"After me and Zeke polish our penny loafers,
we're gong shopping at Bed, Bath and Beyond."
Posted on 11/11/2014 5:17:24 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass."
That was MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the key architects of ObamaCare, explaining how ObamaCare was purposefully designed to obfuscate how it was financed, how the subsidies worked and other unpleasant features of the law. [snip]
Gruber's comments, made at a 2013 conference but just now making the rounds on the Internet, are the polar opposite of what Democrats promised the public.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
Fraud before Congress and the American people.
Fraud is apparently A-OK for the MIT Economics faculty
who should have to wear warning lablels.
Traitor Roberts is a fraud too.
MIT must be very proud of Professor Gruber.
This will do wonders for promoting their new “Doctor of Phraud” program.
At what point do Americans say...enough?
"After me and Zeke polish our penny loafers,
we're gong shopping at Bed, Bath and Beyond."
The law was a fraud.
On that basis alone it should be struck down.
WIKI—Jonathan Holmes Gruber is a professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he has taught since 1992. He is also the director of the Health Care Program at the National Bureau of Economic Research, where he is a research associate. He is an associate editor of both the Journal of Public Economics and the Journal of Health Economics. In 2009 he was elected to the Executive Committee of the American Economic Association.
Gruber began his career as an assistant professor of economics at MIT.[2] Currently, he is a professor of economics at MIT. He is also a research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research.
Gruber’s research has focused on public finance and health economics. He has published more than 140 research articles, and has edited six research volumes. He is a co-editor of the Journal of Public Economics, an associate editor of the Journal of Health Economics, and the author of Public Finance and Public Policy.[3] and Health Care Reform, a graphic novel delineating the Affordable Care Act.
During the 1997–1998 academic year, Gruber was on leave as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy at the Treasury Department. From 2003–06 he was a key architect of Massachusetts’ healthcare reform. In 2006 he became an inaugural member of the Health Connector Board, the main implementing body for that effort. In that year, he was named the 19th most powerful person in health care in the United States by Modern Healthcare magazine. During the 2008 election he was a consultant to the Clinton, Edwards and Obama presidential campaigns.
In 2009–10 Gruber served as a technical consultant to the Obama Administration and worked with both the administration and Congress to help craft the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, often referred to as the ACA or “Obamacare”.[4] The act was signed into law in March 2010, and Gruber has been described as an “architect”, “writer”, and “consultant” of the legislation. He was widely interviewed and quoted during the roll-out of the legislation.
<><><>In January 2010, after news emerged that Gruber was under a $297,000 contract with the Department of Health and Human Services, while at the same time promoting the Obama administration’s health care reform policies, some conservative commentators suggested a conflict of interest.
While he did disclose his HHS connections in an article for the New England Journal of Medicine, his oversight in doing this earlier was defended in the New York Times .<><><>
One heavily-scrutinized part of the ACA reads that subsidies should be given to healthcare recipients who are enrolled “through an Exchange established by the State”. Some have read this to mean that subsidies can be given only in states that have chosen to create their own healthcare exchanges, and do not use the federal exchange, while the Obama administration says that the wording applies to all states.
This dispute is currently part of an ongoing series of lawsuits referred to collectively as King v. Burwell. In July 2014, two separate recordings of Gruber, both from January 2012, surfaced in which he seemed to contradict the administration’s position.
In one, Gruber states, in response to an audience question, that “if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits”,[14] while in the other he says, “if your governor doesn’t set up an exchange, you’re losing hundreds of millions of dollars of tax credits to be delivered to your citizens.”[15] When these recordings emerged, Gruber called these statements mistaken, describing them as “just a speak-o — you know, like a typo”.
<><><> In a panel discussion about health care at the University of Pennsylvania in October 2013, Gruber stated that the ACA was deliberately written “in a tortured way” to disguise the fact that it created a system in which “healthy people pay in and sick people get money”. He stated that this obfuscation was necessary, due to “the stupidity of the American voter or whatever”, in order to get the bill passed.[16] His comments caused controversy after a video of them was placed on YouTube in November 2014.<><><>
On February 15, 2006, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities published an article by Gruber entitled “The Cost and Coverage Impact of the President’s Health Insurance Budget Proposals.”
In a December 4, 2008 New York Times op-ed, “Medicine for the Job Market”, he claimed that expanding health insurance, even in difficult financial times would stimulate the economy.
On February 9, 2011, the Center for American Progress published an article by Gruber titled “Health Care Reform Without the Individual Mandate,” analyzing the health insurance coverage impacts of alternative policy options for encouraging purchase of health insurance under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, including the mandate, a late penalty, and auto-enrollment.
He has published over 100 research articles. In 2006, Gruber received the American Society of Health Economists Inaugural Medal for the best health economist in the nation aged 40 and under.[22] He was elected a member of the Institute of Medicine in 2005.[23] In 2011 he was named “One of the Top 25 Most Innovative and Practical Thinkers of Our Time” by Slate Magazine. In both 2006 and 2012 he was rated as one of the top 100 most powerful people in health care in the United States by Modern Healthcare Magazine.
Actually, MIT should be ashamed to further associate with Gruber.
What if MIT started receiving inquiries about their new Phd program, “Doctor of Phraud”?
Alinsky on.
I just finished filling out paperwork for my new job. I waived all health care benefits. Not worth it.
This needs to be repeated until even American Pravda (ABCNNBCBSNYTLATWP) are forced to cover it.
“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure (the Congressional Budget Office) did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. OK? So it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money – it would not have passed. … Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass. … Look, I wish (health economist) Mark (Pauly) was right (that) we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”
Obamacare architecht Jonathan Gruber
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PERSONS AND AGENCIES OF INTEREST TO L/E:
<><> The US Dept of HHS
<><> Dr Jonathan Gruber--recipient of HHS grant
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CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN/SENATORS Taxpayers demand the Bank Secrecy Act be mobilized at once.
The Bank Secrecy Act passed by Congress, requires banks to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity indicative of money laundering, govt fraud, and other financial crimes.
The Bank Secrecy Act was enacted to protect the tax-paying public from harm by identifying and detecting money laundering from criminal enterprises, govt fraud, tax evasion, and other unlawful activities.
Taxpayers demand that persons/agencies of interest listed above be scrutinized: (1) copies of checks, (2) wire transfers, (3) bank account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, employment contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other govt books or records. Scrutinize govt bank accounts for suspicious activities: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) request for withdrawals.
CONTACT
enforcement@SEC.gov
FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov/
SAMPLE LETTER:
SUBJECT: Collusion, conspiracy, and bribery
IN RE: financial irregularities
REFERENCE: govt fraud, ID theft, bank fraud, falsified govt documents, illegal wire transfers,
NARRATIVE Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of multiple conspiracies by government insiders to collude in sub rosa deals to personally profit and/or to facilitate redistribution schemes.
OF INTEREST TO LAW ENFORCEMENTCongress should demand the FBI investigate evidence of multiple schemes to falsify govt documents.......and whether illegal wire transfers were employed to deposit govt monies offshore.
Crimes might include---govt fraud, financial conspiracies, collusion, falsifying official documents, ID theft, money laundering, illegal wire transfers, tax evasion, extorting taxpayers, theft of govt monies, misuse of public office, misuse of government monies.
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Ask your Congressman for a copy of the HHS grant to Gruber---govt grants are explicitly detailed in the Congressional Record as to their use.
Here is Jonathan Gruber, contradicting himself on the Halbig (subsidies for ObamaCare enrollees) decision.
It begins with a clip of him lying on the Chris Matthews show Hardball.
Next there are clips with Gruber lecturing, this time using the truth, at a conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbD5iQQS5KA
It’s a minute thirty seconds.
Here is much more detailed information and an audio link of him saying the same thing at a different meeting:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118851/jonathan-gruber-halbig-says-quote-exchanges-was-mistake
This clip came out yesterday.
November 10th should be Joe Wilson Day.
Under oath?
Bump
Thanks for the link/info.
Under Oath?
Why would it matter?
Cummings and Issa LOVE to encourage lying to Congress.
Love to.
And Holder’s DO”J” is LIE2CONGRESS central.
The EXEMPT Bastards in Congress have set up a two tiered
system with them EXEMPT, and they could not care less.
Obama thought: Cheap at twice the price to destroy the American health care system and enslave my subjects.
Goober = ObamaCare
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