Posted on 12/13/2013 2:57:59 AM PST by markomalley
Look at their demographics. China will be old before it gets “rich”. Plus despite their high GDP, much of which is fake as in government misallocated capital, their economy isn’t in good shape. Their housing bubble has yet to burst.
That’s why the Chinese political class is getting belligerent. They’re desperate.
“Chinese garbage scow.....this is the USS Cowpens. Drop your garbage to the bottom of the ocean and get out of our way, or we’ll help you get your garbage to the bottom of the ocean.”
You may have just hit upon a humongous sponsorship opportunity.
With proceeds going to ‘the children’, who could object?
You can thank Barack OCarter and his campaign of appeasement for this carpola. Weakness always invites agression.
Have you seen China’s national debt?
(oh that’s right, China runs a surplus)
A big surplus.
With AMERICA.
Do you have a rodent problem?
I see mousey dung!
What is the equivalent to splash one in naval terms to sinking a ship.
>Bring back US manufacturing now.<
To do so, the Unions and the Democrats must be neutered by the voters. With them in power, the country cannot compete with slave labor like that found in China.
Sadly, the majority of voters here are in it for me, me, me, not what is in the best interests of the country.
Folks
You are either misinformed or missing the point.
Do not assume the Chinese Government, (either the Princelings or Old Guard) are completely in charge.
There are large elements of the PLA/(N)/(AF) that are not in control of the nominal Chinese Government, but junior officers acting rather local “Warlords”. These actions cannot be properly examined using the filter of US experience and concept of Civil control of the Military. The situation in China is now much closer to the historical period of Japan in the 1920’s and we know how that worked out.
These tests by the PLAN are simply that tests and are as one here correctly pointed out assuring freedom of the seas is the number two task on the official task list of the USN only behind defending the Dominions and territories of the US in our doctrines of Seapower and Alfred Thayer Mahan.
It is most probable that these actions are taking place to force the Princelings and Old Guard to give these junior elements a greater share of the wealth that is being generated and concentrated at the top of the party.
Instead of concentrating on free trade and such we need to look at our real enemy, the junior cadre, lest we, in typical US historical knee jerk fashion react in a way to weaken those who have much more to lose than we do.
Forget about unions.
Unions are way down, and only represent something like 10% of American industrial workers anymore.
America needs industry.
Bring back American industry.
“Have you seen China’s national debt?”
China is one of the world’s most indebted nations. It’s just that most of the debt is local government debt.
They may run a trade surplus (tho’ even that is quite small now), but they have tons of debt.
Don't misunderstand me..I'm not defending the Chicoms here..Red China is obviously attempting to project forces, likely sensing a weakening of American resolve.
The real danger is if a Chicom on-site commander loses it...then an incident can easily happen, and escalate rapidly..
>Forget about unions.
Unions are way down, and only represent something like 10% of American industrial workers anymore.<
Unions, then, have no influence on American politics, policy.
Good luck with that.
If you did, you'd reveal a woeful ignorance of the Revolutionary War. Go ahead ... look it up.
I will make it plain. I will make it simple. As a combat veteran, I will say one thing about our so called commander in chief. He is a pure coward. He is a clown. I would not follow him to DisneyWorld. He is a simple minded puke. Sometimes when you walk across the yard, you step in him and curse out loud and have to clean off the smelly Obama from your shoe. End of statement.
USS Cowpens (CG-63) is a Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser in service with the United States Navy.
Armament:
2 × 61 cell Mk 41 vertical launch systems
122 × Mix of RIM-66M-5 Standard SM-2MR Block IIIB, RIM-156A SM-2ER Block IV, RIM-161 SM-3, RIM-162A ESSM, RIM-174A Standard ERAM, BGM-109 Tomahawk, or RUM-139A VL-ASROC
8 × RGM-84 Harpoon missiles
2 × Mk 45 Mod 2 5 in / 54 cal lightweight gun
2 × 25 mm Mk 38 gun
2–4 × .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun
2 × Phalanx CIWS Block 1B
2 × Mk 32 12.75 in (324 mm) triple torpedo tubes for lightweight torpedoes
The big question here is not the ships involved, but the boats. Specifically submarines. You can bet your bottom dollar that at least one of the ships had one or more submarines backing them up.
Are you clear on what a national debt is? China doesn’t have a national debt with America.
I do like discussing important ideas, but you don’t even or can’t even get your basic facts correct. It makes it hard to take you seriously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
China, like the US, is running a government budget deficit:
http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/china
http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/china
China owns about 8% of the $14 trillion plus US debt.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/ss/How-Much-US-Debt-Does-China-Own.htm
This has been explained to you repeatedly, but you don’t seem able to comprehend it. Ping me once you’ve learned the difference between government debt (real) and a trade deficit (imaginary).
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