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The Ultimate Ebola Test
Townhall.com ^ | October 25, 2014 | Charles Payne

Posted on 10/25/2014 9:41:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

I spoke to the neighbor of the NYC Ebola doctor (turned patient) a couple of times, last night. Her fears are less about contracting the disease than having her family's names and photos splashed over the media, particularly those of her 16 year old daughter who is very talented, outgoing, and attends a high profile high school. The media has been unrelenting, but for the most part all promised not to mention her or her daughter’s names.

One network is struggling, and say even without permission, they'll display a blurred photo of her daughter with her name. In this day and age, it could lead to near-term disaster.

There have been questionable actions on the part of authorities that have not gained the confidence of people in the building.

On that note, I grew up two blocks from the building the Ebola patient lives in, and I've been in that building a lot, although not this year. Like most New Yorkers, the people there are used to toughing it out, especially those there before gentrification began over the past decade. In many ways, this is the moment of truth to speak that had to happen: Ebola comes to the big city. We've seen the movie, or television show script for years; it’s supposed to spread like wildfire.

The thing is the disease didn't spread like wildfire in Dallas, but this is a larger stage and the perfect moment of truth. I will say, if there is no spread of the disease, it will not be because the authorities did everything right – protocols still need to evolve just from mistakes made in the first few hours of the New York patient. New Yorkers are tough but not dumb, and when obvious mistakes are made, they get upset, not afraid.

So, I can say the neighbor that shares the same common wall with the NYC Ebola patient is more afraid about her daughter potentially being mistreated at school than about contracting the disease. In the meantime, this patient was totally inconsiderate, which is shocking since helping people is the hallmark of Doctors Without Borders.

On one hand, willing to risk their his own life to help people in impoverished nations is admirable, but to then come to NYC knowing he was high-risk and still meandering around town, riding the subway, going bowling and hanging out in general, is irresponsible and unethical.

Markets & Emotions

On a normal day, in America, people are mostly worried about paying rent, putting children through college or wondering if they'll ever get to stop working. So why is it that with the stock market, which is supposed to mirror society, things we aren't normally worried about day-to-day, can wreck our psyches and our fortunes?

Consider this week, Ebola finally cracked the list of "most important problems facing the country” yesterday with 5% of the vote.

For weeks, when ISIS was on the march, it captured the attention of the market sending it down quickly, but only 1% worried about these savages in August, 3% last month, and only 5% give it top ranking now. And Wednesday, what appeared to be an act of terror rattled the market, but when the opening bell rang terror, only 3% of Americans felt it was the most important problem facing the country."

I've watched equity futures since the Ebola news broke in NYC and they've gotten better, but are still in the red. The financial media, which I called out last Thursday, is walking a tighter rope – the fear guys that hate the rally are chomping at the bit to derail this thing once and for all, but know the microscope is greater now, and their fiduciary responsibility as journalists and "experts" that can move markets will be scrutinized.

Of course, this is a huge story and if the disease caused Americans to stay home, it would be a giant financial story. There are a lot of things people ask themselves that seem like common sense questions, however I'm not sure it’s unusual for an Ebola patient to have their body temperature go to 103 from 99 overnight. This isn't the common cold or flu.

We have to play this day by day, though like a bull market that runs into trouble, it's the only way to be sure that this is the moment of truth on the biggest stage in America. If it doesn't spread, then the disease is hard to contract and people that live in the Bronx, Queens, Staten Island, Pennsylvania and other parts of the nation don't need to stay home out of fear. It will be touch-and-go for a few days as we have a fresh 21-day clock, so there will be headline risks.

The key for the market (and those that help investors in the market) is to let the headlines be actual news rather than another reason to hate the rally or gain television ratings.

For now, pray not only for the safety of those that live near the doctor or might have come in contact with him in a dangerous way, but for their health and hope they can escape without the disease or some kind of label that actually hurts their lives more, even if the disease is contained.


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1 posted on 10/25/2014 9:41:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/top-ebola-scientists-ebola-more-likely-be-spread-aerosol-cold-dry-conditions-hot-hum

Colder dry climates more prone to Ebola spread than Wet Humid Africa according to Scientists.


2 posted on 10/25/2014 9:54:28 AM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: Kaslin

No mention of the 150 potentially infected people coming in every day.


3 posted on 10/25/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Kackikat

It’s true that aerosol spread was limited by warmth (not humidity). But while colder is better for Ebola, drier is not. It will do best on surfaces that are cold and damp (39F and moist). That is the biggest concern here, not aerosol spread.


4 posted on 10/25/2014 9:58:14 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

Why not read the scientific discovery link instead of winging it.


5 posted on 10/25/2014 9:58:48 AM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: Kackikat

For every reason except actual epidemiology? Shouldn’t it be scooting across the continent to the more temperate areas then?

This sounds like a very ill understood illness to date. It seems to do (and refrain from doing) things that nobody expects.

Here’s a theory from my beady little brain: in order to get a fatal or pronounced case, a dual or multiple infection is needed, with the other agent(s) still unidentified.


6 posted on 10/25/2014 9:59:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kackikat

If the quote is valid, don’t cavil about the method.


7 posted on 10/25/2014 10:00:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; palmer

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/top-ebola-scientists-ebola-more-likely-be-spread-aerosol-cold-dry-conditions-hot-hum


8 posted on 10/25/2014 10:01:56 AM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: Kaslin
The thing is the disease didn't spread like wildfire in Dallas, but this is a larger stage and the perfect moment of truth.

It hasn't even spread like wildfire in Monrovia, Liberia, which is densely populated and is the current center of the outbreak.

On one hand, willing to risk their his own life to help people in impoverished nations is admirable, but to then come to NYC knowing he was high-risk and still meandering around town, riding the subway, going bowling and hanging out in general, is irresponsible and unethical.

Why? Ebola is not contagious until symptoms appear, and is only really contagious when the symptoms are severe.

There are a lot of things people ask themselves that seem like common sense questions, however I'm not sure it’s unusual for an Ebola patient to have their body temperature go to 103 from 99 overnight. This isn't the common cold or flu.

Many diseases, including the flu, can cause a rapid rise in temperature. The flu can kill in two days--it is not a benign disease, but since everyone is familiar with it, no one is scared of it.

9 posted on 10/25/2014 10:05:03 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kackikat

This is a blog by one “George Washington.” Can you trace back to a reputable publication please.


10 posted on 10/25/2014 10:06:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

This is one of the most disjointed articles I’ve ever read.

He’s all over the place, from the neighbor to the stock market to Pennsylvania!

I’m pretty sure Ebola will break out in Jersey before it hits PA.

New Jersey, the forgotten state {sigh}.


11 posted on 10/25/2014 10:07:38 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: exDemMom

And that 103 degree fever never happened, I’ve read.

His fever was 100.3, not 103, the 103 was an error in early reporting.


12 posted on 10/25/2014 10:12:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Ahh, but now the 103 number is out there in the public consciousness, facts be damned.


13 posted on 10/25/2014 10:21:39 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Kaslin
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14 posted on 10/25/2014 10:26:23 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Kackikat

I read the 1995 paper they linked. They refer to a 1967 paper (before the discovery of Ebola) to support lower RH virus stability. They also refer to two other papers about the stability of hemorrhagic viruses at less than 40% RH that are using the exact same data from Reston. The Reston data is interesting but with the cages 20 cm apart it is not that impressive.


15 posted on 10/25/2014 10:43:17 AM PDT by palmer (Thank you for your patience.)
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To: Kaslin
I spoke to the neighbor of the NYC Ebola doctor (turned patient) a couple of times, last night. Her fears are less about contracting the disease than having her family's names and photos splashed over the media, particularly those of her 16 year old daughter

Mama is an idiot. If she doesn't want her name in the paper then shut up and don't talk to the msm. How simple is that?

The author needs to take Journalism 101.

16 posted on 10/25/2014 10:55:54 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Kaslin; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

17 posted on 10/25/2014 10:58:52 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: palmer

I’m not sure what I believe about how it’s spread. But what I do know for sure is not to trust anything this government tells me. Recall their politicized science on how AIDS was spread? (You’re more susceptible if you’re Haitian.)

Also recall that a few days ago they were telling us that we couldn’t catch it by sitting next to someone on the bus, and at the same time they were telling us not to ride the bus if we had been exposed.


18 posted on 10/25/2014 2:16:01 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Zero Hedge is a reputable ,conservative site for information. There are places that information in the article was published, so don’t be lazy do the research.

As for George Washington, many people have famous names due to their parents sense of humor or misguided patriotism.


19 posted on 10/25/2014 3:13:40 PM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: Kackikat

Oh so _I_ am the one accused of laziness? Not the one with the assertions?


20 posted on 10/25/2014 3:14:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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