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US Contractor Greystone Denies Its ‘Mercenaries’ in Ukraine
ABC News ^ | 4/8/2014 | Kirit Radia, James Gordon Meek, Lee Ferran and Ali Weinberg

Posted on 04/08/2014 4:29:43 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

The Russian government today claimed there are more than 100 American 'mercenaries' from a defense contracting company disguised as Ukrainian troops in the embattled former Soviet nation, a claim the American firm and top U.S. officials deny.

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The latest news relesae from Greystone, as posted on a company blog, is from September 2012, titled "New business in Russia" and simply says the company "provided executive protection services in Russia." In April 2012, the company announced it had been awarded a similar contract in the Caucasus region of Eurasia.

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I believe Obama and Jay Carney! And you can keep your doctor if you like him, too. And we are not at war with Libya because we don't have boots on the ground. And the Muslim Brotherhood is "largely secular." All said a few years ago by THIS administration - the Obama administration.
1 posted on 04/08/2014 4:29:43 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Remember, only Republicans could ever do something like this, if true. Only Bush can warmonger, too, if true. /sarcsam

Obama: he’s the Peace Prize president, right?

/more sarcasm.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 4:31:37 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

I wonder if McCain will go back over there and pose with that Svoboda leader again?

Never, and he never posed with anyone in Syria, either, too.

Rand Paul lied! /s.

Conservatives lied about that McCain/Syrian soldiers (whatever they were) picture pose thingy, right? /s.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 4:37:05 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Putin has learned the best of the Democrat tricks—Astro turfing and using Rent-A-Mobs.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 4:46:51 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
says the company "provided executive protection services in Russia."

One of the things they do IS provide executive protection services. That may be what they are doing there. OR, they may be U.S. surrogates. OR, they may have been hired by Ukraine.

5 posted on 04/08/2014 4:47:46 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So, I can assume that the anti-war brigade that hounded every step of the Bush administration is going to be just as vocal in their opposition to Obama’s warmongering?

What, you mean we’re not going to see John Kerry, Harry Reid, and all their friends in the halls of government loudly denouncing the president? Darn, here I was expecting liberals to hold a liberal to the same standard of behavior they used for a conservative.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 4:54:46 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published headline, thx.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 5:06:51 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Mr. Skittles has been poking the American people for years now and they’ve not rose up. Perhaps in his messianic thoughts, he thought he could just poke the Russian Bear with impunity like he has with the American people? Unlike the American people, the bear woke up leaving Mr. Skittles in utter shock, awe and terror. Yes Sir! Mr. Skittles. That’s a real, live bear and it will tear you to shreds if you keep poking it. Maybe poking that bear was not such a good messianic idea after all. Let’s go poke the American people again instead. At what point will they rise up too?


8 posted on 04/08/2014 5:48:36 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well catch a few and water board them till they break. That`ll prove or disprove the point.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 5:52:47 PM PDT by nomad
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To: jameslalor; RaceBannon; firebrand; Hell in a hand basket; Dutchy; kristinn

“So, I can assume that the anti-war brigade that hounded every step of the Bush administration is going to be just as vocal in their opposition to Obama’s warmongering?”

ah. the memories...


10 posted on 04/08/2014 10:18:26 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Of course the Greystone will deny their men are there. That’s how they work...we’re not suppose to know who they are or where they are. They’d never admit where they have been or going to...and should they do so it’s a distraction.

Obama will deny as his track history says. He can’t be believed about anything anyway. I’m not even sure why he’s even mentioned anymore.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 10:30:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jeff Chandler

Greystone was a name change for BlackStone, I think it was called. Remember they were in Iraq and the liberals had kissy fits about that.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 10:33:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: Yehuda

yea-uh....


13 posted on 04/09/2014 4:02:12 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Looks like we have some ObamaBots here at FR falling in line with him and surrendering to Obama’s will.

Sad.


14 posted on 04/09/2014 6:36:12 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Gee, you really think they’d admit it, if it were true?


15 posted on 04/09/2014 6:36:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Jay Carney apparently denied it in this ABC News report.

I believe him.

Didn’t he say, too, that we could keep our doctor if we liked him?

See, Carney can be trusted.

/sarcasm.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 6:48:16 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: caww

Blackwater. A bunch of Scott Coleman type characters.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 8:02:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well as long as it’s not Halliburton. [/sarc]


18 posted on 04/09/2014 8:06:37 AM PDT by McGruff (Want to hurt Mozilla? Don't use Firefox's search bar. That is their money maker.)
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To: McGruff

LOL.


19 posted on 04/09/2014 8:19:54 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Jeff Chandler
Ok...maybe it is Blackwater....

At any rate...I see no reason not to believe they are there in some capacity....who's actually hired them is another story, but just as nations have their “special forces” I think also nations use whatever means is available to affect an outcome favorable to their agenda.

In Ukraine's case there are many armed and otherwise groups in Ukraine...homegrown and foreign... hooking up together as well as operating separately...and some of these have their own personal agendas.

Then you have the media spinsters and propaganda “naming” and “blaming”.....social networks infiltrated with personnel to affect conversations.....and then there's the US/EU and Russia ‘leadership’ and politicians all chiming in and pointing the finger.

No matter how any look at this now...the dust is still in the air and the ultimate outcome questionable to say the least. All being said is basically speculation at this point.

What we definitely know is the US cannot claim “vital Interest” in Ukraine.....it's involvement is an extension of EU’s Interests and Nato involvement.....and of course McCain's personal involvement to protect his personal interests in Ukraine. Likely other politicians as well.

20 posted on 04/09/2014 10:35:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

....” you really think they’d admit it, if it were true?”....

We know they wouldn’t unless it could be used favorably for political purposes, and even then doubtful.

Any time there’s conflict there are always “outsiders” who come into the fray...appointed for a mission and those not. Some just love to go where there’s a chance to fight, and more of these then most would admit...most get paid something from some source, so it’s a “Job” to them... Bottom feeders.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 10:41:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

what are McCain’s personal interests in Ukraine?


22 posted on 04/09/2014 10:43:19 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Ukraine leadership supported his run for President, for just one thing......I have some information I’ll try and retrieve about this and bring it here...


23 posted on 04/09/2014 11:15:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: grania
I'll attempt to exert the lengthy varied writings I have taken these from...

".....The Board of Directors of the IRI (The International Republican Institute) is chaired by Senator John McCain,.. the IRI has been active in Ukraine for over 10 years ....funded by US budget/ US private capital....McCain's involvement in the colored revolutions is clearly established in the documentary 'Manon Loizeau' devoted to color revolutions. .....easy to understand why McCain was recently rushed to Kiev to support the Ukrainian Protesters.

The "European People's Party" has close relations with the IRI..Wilfried Martens, EPP President at the time, supported John McCain in the U.S. presidential election.

After..The "Orange" Revolution, MCCain had already visited Ukraine (February 2005) to meet those he had largely funded. ...and was directly in violation of the International Agreement of non-interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign country.

McCain also visited the Arab countries..... Tunisia (2-21-2011)....Egypt (2-27-2011),.... Libya (4-22-2011)...Syria (5-27-2013)..... During the first two trips, governments had already fallen. In the last two, the battle raged (it is still in Syria.)

In Kiev, McCain addressed the rebels of Maidan (December 14, 2013). ......stating..."We are here to support your cause and it is the sovereign right of Ukraine to choose its own destiny freely and independently.... And the destiny that you want is in Europe "......he trumpeted. He met Yatsenyuk Klitschko and Tyahnybok........... Tyahnybok, was banned last year to enter the United States because of his anti-Semitic discourse.

The annual reports of the NED (also present in Kiev and affiliated with IRI)) show that just for 2012 the amounts awarded to sixty Ukrainian organizations amounted to nearly $ 3.4 million. ... In this report, it is stated that the IRI and NDI ..(McCain) received $380,000 and $345,000 for their activities in Ukraine. This would not include other payments just from NED.

...McCain, Guido Westerwelle, head of German diplomacy, took a walkabout amid protesters in the Maidan square with his "protected" "Yats" and "Klitsch" or, more politely, Yatsenyuk and Klitschko. .....After talking with them behind closed doors, he said ......"We are not here to support a party, but 'we support the European values'. And when we engage in these European values, it is of course nice to know that the vast majority of Ukrainians share these values, want to share and want to follow the path to Europe."

Yushchenko and McCain (February 2005).. note how he's drapped with the Orange Revolution scarf.

McCain meets Klitschko and Yatsenyuk Tyahnybok (December 2013)


24 posted on 04/09/2014 12:08:36 PM PDT by caww
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Thanks. It’s astounding. McCain’s been the globalists water boy for quite some time, perhaps since leaving that VN prison.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 12:33:31 PM PDT by grania
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....” McCain’s been the globalists water boy for quite some time”.....

Oh yes indeed...he’s like a double agent...five times over...anywhere it gives him exposure and feeds his huge ego that he’s a King player on the International Stage.....Worse, He’s Obamas lacky as well....which just rolls my stomach!

McCain has no alligence to any country, let alone ours.....He’s become one of the so called.....”World Politicians”....one of the those above the others calling themselves “World Citizens”.

I think McCains’s wife has more influence over him then when he was in VN prison...She’s a sold out Progressive, march to elitism candidate, that there is....only on the arm of her husband. So is her daughter.

Politicians are now in the Global Mode of how they see issues...no longer nationhood...rather they have their seats picked out for the International Stage and the ties with it.....

I miss America so much...and feel like it’s being taken away by an enemy within...because it is!:(


26 posted on 04/09/2014 2:25:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You were referring to Blackwater, and their new name sounds like a cologne, XE. One of my college fratmates worked for Blackwater previously. Tells me if you’re an adrenaline junkie, this is the job and they damn well know how to shut up.


27 posted on 04/09/2014 4:02:37 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

Yes, and I also noted it’s new name is XE...However, seemed right, for the content of the poster I was addressing, to use Blackwater as Greystone former name since it had not been changed to XEt when they were in Iraq.

Am sorry I couldn’t recall the exact name ‘Blackwater’....I t was familiar to me because Cheney was in some hot water for a time for his association with Blackwater.

Not sure what you mean by “adrenaline junkie”.....but certainly the men who go out from Greystone keep everything close to their chests before, during, and after any mission.

I have a family member who was serving in one of our military’s “special” forces who still today does not speak about it..nor would he. When he was called he went, and no communication with him throughout his time gone, nor where he was,...we didn’t even know when he’d return.

Proud to say that he remains trustworthy today though he’s out of the service.


28 posted on 04/09/2014 6:31:02 PM PDT by caww
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