Posted on 08/10/2014 10:58:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
Satellite data released.
Alex Jones claims the data is "doctored."
Russia Today reports that "news sources claim the data is 'doctored.'"
Mission accomplished.
May be. But he’s right about the government not telling us everything.
That has already been done. It was done within a few days of the incident.
A military spokesman from the Pentagon came out with a statement.
Where have you been -- in a cave somewhere???
But you just know that a Russian BUK missile launcher in eastern Ukraine didn't do it, right???
I just know that putting out propaganda instead of evidence is wrong.
And yet you admit that you haven't looked at any of the evidence -- so how would you know whether it's one or the other???
So, NATO came out with a statement saying there was irrefutable evidence that a missile track originated from a distinct rebel controlled launcher and hit the airliner? Please provide that link. Pretty please!
I said I hadn’t seen the things you stated. Not that I hadn’t followed it. And I asked for you to show me.
Furthermore, take a moment to think about the hypothesis that a Ukrainian jet would fire upon a civilian airliner.
WHY? To sway public opinion against Russia? Public opinion was already against Russia. The Ukrainians know that the airspace is being monitored by US and NATO assets. They know that the radar intercept and tracking signals from a fighter jet are clearly different than from a BUK. They KNOW there is no way they would get away with a shoot-down.
So now you are left with the possibility of human-error/accident on the part of the (mythical) Ukrainian pilot. A highly trained pilot flying ground support/interdiction mission would not have any reason to approach, much less engage, an airliner. He's trained enough to differentiate between a great big fat-body passenger plane and a Russian jet. Furthermore, the airliner is squawking its status for all to hear and see and in no way resembles, visually or otherwise, any Russian spy birds. He, the (mythical) Ukrainian pilot, will have no reason to even “accidentally” paint the airliner.
Finally, if there had really been a Ukrainian jet in the area, the dumb-ass militia/separatists/terrorists/Russian pawns would have been arguing that they were aiming at IT and the airliner just got in the way. Instead we have intercepts of those same dumb-asses bragging about bringing down a Ukrainian spy bird.
They are dumb-asses. Barely trained conscripts misusing 1980’s technology = lots of dead people. Putin didn't order the shooting, but he put the gun in the hand of the perp and set him out to rob the liquor store.
If Rand Paul runs for the Republican nomination his father is going to be his worst nightmare.
The Ukrainians have plenty of them. The Russians have photos of Ukrainian ones in the area of the shootdown.
Do the Russians have a photo of the BUK that they gave to the separatists? Wait, never mind.
I think the rebels captured their BUK from the Ukrainians. That’s where they get alot of their weapons.
I bet Rand wishes he could put a muzzle on his old man.
Sooner or later Obama and his Democrats plus the American Democrat Party "news" media will get around to claiming Bush had something to do with the missing airliner and the plane that was shot down. They probably have the stories already written.
Your reading skills leave a lot to be desired.
Try again
I said I hadn’t seen the things you stated. Not that I hadn’t followed it.
Those are one and the same thing -- if you saw it then you followed it.
And I asked for you to show me.
Find it yourself --
Maybe so but why would you even bother to take one out of storage when your enemy has no air force to use it against.
Check the domain.
Of course the United States has accurate satellite coverage and one reason they aren't releasing any official satellite or radar images is because they don't want to get caught lying about the incident.
Why would a rebel commander want to bite the hand that feeds him?
I read it, but its not a statement from NATO. It is a statement from an anonymous source to CNN. It also says that they do not know who shot it down. Only that it was a BUK and that it most likely came from Eastern Ukraine, not Russia. That they are still analyzing.
The article did say that Ukraine doesn’t possess any such launchers even though they are a former soviet republic and that one might have been captured from them by the rebels in Eastern Ukraine. That appears to be a lie. If Ukraine don’t have any, how did the rebels capture one from them? If that contradiction isn’t sketchy enough to raise a few eyebrows, I don’t know what is.
Here are articles showing who possesses them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system
http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/tehnika-pvo/75-zenitniy-raketniy-kompleks-buk
All sides have BUKs. A BUK took down the plane. None of that is in question. Only who shot it.
Dunno - go to the DM and read article ...
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