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Rohnert Park teen comes up with novel way to store water
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/home/2674898-181/rohnert-park-teen-comes-up ^ | Sept 8 2014 | ROBERT DIGITALE

Posted on 09/08/2014 6:05:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

Some students just want their science fair projects to earn a little extra credit. Steven McDowell wants his “water fence” to change the way people irrigate their yards.

“I wanted to solve the drought,” said McDowell, a 15-year-old sophomore at Rohnert Park’s Technology High School.

McDowell’s model of a fence that stores rainwater won him the top awards for his category last March at Sonoma County and Bay Area science fairs. That motivated him to form a company with his parents, pitch his idea to investors and make plans to take a section of his soon-to-be manufactured fence next month to a green construction show month in New Orleans.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drought; water
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To: a fool in paradise

rain...barrel....laws.....?

I should have guessed ,,,I guess


41 posted on 09/08/2014 9:32:41 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

From 2010, could be more now in 2014

http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_rainwater_collection_water.html
Utah isn’t the only state with rainwater collection bans, either. Colorado and Washington also have rainwater collection restrictions that limit the free use of rainwater, but these restrictions vary among different areas of the states and legislators have passed some laws to help ease the restrictions.


42 posted on 09/08/2014 9:36:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: a fool in paradise

We need a complete elimination of the full set of current politicians.


43 posted on 09/08/2014 9:42:00 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: SkyDancer

Doesn’t that have something to do with it settling into the aquifers?

Science types out there-yes or no?

And why haven’t they figured out how to collect all the city runoff in places like L. A.?


44 posted on 09/08/2014 9:50:21 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S.)
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To: Pontiac

you may mean a Cubic Foot of water ?

which weighs a little over 60 lbs not 112 lbs


45 posted on 09/08/2014 10:19:30 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: jcon40
I did mean cubic foot but thanks for making me think again.

Water is 62.3 pounds per cubic foot and if we are talking about a six foot fence there would be 6 cubic feet of water on top of every linear foot of a fence one foot wide.

So I did make an error. That should be roughly 374 pounds per square foot of fence that must be supported by some kind of footer or foundation.

When I wrote that post for a second I thought that doesn’t seem right but I didn’t stop.

46 posted on 09/08/2014 10:29:06 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

still is a fun idea to kick around. HDPE is a great plastic that is less expensive than plexiglass and also more durible.

more of a triangular shape would help stability. The wall would probably have quite a heat gain, nice for watering in cool weather.

Feezing problems would lessen w larger volumes

Many ways to combat water impurity

But 13,000 gallons is not that much water. I own a 4500 Gallon water truck that empties fast


47 posted on 09/08/2014 10:44:04 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: jcon40

water trucks from China

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/water-truck.html

Shipping & Handling must be a killer.


48 posted on 09/08/2014 10:48:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jcon40
But 13,000 gallons is not that much water.

I agree.

The average family uses 400 gallons of water per day.

This tank is supposed to be for watering a garden however.

If use drip sprinklers it might be ok. A regular soaker sprinkler loses too much to evaporation.

49 posted on 09/08/2014 10:57:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: GeronL

Oh Crazy China .....no thanks

Thinking of selling mine as the cost to keep on the road in California is ridiculous


50 posted on 09/08/2014 11:01:10 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: jcon40
more of a triangular shape would help stability.

Yes but you could lose a great deal of volume.

Depending on your soil you could perhaps have a ten foot fence with 4 feet of the fence buried below ground to provide stability. It could save on concrete and increase your storage volume at the same time.

51 posted on 09/08/2014 11:04:42 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: jcon40

Stainless or polly tank?


52 posted on 09/08/2014 11:05:44 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Good point

Drip eeks it out sparingly


53 posted on 09/08/2014 11:13:55 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: Pontiac

not saying a pyrimid shape just a wider base and skinnier top could help stability butwould result in less water pressure But youre not going to get much pressure at 4/10’s pounds per verticle foot

Stainless ? who can afford thatstuff any more

polly is good see H.D.P.E products used extensively in construction


54 posted on 09/08/2014 11:19:57 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: MeshugeMikey

I like the idea . . . but it seems to me the wall would have to be reinforced like a battleship to hold the weight of all that water. Also, here where we live (I’m just up the road from this kid’s hometown) there is NO rain from about June to October most years. So the captured rain will only last so long. Lastly, if the wall is tall and solid and in your front yard, that’s going to be like living in a fortress. Maybe not something everyone would want.


55 posted on 09/08/2014 11:29:18 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: babygene

13,000 gallons of water would be quite a flood if something were to breach such a water fence. Perhaps a falling fir tree or an earthquake would do it. Even a small leak would be a disaster because how do you plug such a leak?


56 posted on 09/08/2014 11:51:31 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jcon40
not saying a pyrimid shape just a wider base and skinnier top could help stability butwould result in less water pressure

Actually you do not lose any water pressure because of the shape of the tank.

The only thing that matters is the height of the water column.

You will lose water pressure more quickly however as you use water because the tank level will lower more quickly.

I do like the idea of burying part of the tank. You could probably get by with only a foot of concrete for the footer by doing that. Of course you would have to add a pump to the system to get access to the lower level water.

No telling what it would take to get a construction permit of something like this.

57 posted on 09/08/2014 11:51:40 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Every site I looked at rated weight of water per square foot at about 62 lbs.


58 posted on 09/09/2014 12:01:00 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

a clear fence in a dry/drought area could start fires by acting as a magnifying glass on dry scrub grasses or trees. water in the fence itself may potentially wind up magnifying the effect.


59 posted on 09/09/2014 12:06:02 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: antceecee
Every site I looked at rated weight of water per square foot at about 62 lbs.

Well it is 62.3 pounds per CUBIC foot.

And I did correct myself in post 46

60 posted on 09/09/2014 12:10:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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