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myself vanity | 1/16/2004 | myself

Posted on 01/16/2014 7:30:34 AM PST by estrogen

is this possible?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: impeachment
If we win the Senate and hold the House.....can we start impeachment proceedings?
1 posted on 01/16/2014 7:30:34 AM PST by estrogen
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To: estrogen

Would require the drafting of articles of impeachment, and I don’t think any of the Republicans have the stomach to do that.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 7:31:33 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: estrogen

Yes, certainly. It only takes a vote in the House of Representatives. They are the indicters. The Senate is they Jury. It would end up the same as Clinton, IF you could even scare up enough RINOS to have the cojones to even indict him.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 7:33:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rarestia

Not while Obama’s point-man is Speaker. The House Republicans have been neutralized by Boehner, and they like it.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 7:33:40 AM PST by Ray76
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To: estrogen

Don’t bother to impeach unless there is the ability to remove.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 7:34:00 AM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: estrogen
The only way he will be removed is if enough congressional democrats feel threatened in losing their seats.
6 posted on 01/16/2014 7:34:58 AM PST by AU72
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To: estrogen

Sure, we can start it, but it’s impossible for us to get the votes to remove him from office.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 7:35:57 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: estrogen
Possible? Anything's "possible" you could win the Lottery...

OTOH, is it "probable" or "likely"???

NOT!!

8 posted on 01/16/2014 7:36:28 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: estrogen

We could impeach — we certainly have grounds — but even if we took the Senate, we could not convict. That requires a 2/3 majority in the Upper House and as we saw during the Clinton debacle, the Dems will always vote as a bloc when one of their own is threatened. While taking a majority in the Senate isn’t impossible, getting a 2/3 majority is.

Better use of our resources would be to increase our lead in the House and use it to cut funding for the socialist schemes of this administration. And to start investigating odumbo’s many flagrant abuses.


9 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:25 AM PST by IronJack
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To: estrogen
It will take 67 votes inthe Senate to convict. I don't see how we ever get to a place where he can be convicted. But I still think that obama should be impeached. He has violated the Constitution at every opportunity.

A lot of people are afraid that impeachment may make obama look like a martyr to the Tea Party. They point to Clinton and his popularity in spite of his impeachment. But impeachment made Clinton a victim to many people and helped raise his favorability among the low info majority. But obama's crimes are a different story. People are now being harmed by his actions and his popularity is dropping like a stone. He's recently said that he's going to do whatever he wants regardless of what Congress says or does. The only way to stop him is to bring his crimes to the forefront and expose them to the people. We can do that NOW and we should!

10 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:58 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: estrogen

As Napoleon once said, ““When you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna.” .................


11 posted on 01/16/2014 7:38:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: estrogen

No, not possible, because he’s the first black president.

Next question?


12 posted on 01/16/2014 7:39:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: estrogen

And get Biden instead?

Forget that.


13 posted on 01/16/2014 7:41:13 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: estrogen

Not enough spines, stomaches or patriotism to convict unfortunately.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 7:43:06 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: estrogen

Impeachment sends a message that enough is enough...too much already. Even if not convicted the reputation and the flexibility of Obama and those around him that allowed and promoted these aberrations would be damaged. IMHO its always worth a try.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 7:46:50 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: estrogen

the NSA has collected enough data on EVERYBIDY that those in elected office are likely petrified that the regime has enough “goods” on them to end their careers

I doubt that there is anyone who doesnt have some private...sun theyd not care to have splashed across the MSM headlines.

the NSA data is O’s Insurance!


16 posted on 01/16/2014 7:48:10 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: AU72

Bingo....this is really the only way...real longshot but possible!!!


17 posted on 01/16/2014 7:49:02 AM PST by ontap
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To: estrogen

First off, we need to have real Leadership on the House. The Hearings on the Articles of Impeachment could begin today and the vote to actually Impeach Obama would likely not happen until a year from now.

By that time, we could very possibly have the Senate back under Conservative (American) control which could make Conviction and Removal from Office a reality.

The upside of beginning Hearings now would have a number of benefits that I could list. One being that Congressional Approval Ratings would vastly improve for the Conservatives who have up to this point seemed to be feckless wimps that roll over and play dead with each Abuse of Power that Obama commits.

Another benefit would be that Obama and his minions would be occupied with fighting against each and every facet of the Hearings process that they would not feeling that they can Abuse Power with total impunity.

Further, I believe that once the Hearings got underway, there would be a ground swell of support that the Media could not ignore or cover up. Eventually, even the $5 dollar brains covered by $500 rugs would have to start facing the Reality that Obama is NOT fit to continue as POTUS.

Just my honest and humble opinion.


18 posted on 01/16/2014 7:49:11 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: estrogen

I could happen now. Not a cold day in hells chance though.


19 posted on 01/16/2014 7:49:47 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: estrogen

If the Republicans hold the proper majorities in the House and Senate, they would be far better to use those majorities to simply pass un-vetoable bills undoing all of the socialism enacted and signed in the prior 6 years.

Like it or not, there’s just no way the left (I’m especially including the media here) would allow them to impeach “our first black pResident (TM)”.

And even if they did impeach (and remove), what then? All the laws that were enacted and modified by Executive action would still be in place. All the political capital would be expended on removal.

We need the laws undone, regardless of The Dear Leader’s status.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 7:49:50 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: estrogen

Possible, but not probable. The lying, marxist LSMs are too invested in “their boy” to allow that to happen, plus the House and Senate don’t have the spines/guts/stones for it. 3 more years of hell to go.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 7:50:02 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: rarestia

Republicans, the party impeachment, of lynchings, starving the poor, and raping women. These would be the first talking points then blood would run in the streets of America and the Republicans would be the party that caused riots and murder. I don’t think anyone would have the stomach.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 7:50:27 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Don Corleone

Like it damaged Bill Clinton? The MSM will cover his a$$ no matter what!!!


23 posted on 01/16/2014 7:51:16 AM PST by ontap
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To: AppyPappy
And get Biden instead?

You are correct.

The only thing I can think of that would be worse than the obama-idiot-in-the-white-hut is the biden-idiot-in-the-white-hut.

Biden is so damned ungodly stupid that we would probably have even worse government than the idiot obama has foisted upon us.

24 posted on 01/16/2014 7:51:31 AM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: estrogen
Sure, it's possible, but there is nothing the democrats would like better than for us to impeach Bambi.

It would get their base riled up, the media would have the best time in a decade beating up on the dwatted wacist wepubwicans.

It's a lose, lose, lose proposition.

25 posted on 01/16/2014 7:53:54 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: estrogen
question on impeachment, is this possible?

No.

26 posted on 01/16/2014 7:55:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: OldSmaj

Worse, Biden knows what he is doing. Which would be a real problem. Of course, I think he is pulling the strings anyway.


27 posted on 01/16/2014 7:59:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: estrogen

It would take a 2/3 majority in the Senate, which is impossible (i.e., even if we* win EVERY Senate race this year—which won’t happen—we would still be a vote or two short).

*note: by “we,” I mean the GOP, even though it’s likely that not every GOP senator would vote to convict. Just one more reason it’s impossible.


28 posted on 01/16/2014 8:01:11 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Gaffer

Obama would not be impeached on the basis of one lie about his sexual pecadillos. He is guilty of violating the constitution, underming the Republic and violating his oath of office - TWICE.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 8:07:09 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: estrogen

We COULD. But it will NEVER happen to the “first BLACK President”.

Unfortunately. Not gonna happen.


30 posted on 01/16/2014 8:08:23 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: estrogen

He can be impeached now. Impeachment is just a trial. It is fact finding. The Democrats fight it because they know it will affect their PARTY. This just proves that they place the Democrat party ahead of their COUNTRY.
The purpose of the Democrat party is to elect thieves to office so that they can have access to the public treasuries in order to loot them.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 8:12:32 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: AU72

With the unfolding train wreck of Obamacare anything is possible including Dem’s who watched (past tense,i.e., after the elections this fall) in horror the un-election of Hagan, Warner, et. al., as a result of 40-50 million losing their insurance over the course of the coming year.


32 posted on 01/16/2014 8:26:13 AM PST by quantumman
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To: MrB

Agree.


33 posted on 01/16/2014 8:33:06 AM PST by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: estrogen

It might be if we’d support these people & their efforts

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/14/black-citizens-group-files-articles-impeachment-against-obama

(National Black Republicans Association filed articles of impeachment


34 posted on 01/16/2014 8:33:25 AM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: estrogen

Impeachment (in the House) and any subsequent trial (by the Senate) is a political response to presidential actions, regardless of the “high crimes and misdemeanors” phrase. There is not sufficient political will among the Republican members of the House of Representatives to seriously consider it, let alone carry it out. Nor is the coming mid-term election likely to change that, though it could well bring other advantages.


35 posted on 01/16/2014 8:55:10 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: estrogen
The problem with impeachment is that it presupposes and, in fact, affirms that the person legitimately acquired the office. Anyone who acquires an elected office, but was never qualified to do so in the first place has committed criminal fraud and deceit in the electoral process making the election illegitimate and a nullity in the inception. The remedy against someone who fraudulently gains office is to prosecute the unlawful offender for fraud. Obviously, in a totally corrupt political environment, the political hurdles existing for impeachment also prevail for prosecution. A special prosecutor needs to be appointed. If that power has been ceded to the Executive Branch, it needs to be taken back to the Legislative Branch.
36 posted on 01/16/2014 10:14:26 AM PST by iontheball
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To: estrogen

Absolutely go ahead and impeach — TODAY!!

The impeachment itself will be embarrassing as hell, whether or not (most likely not) that the Senate votes to convict. And the impeachment becomes part of the historical record, win or lose.

But don’t forget there’s a big election coming up! Ain’t NO candidate for Senate who wants to be known for voting to let Obummer off the hook for his shenanigans! And yes, we will be taking names!


37 posted on 01/16/2014 11:00:08 AM PST by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Don Corleone

It will tie up the progression of any of his new policies. He might have to actually prepare himself for impeachment and that will destroy his free time.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 11:38:19 AM PST by windcliff
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To: estrogen
Three things make impeachment impossible: First, the RINO leadership of the GOP doesn't have the gonads to do it regardless of what Obama does to deserve being impeached. Second, as they did with Clinton the Democrats will stand shoulder to shoulder to defend Obama. If they could defend Clinton's patent perjury in a sordid sexual affair they could defend anything Obama might do. Lastly, the media would rally to Obama blaming the GOP impeachment as being racist, a witch hunt,a threat to democracy etc.

I am convinced that Obama could suspend elections and declare himself dictator with little more than a whimper from the GOP leadership and do so to the applause of Democrats and the media.

39 posted on 01/16/2014 12:05:09 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: estrogen

Though legal, no legislator would dare begin the impechment of our first black PRESIDENT.

Call it the fear factor.


40 posted on 01/16/2014 2:36:06 PM PST by wildbill
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To: estrogen

The House could start impeachment proceedings right now but the Senate will never try it.

Until we get the Semate back I prefer just threatening to impeach the POS over this executive order thing. Barry is like a spoiled unruly child. He acts out and then waits to see if anybody responds. If not then he acts out even worse. Thats what he was doing yesterday or whenever with the I’ve got a phone and a pen carpola. Now he is waiting to see if there is going to be any blowback. If not he will start with the illegal executive orders. Boehner needs to openly threaten him with impeachment. He would prolly back down.

Look what happned on the Syrian thing. The legislators had a coronary about attacking Syria and Bam backed down. The Pentgon basically told him no. There is a great deal of speculation that the Pentagon has taken the nuclear football away from him.

I think the guy is so incompetent that if we get the Senate back next year they should skip impeachment and just invoke the 25th ammendment and remove him.


41 posted on 01/16/2014 5:11:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: estrogen

Question: is this possible?

Answer: 67


42 posted on 01/16/2014 5:12:20 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: estrogen

No.
He is a dictator.


43 posted on 01/16/2014 5:24:31 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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