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NTSB: Train going too fast at curve before wreck
Seattle PI ^ | December 2, 2013 | JIM FITZGERALD & FRANK ELTMAN - AP

Posted on 12/02/2013 2:36:45 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo; a fool in paradise

“Hey Johnny, look at this neat trick...”


41 posted on 12/02/2013 4:33:56 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
What fool was driving that train?

and why was he wearing a fireman's hat?

42 posted on 12/02/2013 4:36:13 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Too funny! Didn’t hear much about that tragedy, also haven’t heard from Willie Green in quite a while, maybe he’s too busy laying down rail for the high speed train in CA.


43 posted on 12/02/2013 4:40:51 PM PST by Fair Paul
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To: Fair Paul

Don’t bother Googling my fictional accounts and Willie just wants to ride the rails and grease the skids.


44 posted on 12/02/2013 4:49:46 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: trisham

This train crashed after the load it was carrying shifted. It was carrying two carloads of bitcoins...


45 posted on 12/02/2013 4:51:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Cicero
Sounds like something went wrong with the Engineer.

I'll bet the Engineer is an Affirmative Action Hire.

That something went wrong long ago, probably even before the train was built.

46 posted on 12/02/2013 4:58:46 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: Cicero

The place where the cars rolled onto was right at the corner where two rivers meet. It was a miracle none of them went into either one.


47 posted on 12/02/2013 5:03:19 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: jazusamo

I didn’t think a sharp curve was left to the engineer to navigate. Are there not automatic brakes and a navigation system programmed into train routes these days (like auto pilots) so these things cannot happen? Should be.


48 posted on 12/02/2013 5:04:42 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: dan on the right

Maybe he was trying to drift the train into the station?

Kinda like trike drifting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZCZsHJIR8


49 posted on 12/02/2013 5:04:56 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Cicero

Early Sunday morning.

My guess is he nodded off and woke up too late to slow the train before it went off the rails.


50 posted on 12/02/2013 5:06:26 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Revolting cat!

Ridin’ the train...
high on cocaine...


51 posted on 12/02/2013 5:07:00 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

....Casey Jones you’d better, watch your speed....


52 posted on 12/02/2013 5:07:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I'll bet the Engineer is an Affirmative Action Hire.

"The engineer, William Rockefeller, 45, told officials he applied the brakes, but they didn’t respond, a source told the Daily News. Rockefeller was being treated for undisclosed injuries."

Pic of engineer in the following article...

Uncle of derailed Metro-North conductor defends his nephew

53 posted on 12/02/2013 5:07:50 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: rawhide

You must mean the one in Spain.

Video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewHNYOVup9Q


54 posted on 12/02/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: EnquiringMind

Exactly and what a coincidence the same exact thing happened in July in Spain!


55 posted on 12/02/2013 5:12:16 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: jazusamo

If the crash is the engineer’s fault, he should be charged with manslaughter. If the train was functioning properly, there is no legitimate reason for the train going 82 MPH.


56 posted on 12/02/2013 5:16:26 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: EnquiringMind
Are there not automatic brakes and a navigation system programmed into train routes these days (like auto pilots) so these things cannot happen?

ATC is supposedly incorporated into Metro North equipment...

From here:

Signaling and Safety Appliances The Hudson, Harlem and New Haven lines and the New Canaan branch are equipped for cab signaling, and all passenger rolling stock is equipped to receive the cab signal. Cab signaling displays the appropriate block signal in the engineer’s cab. All rolling stock is equipped with Automatic Train Control (ATC). ATC enforces the speed dictated by the cab signal by means of a penalty brake application should the engineer fail to obey it. There are no intermediate wayside signals between interlockings: operation is solely by cab signal. Wayside signals remain at interlockings. These are a special type of signal, a go or a stop signal. They do not convey information about traffic in the blocks ahead - the cab signal conveys block information.

57 posted on 12/02/2013 5:19:56 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: EnquiringMind

In my view you’re right, there’s a lot lives at stake. I know little about trains, planes or ships but ships and planes have crews and I believe safeguards built in that those crews use.


58 posted on 12/02/2013 5:29:56 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: dan on the right

I’m surprised there are not automatic warning alarms on trains when they exceed speeds or are not slowing down appropriately. Hell, my $200 portable garmin navi knows the speed limits on every road I travel and my speed (on the navi) turns red when I exceed the posted limit. How this isn’t incorporated into these trains makes no sense.

Think about it ... do you really need a crew of 4 union members at all ... Ricky the robot could do it all, hence the fatal flaw in you reasoning.


59 posted on 12/02/2013 5:30:18 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi was just a violent RIF action by Hillary and the State Department.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Thanks, looks like I was wrong on that Affirmative Action claim.


60 posted on 12/02/2013 5:32:25 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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