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Alan Grayson says US ‘should be pleased’ Russia annexed Crimea
The Daily Caller ^ | March 26, 2014 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 03/27/2014 1:50:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Florida Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson said Tuesday that the United States “should be pleased” about Russia annexing the Crimea, calling it “a virtually bloodless transfer of power.”

At a Foreign Affairs Committee mark-up Tuesday, Grayson said that the referendum in Crimea was the entirely legitimate vote by a group of people who were upset that their chosen leader, ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, had been removed from office. The role of Russian forces, in his telling, was simply that of peacekeeper.

“You may say that [Yanukovych] was thrown out of office for good reason. There are allegations against him that he was corrupt, there are allegations against him that he used the military against his own people to stay in power. But the fact is that from the perspective of the Crimeans, their leader, the one that they placed in charge of their country, was thrown out of power,” Grayson said. “So it should come as no surprise … that the Crimeans had had enough, and they wanted to leave this artificial entity called the Ukraine.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alangrayson; crimea; democrats; florida; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
Just like that little kerfluffle between me and the missus. Nobody's business but ours, hear me, chump?!
1 posted on 03/27/2014 1:50:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the genius hath spoken.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 1:53:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At a Foreign Affairs Committee mark-up Tuesday, Grayson said that the referendum in Crimea was the entirely legitimate vote by a group of people who were upset that their chosen leader,...

I wonder what position Alan will take when Texas votes to secede from the union? What will he think when America starts to fall apart because of the leadership in this country?

Here is an ass putting up a smoke screen in the form of a silver lining. It's like saying, "at last their weren't 5,000 innocent Americans killed on 9/11."

3 posted on 03/27/2014 1:54:30 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I may have to change my opinion of the whole Crimea thing. There is no way I would ever agree with this psychopath.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 1:54:43 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The US" should be neither pleased nor displeased with the democratically decided annexation. Our government should be disinterested in the non-threatening doings of another sovereign country.

But, while we're choosing sides, what does Grease-son think of the democratically elected government of Ukraine being overpowered by anarchists?

5 posted on 03/27/2014 1:55:05 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The leftists are frightened to death that Americans will perceive issues of greater importance to them than Globull Warming, gay marriage and bullying.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 1:56:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going to rob a local bank and use the Grayson defense.

“Your Honor, you should be glad it was a bloodless transfer of funds.”


7 posted on 03/27/2014 1:56:13 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can someone please flush this turd?


8 posted on 03/27/2014 1:58:09 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Organic Panic
Or the Breaking Bad line: "It was a victimless crime."
9 posted on 03/27/2014 2:01:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe some republican congressman down there should take over Grayson’s district and overthrow him. See how he likes it.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 2:05:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you think Russia would gladly take Grayson off our hands..it could be considered a good will gesture..but I don’t even wish Grayson on Russia


11 posted on 03/27/2014 2:06:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Naw, they’re still miffed about that whole Lee Harvey Oswald thing.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 2:07:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

The voters did flush him back in 2010.

He’s obviously a floater, because he’s popped back up again 2 years later.


13 posted on 03/27/2014 2:09:39 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I expect Grayson’s resignation no more than 60 seconds after Russia crosses its border once again, which should be any time now


14 posted on 03/27/2014 2:16:35 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a freak


15 posted on 03/27/2014 2:16:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Tenacious 1
I wonder what position Alan will take when Texas votes to secede from the union?

Let's assume for the moment that Texas is the only state that wants to leave. Now you have two options:

a) Use military force, kill thousands of people, and force the rest to remain in the union, lest they too want to be killed.

b) Let Texas go. This means Texas is free to join any other state on the planet.

The point is that the union (in any form, anywhere) exists only on voluntary grounds. Once a large enough territory wants to leave, you have lost them - if not physically then morally. Keeping people against their will is both dangerous and impractical. Even a short and victorious war against TX will leave too many scars.

I believe this is one of the reasons why Ukraine just voices their unhappiness, but makes no military moves to keep Crimea. It is simply not possible politically. We can argue about how many Crimeans exactly want to be part of Russia - 89% or 91% - but it's clear that Ukraine has no traction there. Ukraine was only acceptable when the state was more or less stable. Today Ukrainian Parliament raised taxes, and there is another crowd outside, trying to evict this set of rulers just weeks after they assumed control. This is exactly how anarchy works. Crimeans are probably happy that they escaped Ukraine just in time, even if you only consider taxes.

16 posted on 03/27/2014 2:22:08 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: F15Eagle; All

17 posted on 03/27/2014 2:22:35 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t want to be the Boy Blunder when Batman gets back in town ...


18 posted on 03/27/2014 2:23:51 PM PDT by x
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To: F15Eagle

With that face - what’d he do? Loose his membership in the mob?


19 posted on 03/27/2014 2:27:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: F15Eagle

Is there anything intelligent that ever come out of his filthy mouth?


20 posted on 03/27/2014 2:27:13 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: musicman

lol


21 posted on 03/27/2014 2:44:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad Grayson has stopped beating his wife.


22 posted on 03/27/2014 2:44:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: chiefqc; SkyDancer

His past behavior is one of, ah, a certain type of person.


23 posted on 03/27/2014 2:45:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Except for the part where Russia was true to its corrupt, totalitarian form. That is, their stuffing of votes, observers being generally from the old USSR, and roughing up anyone not going by their script.

At the least, it is something not to be recognized. At the most, something to contain(before it spills over to anyone else) by standing firm against Russia. Either way, stop only when Russia backs down. Unfortunately, this administration will do nothing that is truly effective.


24 posted on 03/27/2014 3:17:14 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: musicman

#17: Ouch! Double Ouch! and WINNER!

I wonder what Grayson is going to say and do when the Spanish try to take back the Spanish speaking parts of Florida?


25 posted on 03/27/2014 3:36:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Greysard

If option A is chosen, expect the 21st Century version of the Sherman option to be on the table, preceded by a northward relocation of weapons. Whatever is left, Texas will use to give a very good fight. Expect the deaths to be in the millions when all is done.

Option B is highly unlikely given that the departure would not go pleasantly. It would only happen if Option A renders Texas uninhabitable.


26 posted on 03/27/2014 3:41:26 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For once Grayson agrees with me. Putin would have been derelict if he had failed to occupy Crimea before NATO planted its flag in Ukraine. Let's not forget that the elected government in Kiev was overthrown in a West-aided coup, replacing Moscow's ally with a hostile government in control of the Black Sea. There is no way Russia was going to let its strategic naval and air bases in Crimea fall into NATO's hands, and we were naive to believe that Moscow would just stand by and watch it happen.

NATO has overplayed its hand. After the fall of the old Soviet Union, we convinced Russia to withdraw its troops from the old Soviet bloc nations by promising that we wouldn't advance NATO into the voids they left behind. Then in 1999 and in 2004, we added 12 new NATO members across Eastern Europe. That was pretty slick, but Russia took notice.

In 2008, Russia invaded Georgia to prevent NATO from expanding east of the Black Sea. Now the West has helped depose Russia's Ukrainian ally, and in response Russia has annexed Crimea and is now on the verge of splitting Ukraine in two. Who couldn't see this coming?

27 posted on 03/27/2014 3:45:00 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

Rohrabacher and Grayson were saying similar things.

Rohrabacher called out the backing of Al Qaeda in Syria.


28 posted on 03/27/2014 4:42:15 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He probably is also pleased by his beating of his divorcing wife as a bloodless transfer of power.


29 posted on 03/27/2014 5:01:36 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Alan Grayson trying to make Sheila Jackson Lee look like Einstein?


30 posted on 03/27/2014 5:05:29 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: KevinB

Comment at the site:

PrincessBarry

Did Grayson PUNCH any women in the face at this meeting?


31 posted on 03/27/2014 5:08:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Day ain’t over, yet.


32 posted on 03/27/2014 7:23:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


33 posted on 03/29/2014 8:27:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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