Posted on 09/26/2014 9:16:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
We dont know details yet of the murder of a woman [1] at Vaughan Foods — an Oklahoma distribution center — by a co-worker, but we do know that it was a beheading and we do know the alleged suspect — Alton Nolen, 30 — was a new convert to Islam.
We also know that other workers at Vaughan say the suspect had tried to convert them to that religion.
Some MSM outlets are emphasizing that the suspect was recently fired (it’s workplace violence, doncha know?), but the number of firings that lead to revenge beheadings is minuscule. In fact, I don’t know of any previous. But we don’t have to look too far back, not more than a day or two, to find a popular motivation for beheadings in general — jihad.
Was Nolen motivated by jihad or workplace revenge or a cocktail of both? Probably both. He had a checkered past. He had been convicted in January 2011 of multiple drug offenses, assault and battery on a police officer and escape from detention, according to state records. He was released from prison in March 2013.
We dont know the extent to which Nolens conversion to Islam occurred in prison, although it is highly likely most of it did. This is surely worth investigating. Such conversions are a monumental powder keg in the process of going off. From Wikipedia [2]:
J. Michael Waller claims that Muslim inmates comprise 17-20% of the prison population in New York, or roughly 350,000 inmates in 2003. He also claims that 80% of the prisoners who “find faith” while in prison convert to Islam.[1] These converted inmates are mostly African American, with a small but growing Hispanic minority.[2] Waller also asserts that many converts are radicalized by outside Islamist [3] groups linked to terrorism, but other experts suggest that when radicalization does occur it has little to no connection with these outside interests.[3][4][5]
Oh, really? Or should I say, What difference does it make? Those other experts are being naïve or tendentious. Its not as if the Islamic extremist playbooks are a secret. They are the basic texts of the religion itself, studied by all adherents in or outside prison, in large groups or by themselves. These same texts call for the extermination or, at best, dhimmitude of the infidel who does not convert. So the behavior of the ummah is regulated across borders. You dont have to be a card-carrying member of ISIL to know how to behead. Anyone can do it.
This makes our prisons veritable training grounds — petri dishes, if you will — for fanatic killers of the type of the Oklahoma suspect, not to mention recruitment centers for whatever murderous Islamic sect happens to be in vogue that week or month. The only difference between New York and Oklahoma prisons would be one of scale.
A Justice Department report criticized the prison system for failing to protect against infiltration by religious extremists. But that report was way back in 2004. The situation is unquestionably much worse now.
Furthermore, the report exonerated radical chaplains, placing the blame on extremist inmates running worship services. Im skeptical. The entire system must be examined, including every chaplain. The New York State system had a chaplain (Imam Warith Deen Umara) who praised the September 11 attacks. The Oklahoma beheading makes a complete public investigation mandatory.
The more difficult question, however, is what to do after the investigation, if the results are as they seem. Banning Islam from our prisons for inciting violence might backfire in a way that would engender even more conversions. Still, jihadism in it essence advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, with which it is incompatible. Should we allow such a thing inside prison? The conventional answer is to seek out moderate Islamic chaplains to counter the extremists. But where are such people and, more specifically, where have they been? Other than the extraordinary Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, the outspoken moderates are an extremely scarce commodity.
Nevertheless something must be done now to prevent our prisons form becoming Jihad Factories. Theyre already more than halfway there.
UPDATE: The following response came into me at Twitter regarding the question in the title – Have our prisons become Jihad Factories?
JacknTexas (@JackCnTexas [4]) | |
9/26/14, 6:24 PM [5]
@rogerlsimon [6] just retired from the prison system in Texas. I can assure you that is the case.
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The fastest growing religion in the prison system is islam. Considering that the vast majority of those incarcerated are black, and islam targets blacks ...
I haven’t seen any photos of the victim, prior to the beheading, of course. I dont’ want people to get too wrapped up in trying to analyze or empathize with the jihadist. He’s a murderous nutjob who still needs killing by the proper authorities.
Seems to me that the NY system and others could be sued using the doctrine of vicarious liability.
It's been talked about for decades that Islamists were in prisons recruiting followers.. at least I've seen much written about it over the years.
The authorities were there in the prisons. They heard and saw what was happening. They approved it.
Well, duh. I knew that forty years ago.
Yup.
My dad worked the prisons for 40+ years.
He warned me way back in the 70s.
Based on comments made so far....I’d take an educated guess that this guy is bi-polar. He may or may not have been on medication, which might be curious for the authorities to dig a little into this.
“The fastest growing religion in the prison system is islam. Considering that the vast majority of those incarcerated are black, and islam targets blacks ...”.........
The GOOD part of this is we know where most of them are right now. As soon as odumbo opens the gates, the flood of born again muzzies will make it more difficult to find and “exterminate” them later. Best get it done with while we can.
They preach that they are all falsely imprisoned by thier enemies.
When you hire subhuman savages this is what you get.
I suggest we put into effect the “live by the sword, die by the sword” motto and behead this piece of pig poop.
Since at least the 1960s!
“Welcome to the party, pal.”
Ramadan in LA County Jail
I don’t think that it necessarily targets blacks, it just appeals to those of a violent emotional nature.
American blacks have a serious cultural issue controlling their emotions. That is why violence is so common when blacks come together. Look at the show Love and Hip Hop in Atlanta. Every episode ends in violence and it is one of the most hateful and toxic shows on television. I spent years working with black teachers and students in the inner city and they will be the first to tell you that there are major issues dealing with emotion. The first response is violence. Most were raised by women and men oh find a bigger group who’s emotions control them. Women by far are emotional creatures and one need look no further than cultural anecdotes on women during their bleeding time.
Islam appeals to the worst of human emotions and exploits them. There is no message of love and forgiveness. There is no message of tenderness and respect. Instead, it is all about violence and control. Look at the fruits of its followers. Jesus was a humanist. Muhammad was a killer and soldier. The idea of strength through power and control appeals to the violent and unempathetic. I’m not surprised that Islam has found a welcome home in our prisons. There lay our most qualified applicants to the religion of the sword.
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