Posted on 12/13/2013 2:57:59 AM PST by markomalley
no, it’s clear he’s losing the argument by making such inane statements as calling me a Mao lover, a lover of income taxes, and claiming that free trade is a liberal progressive policy.
I do not suffer fools….sorry, I don’t. it’s how I’m wired, ignorance paired with arrogance ticks the hell outta me…..
President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping agreed to seek a new type of major power relationship during a summit in California earlier this year. However, the exact nature of the new relationship remains unclear.
If it’s like the relationship between democrats and
the GOPe we are so screwed.
We (America) currently owe 17 trillion dollars, and growing rapidly.
Bring back American industry.
You are either lying or woefully, perhaps intentionally, ignorant about American manufacturing. Can you be taught? Can you learn, via reading and comprehending?
It is shocking that for so long (8 years?) you’ve remained completely ignorant about US trade, the truth about trade “deficits”, US manufacturing, capitalism and liberty, real conservatism.
My suspicion is that you’re a deep mole, planted by CNN. Some people you just can’t reach and, consistently, they’re liberals.
you’re not going to ram the LST with a cruiser. the captain would be out of command in a minute. both ships would be heavily damaged.
Not if you knew US history.
“This kind of stuff happened all the time back in the early eighties in the Indian Ocean — except in those days we were harassed by Russian Krivak destroyers.”
The Cowpens is one of our most powerful surface combatants and air-defense cruisers.
My guss is, that as the Chinese carrier and its four escorts came down from their home port and transited through the Straits of Fromosa (where they took care to remain on their side of the line), the entetred the South China Sea and the US sent the Copens to shadow her.
Why the Cowpens? She is usally part of a US CSG of which there were two in the vicinity at the time (at least a couple of hundred miels off if not more), and she is not usually what you would call a surveillance ship...though she has plenty of sensors to act as one.
she was probably simply the nearest vessel at the time. I bet there was at least one US SSN nearby, and probably at leas one other surface vessel.
Anyhow, she may have ha dorders to see how close, in international waters, she could get to the Liaoning. The CHinese decided she had gotten close enough and warned her off. The Copens CO decided he could get closer.
There is no way that lumbering Type 72 LST got in front of her and "stopped." Takes far too long for that, and long before she came to a dead stop the Cowpens could easily manuever out of the way. My guess (again) was that the LST manuevered from some time in advance, to block the Cowpens from gettting closer to their carrier.
It is true that that LST has a couple of twin 37mm gun monuts. And at close range, those weapons could hurt the Cowpens. But the Cowpens has two 127mm naval gun monuts, two 25mmm gun mounts, and two 20mm Phlanx mounts, not to mention 4-5 .50 cal mounts. Along with eight Harpoon Missiles. There was not a danger of gun play IMHO.
These are the types of games that are played between large sea powers that have conflicting interests.
I do nt see anything highly irregular here...except that instead of one of our smaller, less well armed surveillance ships, we sent a cruiser to do the job.
Just my two cents.
“...I’d probably tease anyone that named their boat “Cowpens” at least a little....”
Cowpens was a victory for us, over the Brits/Government forces under Col. Banastre Tarleton, in South Carolina, 1781.
Kicking his Legion’s collective ass was a pretty big deal back in the day.
So it’s kind of fitting to name a ship after a Revolutionary War victory... sorta like the USS Bunker Hill.
Just sayin’...
No I am not a mole.
I am however very concerned with the future of America.
We have exported so many US jobs that I now go into (any) American shopping establishment and see nothing but Chinese made goods in any department.
Hardware. Clothing. Fishing equipment. Sporting goods. Everything is made in China.
Everything.
We continue to buy ever more Chinese made ... goods ... and to fire ever more American workers.
No I am not a mole.
America is heading full-speed to ruin.
Bring back American jobs now.
the POSOTUS will bow to his overlords....
... even though Bunker Hill wasn’t technically a victory, our folks still put up a hell of a fight there...
That’s what people (including myself) have tried to explain to you for years: we could create a million jobs tomorrow, and it won’t make a damn bit of difference because our government spends more than $1.40 for every $1.00 it receives.
I agree we have problems larger than importing everything in every store, in every town, in every county, in every state, in all of America.
But that is a very significant place to start.
Because it is rapidly destroying everything good about America.
Bring back US jobs now.
Well, technically, Bunker Hill was a British victory, but a very costly one that proved the colonists could stand and fight. Then again, we’ve had 2 USS Antietams, and that battle was a draw. Notable is an old escort carrier USS Savo Island (CVE-78). She was named for a battle won by the Japanese!
I believe that every single officer in the military is going to eventually have to make decisions involving choices between doing the right thing and sacrificing his career.
I wonder which is the lesser of two evils, a gay acting secretary of the AF or a ball bashing woman. Goodby A-10
I also don’t know how much more humiliation our military will take. They have to be about to explode.
Let me rephrase, then: That’s what people (including myself) have tried to explain to you for years: we could import nothing in every store, in every town, in every county, in every [S]tate, in all of America, and it won’t make a damn bit of difference because our government spends more than $1.40 for every $1.00 it receives.
I love your insight. You are amazing. Thank you Jeff.
“...but a very costly one that proved the colonists could stand and fight. ..”
Precisely; Bunker Hill is a place where we refused to back down and kept punching them in the mouth repeatedly until we couldn’t punch anymore, then retreated to fight another day.
Same with the USS BATAAN...
Cowpens was an important victory over a British officer and his Legion that the Rebels hated. He put a lot of captured/surrendered Patriots to the sword. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to hang the guy.
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