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Strategery or caving in to the Gaystapo?
1 posted on 01/24/2014 4:44:08 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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My dog IS my dependent. Dog food and vet bills are no longer low cost items. I need a deduction for Income Tax. Marrying my dog may be the only way....


2 posted on 01/24/2014 4:45:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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Govt has no business being involved with marriage in any way.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 4:47:27 PM PST by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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What benefits attend to the State recognizing and defining marriage, as well as other relationships that are not marriage? Ideally the State should be an agent to promote prosperity and good order. The State defines a multitude of relationships and commitments. It honors faithfulness, truth, and other virtues the left would like to define or legislate out of existence. There is an inherent interest for the State to distinguish between virtue and vice, using its authority to punish evildoers and reward those who do good - just as it is in a good, solid home with God-fearing children and parents.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 4:50:56 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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This might be a good idea. The state does not marry people, churches do. People could still marry in their church. What’s the advantage of registering it with the state? It isn’t taxes... There is a marriage penalty with taxes.


5 posted on 01/24/2014 4:51:40 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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Hadn’t considered this angle. Wonder how it would play out.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 4:51:54 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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Badly written article, but amazing that it's actually being considered by a lawmaker. It doesn't mention that marriage would go back to where it was in the first place - the churches.

IMO, it's the only solution, and it's the right solution. The only business the State has in marriage is to recognize its validity under the 1st Amendment - religion alone. But the State should have zero authority in actually validating its existence.

That's why liberals scream over this idea - without the State, what do they have?

7 posted on 01/24/2014 4:53:12 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Marriage is between a man and a woman and God so how did the state get in the mix of all of this?


11 posted on 01/24/2014 5:02:07 PM PST by plainshame
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Might be a better move to prevent all divorce.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 5:17:45 PM PST by Cboldt
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I’m all for this...

Because if marriage is what the STATE or FED defines it as, instead of what GOD established it to be, then it means nothing.

This country has rejected God, and thus it’s freedom.

I applaud my state of OK for this


16 posted on 01/24/2014 5:38:55 PM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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Marriage has always had to be legal, or it didn’t count outside of the people who were rooming with each other.

You can do what ever you want in private, and call it whatever you want, but if you want it to be legal, then it has to be legal.

No one forces people to “marry” according to law.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 5:44:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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Just wondering - Could a church perform marriages that it considered strictly spiritual commitments without the state considering it a LEGAL marriage for tax purposes, property rights, etc.? Such marriages would be registered in church records but not forwarded to the state for official recognition as state-sanctioned, legally-binding marriages.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 5:46:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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surrender


22 posted on 01/24/2014 5:57:31 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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No, I am absolutely on board with this.

Look, the SCOTUS IS going to rule against the family, regardless of what Kennedy specifically wrote in the DOMA decision. He is all gay all day and is going to try and force this upon the country.

The way we can actually win against the Gaystapo is threefold.

A) This gets rid of any state recognition of their union whatsoever. No getting sworn into the state senate with your butt-buddy etc.

B) It heads off future attempts to mandate churches to perform such unions

C) It strips out the benefits they crave. You can get any kind of marriage benefits you want to families without mentioning marriage directly, linking it to biological child-rearing for example.

We should get behind this effort before the Feds rule through the judges and force us to cave. Remember, this is only temporary. Once we take over the country, or parts secede (one of which is almost inevitable at this point). Once that happens, we can do as we wish.


26 posted on 01/24/2014 6:10:40 PM PST by Viennacon
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It’s a fascinating response to the grasping black-robed dictators.

Very similar to the Montgomery Bus Boycott.


28 posted on 01/24/2014 6:21:18 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Because some people in government are now hostile to marriage as God defined it, in order to protect godly marriage we must remove the power of the State to define and regulate marriage. Then anyone will be perfectly free to enter into whatever relationship they want. However, they will not be able to call upon the police power of the state to force me to recognize a “marriage” that I don’t want to accept.

Lesbians can marry each other, but they won’t be able to force me to sell them wedding cake or artfully photograph their “marriage”. They will be free to do as they please without demanding that I approve of it.

But clearly, homosexuals want to force me to approve of what they do, which I cannot do. And that is the thing that makes them so furious.


40 posted on 01/24/2014 6:33:57 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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I think its a great idea. Everyone equal. No “Marriage penalty”. Most importantly, no state issued permit, aka marriage license.


45 posted on 01/24/2014 6:45:52 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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I think he’s on the right track. The State shouldn’t be in the business of licensing marriage at all. Period.


49 posted on 01/24/2014 8:00:46 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Marriage has not always been under the purview of “the state.” That’s why old church documents contain the records of marriages over many centuries. In more primitive cultures, a ceremony before the community (tribe, village, etc) resulted in “marriage.”


51 posted on 01/24/2014 8:23:24 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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Nobody goes full-bore Commie Manifesto without being a commie. Mike Turner’s been out of the RINO closet for some time, but this is pure CPUSA.


61 posted on 01/25/2014 11:29:09 AM PST by Olog-hai
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