Posted on 10/09/2014 3:35:59 PM PDT by KeyLargo
St. Louis Police Officer Fatally Shoots Teen Incident Sparks Protest Echoing Those in Nearby Ferguson, Mo.
Ben Kesling
An off-duty St. Louis police officer shot and killed a black teenager Wednesday evening, triggering protests in a metropolitan area that has been rattled by weeks of sometimes violent unrest in some neighborhoods following a high-profile police-involved shooting in August.
The white, six-year veteran of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department, who was working as a private security officer, shot and killed Vonderrit Myers Jr., an 18-year-old black teen, following an alleged struggle and after the teen allegedly fired a pistol at the officer, according to the departments chief.
The officer, 32, was patrolling the Shaw neighborhood in St. Louis when he saw three men acting suspiciously, according to Col. Sam Dotson, St. Louiss chief of police, in a news conference hours after the shooting. When approached by the officer, the men fled and the officer chased them, first in his vehicle, then on foot.
One of the men stopped and approached the officer in what Col. Dotson described as an aggressive manner while the officer yelled at the teenager to stop and that he was under arrest, Col. Dotson said. The two then began fighting and the officer pulled off the teenagers gray hooded sweatshirt before the teen turned to run from the officer, he said.
As the teen ran, he turned and fired three shots from a Ruger 9mm pistol before the officer returned fire, according to the police chief. The suspects pistol jammed, yet he didnt drop the weapon and kept attempting to fire, according to Col. Dotson. The officer eventually shot and killed the teen, firing 17 rounds.
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... He was pre-med. Really ...
Three shot from a peanut butter and jam sandwich and then it jammed.
Poor choice to arm himself with. I would have went for a pastrami on rye.
Vonderitt Myers
A gentle giant, no doubt ... never was in trouble ... just turning his life around ... an aspiring rap artist ... never hurt anybody ...
It is unfortunate that he was unable to buy pants that would come up to his waist...That white privilege is pernicious...
MY QUESTION IS WHEN IS A COP SHOOTING A CRIMINAL A GOOD SHOOT IN THE EYES OF THE “BLACK COMMUNITY?”
EXACTLY. WHEN. ?
MY QUESTION IS WHEN IS A COP SHOOTING A CRIMINAL A GOOD SHOOT IN THE EYES OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY?
To be incredibly insensitive and politically incorrect.
When the perp lives and the cop dies.
Twitchy is busy with all of the outpouring of sympathy for another poor homy, defenseless ‘Gentle Giant’.
Black people seem so concerned about this, you would their scientist and engineers would be working around the clock to replace firearms with a newer less lethal option.
Details of previous gun crime that Myers was out on bond for:
“Relatives of the slain teen told reporters on the scene that the deceased’s name was Vonderitt Myers Jr. In his press conference hours later, Dotson said that the suspect was “no stranger to law enforcement.” Court records show that Myers faced a felony charge of unlawful use of a weapon stemming from a June 27 incident. Myers also faced a misdemeanor charge of resisting and/or interfering with an arrest for the same incident.
Updated information 10:00 a.m.: According to a probable cause statement (viewable below), Myers was a passenger in a vehicle involved in a high-speed chase early in the morning of June 27. After the vehicle crashed in the 1100 block of South Grand Boulevard, Myers exited the vehicle and ran — ignoring a police officer’s command to stop. During the pursuit, Myers allegedly retrieved a Hi-Point 380 caliber semi-automatic pistol from his person and threw it in a sewage drain. Additional court documents indicate that Myers was released from jail after making a cash payment of $1,000 — 10 percent of his $10,000 bond. He was slated to go to trial on November 17.
Probable Cause Statement
1st, that sounds like a perfectly good shoot to me.
2nd - 17 rounds, that's kind of embarrassing. In the LE community there are a lot of opportunities to do live-fire training under stress, so that you learn to accommodate the adrenaline, fear and surprise to be able to respond effectively with 2-3 rounds. This minimizes possible 'mushroom' casualties.
3rd, Not sure what caliber the officer was using but if it was a nine mm and the 'teen' was a large man on drugs I could see it taking a lot more than 2-3 rounds to get him down without a head shot. I used to carry a 4 1/2 inch .357 S&W Model 19 with 110 grain hollow points...we had options back in the day and I figured that was good enough to take a man down efficiently but not go through too many walls.
BTW, my beat included Lacledetown, aka Pruitt-Igoe, back in the mid-eighties. About as ghetto St. Louis as it gets and I always was able to talk to people, even the bad guys. It's a different world today, too much fear and bs in certain demographics where there's no middle ground anymore...it's just straight up instant hostility. Glad I don't serve now.
Question still stands. When is it OK for a cop to smoke a black man? Or isn’t it ever OK?
The recently deceased “sandwich” carrying thug perp was awaiting trial on a gun (maybe an illegal “sandwich”) charge. He also had an ankle monitor on as a bond condition. We all know that he was a good teenager in the process of turning his life around.
Medal for "Courageous Restraint"
May 12, 2010
HOLD YOUR FIRE - EARN A MEDAL
http://sheikyermami.com/the-bronze-star-for-courageous-cowardice/
Let me get this straight, the officer was just roaming around looking for trouble when he saw the kids, minding their own business. He then shot and killed one of them because he didn't like how they looked.
The police made up some kind of story about the boy having a gun and are going to cover up the whole thing.
When is it OK for a cop to smoke a black man? Or isnt it ever OK?
When is the black’s life more valuable than mine.
Handling Officer-Involved Shootings
By Drew J. Tracy, Assistant Chief, Investigative Services Bureau, Montgomery County, Maryland, Police Department
Multiple Shots
The FBI study In the Line of Fire: Violence against Law EnforcementA Study of Felonious Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers shows that 41 percent of officers who fired in the study hit their intended targets, and the average distance to the target was 21 feet.4 Although this is a limited study, these averages are fairly consistent with the multiple shooting data available.
During court proceedings concerning an officer-involved shooting, the number of rounds fired by the officer or officers involved will be released to provide full disclosure. Grand juries often question why numerous rounds were fired. It is important, especially in handgun shootings, to show that (1) immediate incapacitation of the target with handgun rounds is not a reliable factor, even if there is a direct central nervous system shot; and (2) direct shots that cause lethal blood loss are also not immediate. There is sufficient oxygen within the brain to support full, voluntary action for 10 seconds to 15 seconds after the heart has been destroyed.5 A determined individual who has received a fatal shot may continue to function because of adrenalin, sheer emotion, or stimulants in their system. Law enforcement personnel are taught to shoot at center mass and to continue until the threat is removed. Under stress, it is difficult to fire accurate shots that strike vital organs, and, in the average shooting, less than half of the shots fired hit the intended target. As the distance increases, more shots may be fired by officers to compensate for decreased accuracy.
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Obama has so many “sons” in St. Louis I wonder how he had time to run for political office.
I just put up 22 of those medals for the night. They are great for making compost, too!
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