Why the self-same Herr Gruber.

But my current impression is that Mass was pretty happy with Romenycare, and now Obamacare has messed it all up for them.


5 posted on 11/16/2014 3:05:30 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is important that everyone keep in mind that the way Obamacare was passed in Congress is the SOP for Liberalism. Deliberately deceive and lie. Pursue Fabian Socialism while claiming you’re not. Denigrate legitimate questions. Create class envy and hate. And imply racism towards anyone who has the nerve to point out that the policies and plans do not add up.


6 posted on 11/16/2014 3:09:44 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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David Horowitz, June 2000: “...........The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity—often without even realizing that they are. Because they also lie to themselves. It is the political lie that gives their cause its life.

Why, for example, if you were one of them, would you tell the truth? If you were serious about your role in humanity’s vanguard, if you had the knowledge (which others did not), that you were certain would lead them to a better world, why would you tell them a truth that they could not “understand” and that would hold them back?

If others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite, whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the promised horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the vanguard of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a social redeemer. To feel anointed. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in their wake. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than all the injustices they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes.” That is why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.

If you were active in the so-called “peace” movement or in the radical wing of the civil rights causes, why would you tell the truth? Why would you tell people that no, you weren’t really a “peace activist,” except in the sense that you were against America’s war. Why would you draw attention to the fact that while you called yourselves “peace activists,” you didn’t oppose the Communists’ war, and were gratified when America’s enemies won?

What you were really against was not war at all, but American “imperialism” and American capitalism. What you truly hated was America’s democracy, which you knew to be a “sham” because it was controlled by money in the end. That’s why you wanted to “Bring the Troops Home,” as your slogan said. Because if America’s troops came home, America would lose and the Communists would win. And the progressive future would be one step closer...........”

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=24376


7 posted on 11/16/2014 3:36:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The only question! Laws for them and laws for us, if it were anyone of us we would be in jail why are they not?


8 posted on 11/16/2014 3:43:32 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Vote for a Democrat regime and you get one that is run by adolescent, psychotic, adulthood-evading punks.

IMHO


9 posted on 11/16/2014 4:50:12 AM PST by ripley
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Defenders scrambling to defend the administration’s lies are beclowning themselves.


10 posted on 11/16/2014 4:56:29 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually, I think Gruber is telling us .. HOW DARE YOU BE SMART ENOUGH TO CATCH ON TO WHAT WE’RE DOING ..!!!!

The 5th video was the most revealing. The letter exposing what they were doing was greeted by roars of laughter. And, added with the comment about it being written by his children .. told me they were all shocked that somebody had figured out what they were really doing.


11 posted on 11/16/2014 4:57:43 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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“Obviously false. Otherwise, Mittens would be President.”

The media got O’bastard elected by refusing to report the truth, and screaming that everything on Fox news is a lie.

The fact is that the majority of Americans still get ALL their news off network TV and newspapers. They never get the truth about anything! If Fox News were ever to become available on over-the-air network TV the demonrats are finished as a political party.


12 posted on 11/16/2014 5:27:14 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: CyberAnt

The most damning video is the one that explains that in the end all employer provided health insurance is going to be taxed like regular income!

He said the stupid unions will scream, buy by the time that kicks in it will be too late to change it.

That is the video that should be run on a continuous loop 24/7, because that is the one that sticks it to the demonrat voter base!


13 posted on 11/16/2014 5:34:51 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Defenders scrambling to defend the administration’s lies are beclowning themselves.


14 posted on 11/16/2014 5:58:28 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage

Lying and deception has always been a huge advantage.

15 posted on 11/16/2014 5:59:50 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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16 posted on 11/16/2014 6:03:35 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Beagle8U

Sadly, the penalty to the unions will be passed on to the employees in union dues. Unions are not for the workers anymore; they’re really a way to get funds to the democrats.

And .. speaking of unions, when is the public going to get smart enough to GET UNIONS OUT OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR ..???

Private companies can deal with unions according to what their corporate principals are, but these public unions take wages from employees and give it all to the democrats.

NO WONDER GOVT WORKERS NEVER GET FIRED.


17 posted on 11/16/2014 6:13:47 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: CyberAnt

We need to ban public sector unions, and pass a national RTW law.


18 posted on 11/16/2014 8:02:49 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Beagle8U

Exactly ..!!!!!!

Gov Walker “de-certified” the public sector unions in Wisconsin - as far as public sector goes.

That’s part of the reason the state is doing so well.

But, nobody in DC has the guts to do it .. otherwise where would all the dems get all their perks ..??


19 posted on 11/16/2014 8:35:55 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Stupidity and ignorance are the best tools the democrats have when they fail use fear works every time.
Never smarten up a chump or a chimp.


20 posted on 11/16/2014 8:40:49 AM PST by Vaduz
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