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Dana Loesch On Mandatory Mental Exams For NY Public School Students
The Right Scoop ^ | 1/18/2014 | Caleb Howe

Posted on 01/18/2014 9:25:43 AM PST by absentee

In New York, a bill has been proposed by Democrat Assemblywoman Margaret Markey that would require all public school students to undergo mental health exams, more than once, in order to attend.

Loesch points out how this fits into a larger picture that is forming with Common Core requirements and various state legislatures across the country. Schools are collecting information such as parental political affiliations, firearm ownership, religious affiliations, and other forms of data mining. She also poses the important question of who would pay for this. Is it going to be yet another financial burden for low and middle income families imposed by the busybody state?

Interference in the family unit and absolute disregard for privacy are becoming de rigeur in America on two fronts. We have the safety and security minded, hoping to prevent tragedy though screening, and we have the we know what’s best crowd, creating a better tomorrow by shrinking soda sizes, seizing sodium, and generally aiming to clothe Americans in the bubble wrap of a federal government that’s just “looking out for their best interests.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arth; childrenofthestate; commoncore; datacollection; education; government; margaretmarkey; mentalexams; nannystate; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkschools; overreach; studentmentalexams
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1 posted on 01/18/2014 9:25:43 AM PST by absentee
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To: absentee

How about for the teachers?


2 posted on 01/18/2014 9:27:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: absentee

Mental exams for Democracks would be a good idea.


3 posted on 01/18/2014 9:29:11 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: absentee

Loesch points out how this fits into a larger picture that is forming with Common Core. Parents wake up NAZI common core is the ability to recruit your children to spy on you and your personel business


4 posted on 01/18/2014 9:30:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: absentee

The shrink lobby is behind this.


5 posted on 01/18/2014 9:30:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: absentee
So....to their way of thinking parental political affiliations, firearm ownership, & religious affiliations, are signs of mental instability.
6 posted on 01/18/2014 9:32:02 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: absentee
Dana Loesch On Mandatory Mental Exams For NY Public School Students

I dunknow, it seems you would have to be insane to willingly go to a NY public skewl.

7 posted on 01/18/2014 9:34:02 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Steely Tom

The Marxists in the Gov-Education complex are slowly taking away our rights and freedoms. WAKE up America.


8 posted on 01/18/2014 9:38:31 AM PST by ully2
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To: Navy Patriot

Most states require a written approval by the parents to do this.


9 posted on 01/18/2014 9:38:48 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: absentee

Insanity is an absolute prerequisite to live in New York!


10 posted on 01/18/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ully2

It seems the only group allowed to be “profiled” will be young students? In truth, profiling could be a good thing, what if someone, (other than his clueless/pathologically permissive mom) had “profiled” Adam Lanza? It’s a can of worms, however, because many kids are screwballs when teens, but perhaps the really gonzo ones like Lanza could at least be found? But then the absurdity of the “no profiling” crap w/regards to terrorists juxtaposed to this is glaring.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 9:46:06 AM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yeah! You will have to prove you are crazy in order to attend the school....

Heh heh heh heh heh

What a crazy concept. This ought to be just laughed away to shame, IMHO. Getting in high dudgeon gives it more seriousness than it deserves. GENERALLY it works better to see if someone actually ACTS crazy before being concerned whether the person IS crazy. This would be a jackpot for the screening people. Big makework project. Aside from the ethical issues.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 9:49:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Oldexpat
Most states require a written approval by the parents to do this.

Well, that's encouraging. In the mean time it's like playing that street game, three shells and a pea, in trying to find the winning school/state that doesn't violate the rights of the parent.

13 posted on 01/18/2014 9:57:52 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: absentee
I'm glad there's no possible way that this idea could be abused for political purposes.
14 posted on 01/18/2014 9:59:14 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Great link, Slings and Arrows.


15 posted on 01/18/2014 10:29:20 AM PST by absentee
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To: absentee

Orang County, CA has had mental Heath exams and treatment for Special Ed students for at least 25 years. Some students actually are actually observed at school on a monthly basis by social workers and county mental health workers. They also offer counseling to parents and family members to help in coping with difficult students. It’s a good program, but it should be extended to include all students.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 10:39:59 AM PST by Eva
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Insanity is an absolute prerequisite to live in New York!

No it's not.

They'll train...

17 posted on 01/18/2014 10:44:22 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: absentee; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; CottShop; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; ...

Another reason for the separation of School and State.


18 posted on 01/18/2014 10:46:16 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: Slings and Arrows

Just wait for “sluggish schizophrenia” diagnoses to appear. The carard was created by the Soviet Union, and at the time no one outside of the Soviet Bloc recognized it.


19 posted on 01/18/2014 10:49:50 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: absentee

"By psychopolitics our chief goals are effectively carried forward. To produce a maximum of chaos in the culture of the enemy is our first most important step. Our fruits are grown in chaos, distrust, economic depression and scientific turmoil.... With it you can erase our enemies as insects... Use the courts, use the judges, use the Constitution of the country, use its medical societies and its laws to further our ends.... create chaos. Leave a nation leaderless. Kill our enemies. And bring to Earth, through Communism, the greatest peace Man has ever known...." -- Lavrentii Beria, Lenin University, in a 1933 address to a group of American/Marxist Psychology Students.

20 posted on 01/18/2014 10:57:11 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: absentee
Well, I hear that NY has a repub legislature.

Let's hope they have what it takes to block what's coming.

21 posted on 01/18/2014 10:57:17 AM PST by what's up
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To: absentee; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

This one is so bad, that it deserves to have both lists pinged.

Homeschoolers need to know what they're missing out on. IOW, what they're protecting their children from.

22 posted on 01/18/2014 11:22:18 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: what's up

It hasn’t done us any good up to this point...


23 posted on 01/18/2014 11:25:08 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: absentee; neverdem; The Mayor; Behind Liberal Lines

NY Ping.


24 posted on 01/18/2014 11:25:42 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: absentee; Steely Tom; theothercheek; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; ...
This whole idea of a state entity forcing children to undergo psychiatric examinations with or without their or their parents' consent carries with it the great possibility of abuse on the part the state. School children who express ideas or disclose facts that run counter to the politically correct, statist "norms," as well as their parents, can be labeled abnormal and subjected to a wide variety of sanctions - starting with re-education programs - from the government, which can negatively affect their lives. (On the other hand, children who disclose, for example some tendencies that are encouraged by the state, e.g., homosexuality, could be rewarded.)

The idea of mandatory psychiatric examinations for schoolchildren, or something similar to it, is and was routine in totalitarian regimes like the USSR, and was used as a tool to detect dissidents and dissident families, who would suffer nightmarish consequences.

25 posted on 01/18/2014 11:48:33 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Fred Hayek

Got it in one.


26 posted on 01/18/2014 11:52:33 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: absentee

Thanks. When it comes to bad ideas, Ecclesiastes 1:9 nails it.


27 posted on 01/18/2014 11:55:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Take this together with Andrew Cuomo’s statement that there is no room in NY for pro-life people, and you get a clear picture of what is going on.

Who said the Holocaust could never happen again? History repeats itself over and over again when people fail to learn from the past.


28 posted on 01/18/2014 12:05:03 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: absentee

Oh how easy this is for them. Mental Health Exams for kids to attend school...and if they ain’t quite right in the head according to the government?

Wow...the ramifications of our kids losing their protected Rights is incredible!

Suddenly there’s a whole generation of kids with mental health issues/records that follow them into adulthood. Too disturbed to vote, own a gun, have free speech, ....WOW!


29 posted on 01/18/2014 12:12:05 PM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: absentee

By declaring all the students as mentally unstable you can have total gun control plus all kinds of other stuff.


30 posted on 01/18/2014 12:23:06 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: absentee

Looking for latent conservatism, in order to “cure” it.


31 posted on 01/18/2014 12:24:48 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: absentee

Democrat Assemblywoman Margaret “Malarkey” Markey is one creepy totalitarian...

So many dems are nowadays...


32 posted on 01/18/2014 12:33:47 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: justiceseeker93
This whole idea of a state entity forcing children to undergo psychiatric examinations with or without their or their parents' consent...

It seems like Roberts' sanctioning of the government's forcing of people to purchase a product has gone to the next step.

Local governments are now emboldened to force their citizenry to do all sorts of things against their wishes.

-PJ

33 posted on 01/18/2014 1:06:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Steely Tom

Yeah, do the staff first.


34 posted on 01/18/2014 1:12:39 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: GOPJ

Margaret Markey is married to a NYC judge.


35 posted on 01/18/2014 1:29:19 PM PST by Nothing could be finer (What David Dinkins did for NYC Obama is doing to the USA)
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To: justiceseeker93; mazda77; vette6387; sheik yerbouty; Nachum; unkus; tgusa; Doogle; Foolsgold; ...

Welcome to a redo of Germany in the 1930’s. Never Again? Think Again.


36 posted on 01/18/2014 4:20:27 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SandRat; ronnie raygun; absentee; Steely Tom; butterdezillion; Seizethecarp; LibertyRocks; ml/nj; ..
So....to their way of thinking parental political affiliations, firearm ownership, & religious affiliations, are signs of mental instability.

Exactly, plus other items that could likely be on the school psychologist's check list. Anything politically incorrect could be cause for the child and/or his parents to undergo "re-education," and if that fails...well, there's always a new FEMA(?) facility not that far away which will provide dissidents with food and shelter, if they're lucky.

It's happened before: think USSR, China, North Korea, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, etc., etc.

37 posted on 01/18/2014 4:31:34 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: CMailBag
Mental exams for Democracks would be a good idea.

News flash: They give the tests. They determine who is “normal” and who is an insane right wing, gun owning, bitter clinger.

38 posted on 01/18/2014 4:42:56 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: absentee

Don’t SAT tests, etc already do that?


39 posted on 01/18/2014 5:47:34 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: null and void

Re “Insanity is an absolute prerequisite to live in New York!”

For many,yes. Others are trapped there because they inherited a house that they cannot either sell or want to leave (so it can stay in the family. My friend is in exactly that situation).

However, it looks like the Left “trained” enough low education, no-education, welfare addicts and liberal assholes (not to mention the major number of reds of all types who live and operate there), to get Sandinista marxist supporter DeBlasio elected mayor (his wife is now the City’s First Marxist Lady), and the new head of the City Council is a Puerto Rican marxist woman.

The Nazis had nothing on the Communists. All they did was shout louder, monopolize the mainstream media, and harass or kill their real or imagined opponents.

Reminds me of someone and some Party presently in control of our country, in DC. Can’t think of their names right now but it is in the vicinity of “D” and “O” in the alphabet. It’ll come to me, maybe before they march me off to some “mental health clinic”, just like my relatives in Austria were marched off to a “health facility” named Auschwitz for “showers in the 1940’s.

Why do I feel like I’ve seen this scenario before?

“Knock! Knock! Knock!”


40 posted on 01/18/2014 9:55:17 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: absentee
“looking out for their best interests.”

...while charging you a fee

41 posted on 01/18/2014 10:21:35 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: absentee

Just remember that leftists consider conservatism a mental illness http://reason.com/archives/2004/10/20/pathologizing-conservatism


42 posted on 01/19/2014 12:40:14 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Indeed. And expect renewed government interest in the returns of any certifiably conservative kids.


43 posted on 01/19/2014 1:36:52 AM PST by Mach9
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To: ExTexasRedhead

How about mandatory mental exams for politicians?


44 posted on 01/19/2014 4:49:44 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU

So who is going to do a mental exam on those doing the mental exams? Psychiatrists and psychologists aren’t known as the most stable members of society.


45 posted on 01/19/2014 7:11:13 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


46 posted on 01/19/2014 11:13:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: absentee

They will use the information from the children to spy on the parents!


47 posted on 01/20/2014 9:12:46 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: absentee

Okay folks...Reason #388 that public schools are toast, and can never be reclaimed.


48 posted on 01/21/2014 2:31:59 PM PST by gogeo (The Republican Party is not ours, it is theirs.)
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