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FBI Head: Apple, Google Encryption Leads to 'Dark Place'
Tom's Guide ^ | 2014-10-16 | Paul Wagenseil

Posted on 10/17/2014 4:17:20 PM PDT by e-gadfly

FBI Director James Comey gave a strong speech today (Oct. 16) explaining why law enforcement should have access to data on encrypted smartphones. But he failed to cite any examples in which such law-enforcement access could have made the difference between life and death....

The Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) of 1994 mandates that telecommunications companies must give police the ability to listen in on telephone conversations. CALEA covers landlines and cellular carriers, and was expanded in 2004 to cover Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers and broadband Internet service providers.

For the past few years, the FBI has sought another expansion of CALEA, this time to gain access to encrypted Internet-based communications such as instant messaging and social networking. The White House has refused to act on the FBI's requests....

In a question-and-answer session following his speech, Comey was asked if he could cite a specific case in which someone would not have been rescued as a result of cellphone encryption. He could not.

"It's time that the post-Snowden pendulum be seen as having swung too far in one direction," Comey said. "Have we become so suspicious of government, and of law enforcement, that we will let bad guys walk away?"

(Excerpt) Read more at tomsguide.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; bigbrother; comey; fbi; google; privacy
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As for that last question -- well, yes. Better that some guilty might go free than that all should lose their liberty.
1 posted on 10/17/2014 4:17:20 PM PDT by e-gadfly
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To: e-gadfly

F the Feds.

They can’t spy on Americans? Too effing bad.

At this point, they have become the enemy.


2 posted on 10/17/2014 4:22:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: e-gadfly

Does the FBI regulate safes to be sure they can be cracked?


3 posted on 10/17/2014 4:24:28 PM PDT by anton
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To: e-gadfly

The FBI despises freedom.

a guy who has just burned down a church full of people walks up to you and asks for your help.

do you trust this guy...?


4 posted on 10/17/2014 4:27:43 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: e-gadfly
FBI Head: Apple, Google Encryption Leads to 'Dark Place'... Constitutionally protected liberty.
5 posted on 10/17/2014 4:31:39 PM PDT by DaveyB
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>>FBI Head: Apple, Google Encryption Leads to 'Dark Place'

6 posted on 10/17/2014 4:32:55 PM PDT by struggle
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To: e-gadfly

I think Republicans and Democrats can both agree on this one.

There’s no reason for personal data to not remain private and secure.

I love how they continually downplay how they still can easily acquire your call lists, your texts and your emails.

In what universe is that NOT ENOUGH? That’s already too much to be easily available. But the full contents of anyone’s device at any time? Get real!


7 posted on 10/17/2014 4:35:03 PM PDT by Advil000
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To: gaijin

Don’t you mean “A COMPOUND”?


8 posted on 10/17/2014 4:38:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Dunam, Duncan, man what infections these folks brought over.)
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To: e-gadfly

There are a lot of members of the Obama Administration who are competing to win the socialists’ prized Martin Bormann Wannabee Award - aka Government by Brute [Legal] Force “Achievement.”


9 posted on 10/17/2014 4:42:15 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Here's an idea: If James Comey wants the ability to plumb our private data...

Let's have his passwords, every single one.

And his wife's and his kid's.

His friends, and his parent's info.

Because that's what he's asking of us.

And he can just trust us that nothing bad will happen.

10 posted on 10/17/2014 4:49:47 PM PDT by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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Hey, Comey....get a warrant.

Is that above the pay grade of your agents?


11 posted on 10/17/2014 5:30:16 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Gee, this is the 1990s all over again with PGP encryption. The Feds lost - in fact they were humiliated.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 6:05:00 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: e-gadfly

FUFBI


13 posted on 10/17/2014 6:12:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

If this causes them problems, tough. They brought it on themselves by forfeiting the public’s trust, IMO.


14 posted on 10/17/2014 7:35:11 PM PDT by e-gadfly
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There will be no bad guys walking away...without being able to violate the rights of cell phone users, the FBI might have to undertake the serious work of police work to catch the criminals...


15 posted on 10/17/2014 7:38:54 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Advil000

This was signed into law by Clinton, and expanded by BUSH.

It’s already “bi-partisan” legislation.


16 posted on 10/17/2014 7:41:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Obama’s FBI directory is an idiot for expecting everyone to make his potentially unlawful activity easy.

If it were suppose to be easy there would be no such thing as a 5th amendment. But even given that all them meaningfull Federal Constitutional restrictions have been effectively thrown out by the hand picked Federal employees in black robes its still not rational to expect you can prohibit companies or people from trying to protect their data.

The technical Gene is out of the bottle, no law is ever going to put it back, you just going to have to learn to deal with it.


17 posted on 10/17/2014 7:42:33 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: anton

lol, a reasonable point of comparson but as with any remark of comparison its beside the point that they should not have nor should they ever expect to have (even if we were constitutionally capable of giving them) such a back door.

The FBI unfortunately is and has long been a somewhat dirty and constitutionally ambiguous agency, much as the whole idea of out right federal law enforcement treads into the intrastate domain of our respective State & local Government.

It is thus difficult to see as ligitimte or honest any man or woman wearing such a badge in that they took an oath to uphold a Constitution which very clearly ommits any such powers as their job requires.

How do you trust a person who can be so cognizant dissociate with regard to their own job? It makes you assume they just do it for the money or title and think nothing of the meaning of their work, which of course makes them a dangerous and constitutionally untrustworthy person to start with.


18 posted on 10/17/2014 7:53:09 PM PDT by Monorprise
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"It's time that the post-Snowden pendulum be seen as having swung too far in one direction," Comey said. "Have we become so suspicious of government, and of law enforcement, that we will let bad guys walk away?"

Tally another "yes" vote here.

19 posted on 10/17/2014 8:52:59 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: e-gadfly; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
More on Apple and Google's encryption, and the Government's pique about it — PING!


Apple Security Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

20 posted on 10/17/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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