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Hands Off: Will the Feds Keep You From Your Money in Another Crisis?
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2013 | Austin Hill

Posted on 12/01/2013 7:34:16 AM PST by Kaslin

Are U.S. federal government policy makers planning for an economic meltdown? Fiscal and financial news isn’t a particularly sexy topic for broad audiences, even under normal circumstances. And over the Thanksgiving national holiday weekend, about the only news people care to consume are football scores.

But as we enjoyed turkey dinners, shopping, and hopefully some quality time with friends and family – and even in the recent days leading up to the holiday weekend – some major policy ideas and changes have emerged that could keep you away from your personal finances in the face of another meltdown. Americans are rightly angered right now by the disastrous impacts of the Obamacare implementation, but consider what else may lie ahead for our lives, our households, and our livelihoods.

For one, there was the November 25th report in the Financial Times indicating that the U.S. Federal Reserve is considering the possibility of arbitrarily cutting the amount of interest it pays on money that it borrows from private commercial banks. The interest that the government pays when it borrows money from private banks is, understandably, a big revenue stream for those banks. If the Federal Reserve makes this move, banks say they will in turn need to make up for the lost revenue by charging private individuals, households and businesses for depositing money in their accounts.

Let’s be clear about what is under consideration here. Customarily when an individual or an organization puts its money in a bank account, the bank will pay their customer at least some nominal level of interest in exchange for the privilege of possessing the customer’s money for a period of time. In the scenario that the Financial Times reported, some banks would completely reverse this historic bank-customer relationship and charge private individuals and businesses for the privilege of “parking” their money in an account for a time.

Could that create a bit of a backlash against banks? Recall that in March of this year, the dreadfully overspent government of Cyprus arbitrarily chose to impose a tax on all private bank deposits as a means of feeding the government’s never-ending hunger for money. This created a “run” on banks with private citizens rushing to clear out their accounts, which in turn led the government to force private banks to close for about ten days. When the banks re-opened, citizens were only permitted to withdrawal about $383 of their own money each day – a quick-fix that Nobel laureate economist Christopher Pissarides said was “extremely unfair to the little guy.”

The Cyprus crisis – as well as the meltdown of financial systems in Spain and Greece, among other places – may be what led one of President Obama’s appointees to the U.S. Federal Reserve’s board of Governors to propose a means of stopping “bank runs” here in America. According to a November report from Reuters news agency, Dan Tarullo, whose specialty is “financial regulation,” has proposed that banking regulators (like him) need to “supplement prudential banking regulation” with more “policy tools” – i.e., the ability to order banks closed. Tarullo and the other fed Governors are working on a new set of such “policy tools” to be unveiled in 2014.


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1 posted on 12/01/2013 7:34:16 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/01/2013 7:38:21 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kaslin

I’ve tried and tried to explain to those afraid to put money in the stock market that if the markets were ever to suffer another 1929 type crash, that their money in the bank would be worthless too.

I think I read somewhere that at the current value of gold, there is only about 12 trillion in gold in the entire world!

Unless the stock market goes to zero, it is still worth more than cash.


3 posted on 12/01/2013 7:48:55 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: Kaslin
For one, there was the November 25th report in the Financial Times indicating that the U.S. Federal Reserve is considering the possibility of arbitrarily cutting the amount of interest it pays on money that it borrows from private commercial banks. The interest that the government pays when it borrows money from private banks is, understandably, a big revenue stream for those banks. If the Federal Reserve makes this move, banks say they will in turn need to make up for the lost revenue by charging private individuals, households and businesses for depositing money in their accounts.

I highlighted the word "arbitrarily" above, since I'm not sure this would be accurate. The purpose of reducing the interest rate that the Fed pays banks on their reserves is to discourage banks from keeping excess reserves as a revenue stream (rather than lending the money to customers), isn't it?

4 posted on 12/01/2013 7:50:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Beagle8U

If the stock market suffers another 1929-type crash and money in the bank is also worthless, then a lot of people would make out very well because the balances on their outstanding loans would effectively be $0, too.


5 posted on 12/01/2013 7:52:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Kaslin

“May the odds be ever in your favor.”


6 posted on 12/01/2013 7:53:02 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Kaslin

I don’t even trust keeping my money in dollars. I’m thinking Deutchmarks. Probably the most stable currency I can think of.

Needless to say, I am so screwed.


7 posted on 12/01/2013 7:58:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kaslin

What money?


8 posted on 12/01/2013 8:01:27 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Alberta's Child
If the stock market suffers another 1929-type crash and money in the bank is also worthless, then a lot of people would make out very well because the balances on their outstanding loans would effectively be $0, too.

The PO box for payments will remain open, just the teller windows and ATMs will be closed. Old man Potter isn't going to just let the mortgages go unpaid.

The only cash you can count on is the cash in hand, and even that relies on the Fed not counterfeiting it into oblivion.

9 posted on 12/01/2013 8:08:05 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: Lazamataz
I don’t even trust keeping my money in dollars. I’m thinking Deutchmarks. Probably the most stable currency I can think of.

Those are called Euros now that the Germans have hitched themselves to anchors like Greece, Cyprus, Spain and Italy.

Are there enough Swiss francs to go around?

10 posted on 12/01/2013 8:09:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Those I’m talking about have little to no debt and money in the bank they could be investing.


11 posted on 12/01/2013 8:12:03 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: KarlInOhio

I think those countries still have their old currencies.


12 posted on 12/01/2013 8:12:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Let me assure you that nobody who is unable to get cash from his/her bank will have any moral obligation to pay their bills. Mr. Potter knows well that if all of his customers stop making mortgage payments, there aren't enough police officers in Bedford Falls to do anything about it.

The government knows this as well, and will run the printing presses 24/7 to churn out billions of dollars in cash to avoid such a debacle.

13 posted on 12/01/2013 8:12:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Kaslin
Look at what happened in Crete when the government did this...there were riots. In the US I don't think the populous would react much differently especially after the government has taken their health insurance,raised their taxes and eroded their personal liberty. This could be the tipping point when Americans will say they are mad as hell and not going to take this anymore. Obama should be very afraid to try this.
14 posted on 12/01/2013 8:14:00 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Kaslin

anyone that followed the bank lock down in Greece should now know to keep their money in a bank with locations outside of the country, because locations out of the country were not closed and people could pull all their funds out of those branches.

Lesson learned.

If something similar ever happens in the US, I am jumping in my car first thing and heading for the nearest border to withdraw all my money.


15 posted on 12/01/2013 8:17:30 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Alberta's Child
A banker told me that with FDIC insurance the fed is obligated to pay the money back, but they have 30 years to do so. I'm wondering if they could apply that law that is meant for bankrupt banks to all insured savings (assuming the banker wasn't saying that to scare me into an annuity)

Anything they do will scare even more people staying in the stockmarket. I'd think that bubble has to burst sometime. If the stock market starts diving, I'm thinking getting some cash out of the bank account might make sense.

16 posted on 12/01/2013 8:20:19 AM PST by grania
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Don't you think the government will stop withdrawals outside of the US by US citizens. I am pretty sure that they saw what you saw as well.
17 posted on 12/01/2013 8:21:10 AM PST by jimpick
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To: jimpick

The US government has no control over banks located in foreign countries, and can’t stop someone in another country from withdrawing their money from a foreign bank.


18 posted on 12/01/2013 8:25:31 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I am not sure you would be successful. While that bank might have branches outside the US they would probably have to comply. It would be better to put your money in a bank that has no US branches.


19 posted on 12/01/2013 8:30:03 AM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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To: Lazamataz

The lessons of the Great Depression need to be relearned. And fast.


20 posted on 12/01/2013 8:31:35 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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