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Clash of Texas political titans looms (Perry vs Cruz)
Politico ^ | November 11, 2013 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 11/11/2013 4:12:42 AM PST by PJ-Comix

A Texas tussle could be on the 2016 horizon.

Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Rick Perry are both angling to run for president. And the prospect of a clash between the two Texas-sized egos who represent different eras of the GOP – and who aren’t openly rivals but haven’t betrayed warm fuzzies for one another, either – has tongues wagging.

“It would be the battle of the titans,” said Steve Munisteri, chairman of the Texas Republican Party. “They are both very popular here. Obviously Ted Cruz is riding a wave of immense popularity, but I think the governor has a lot of residual goodwill.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: rickperry; tedcruz
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Puhlease! I like Rick Perry but he is a horrible debater as we saw. Maybe he won't stumble over his own words so badly next time but Ted Cruz is an incredible debater. Every confrontation he has with liberals, he comes out way ahead. Cruz was also rated the BEST college debater when he was in school. Cruz is such a good debater that I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrat nominee would find an excuse not to debate him if he is the Republican nominee.
1 posted on 11/11/2013 4:12:42 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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Wow.
Ya mean we actually get to choose between two GOOD GUYS??
NOT the lesser of many evils?????

Be still, my heart.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 4:18:31 AM PST by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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Yep--I like them both. I hope they don't damage each other--Perry is a dynamite governor. Ya'll don't know what Perry accomplished for Texas just by putting a leash on ambulance chasing. No other GOP gov managed such a thing. And I can't quite get away from the fact that Cruz is a lawyer, albeit an exceptionally principled one.

Dream team… Perry president, Cruz Atty Gen, Palin Sec of Interior, Commerce, Energy and Education… Oh, well. I can dream/

3 posted on 11/11/2013 4:22:13 AM PST by Mamzelle
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Perry needs to quit the stage gracefully. He can’t be president, so he should retire and find something to do to promote Texas A & M, his alma mater.

However, the prospect of a Cruz-Perry debate would be interesting. Obviously, Perry has never heard Ted Cruz recite from memory the entire outline of the U.S. Constitution, which he learned as a sixteen-year-old. Chris Wallace was stunned.


4 posted on 11/11/2013 4:22:45 AM PST by txrefugee
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The fact he is not up to Harvard yard debating has no bearing on his executive skills. He has done a very commendable job as Governor. To dismiss him out of hand is just plain silly.

Cruz is very articulate and conservative to the core but lacks the seasoned in the trenches experience of any governor.

I would vote for either.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 4:24:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: PJ-Comix

I, for one, am not going to get roped into a non-problem at the behest of some political hack at Politico.

I was against Perry in the last election because of his immigration stance, but it is no reason to bad mouth him now. He is good for Texas and his citizens seem to approve.

Cruz? Nothing anyone, anywhere, anytime says or does can change my opinion about him. Of all the possible debate contenders on the scene today, I believe that his is the only one that would be able to cut through the Hillary Horseshit Brigade in debates of almost any forum. That even goes with someone like hagged-out Candy Crowley.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 4:25:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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Perry was even a poor debater in Texas elections. Sadly, that won’t do on the national stage. Cruz, on the other hand, is very fast on his feet.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 4:25:29 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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Hmmmmm. Here we go again. We will spend the primaries fighting over which conservative candidate is the best, watering down the vote for all conservative candidates, while the GOPe’s chosen one slides into victory.

When are we going to learn?


8 posted on 11/11/2013 4:29:11 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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One - Dept. of Education, Two - I don’t remember, and D I forgot.


9 posted on 11/11/2013 4:29:19 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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As far as the TexGOPe goes, Perry is just a little bit of an outsider, because he is more like Cruz that they like.

I doubt Perry will actually run for Prez again, my money is he will come out against Cornwallis and then we’ll have a real TEXICAN TEAM in the Senate.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 4:30:16 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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I agree. All of these articles pitting everyone against each other seem to be coming out of Politico.

We need to post over there relentlessly.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 4:39:02 AM PST by dforest
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cruz needs to stay and lead in the senate. If perry runs again, he needs some serious work in all aspects of campaigning.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 4:58:05 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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At school. Try Princeton.

Our high school debate team could beat Mr. Perry. He’s done running for Prez after he got dragged out and them embarrassed himself. Another Guv that needs to stay home

Cruz already beat Perry’s Lt Guv for Senate.

Politico would like to shovel the stuff around. They’ll push Christie at us.

What all these lib papers don’t get is that it is all over. The republican base who didn’t vote for Romney has seen nothing to convince them they were wrong, that Romney and this wimp congress = minority and majority, no different- would do anything to push back the anti American, extra Constitutional agenda that pervades the money people, whoever they are.

And they sure are not going to go for the ‘whatever it takes, for whatever group of voters I need’ Christie is not the answer. Perry is out, McCain is done, Rubio and his ‘what the hell is he doing!?’ - no, It’s Hillary’s turn.

After Issa, the majority House, McCain, Graham no one will do anything about this unemployed former State head and her dealings in Benghazi and her myriad other failures, Does the RNC think anyone believes their moderate will beat her?


13 posted on 11/11/2013 5:00:24 AM PST by stanne
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Yes—we’re still trying to overcome foisting LBJ on the country..........


14 posted on 11/11/2013 5:00:51 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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LOVE this idea! Hope you’re right!


15 posted on 11/11/2013 5:21:10 AM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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my money is he will come out against Cornwallis and then we’ll have a
real TEXICAN TEAM in the Senate.

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I’d not put much of my money on such a thing. But if it was to be then Perry
hasn’t let a peep out about such an organization, etc. He has 28 days to put
his name on the list for the Mar. 4, 2014 GOP primary. So far none of the big
names that have been bantered around have stepped up and some have made it public they aren’t going to put their name in the pot.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/189638-cornyn-primary-threat-waning


16 posted on 11/11/2013 5:36:09 AM PST by deport
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And the prospect of a clash between the two Texas-sized egos

Gov. Perry's ego is legendary here in Texas, but I haven't seen much of that character flaw in Cruz yet.

17 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:38 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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I have met them both.

Perry should not have run before because of his back problem that had him full of pain meds. With that said he would still make a great president because he understands our capitalist system.

Ted Cruz? One word - GIFTED! He has a God given intellect that is stunning. He understands damn near everything.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 6:02:49 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_xhAvtgEWo&t=9m39s


19 posted on 11/11/2013 6:05:07 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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I see real potential for a hat trick, here.

Typically, when conservatives have a candidate, the Republican establishment all throw their support behind a liberal Republican, then do their best to undermine the conservative.

However, if *two* conservatives can take over the stage in a struggle, real or imagined, it might keep any liberal Republican out of the limelight for so long they can’t build any momentum. Even when the establishment puts up a candidate, he will be ignored.

This being said, perhaps the best outcome will be for Cruz and Perry to hold a series of friendly “constructive” conservative debates done with a complete absence of leftist-liberal involvement, Democrat or Republican. That is, before audiences of conservatives, the two of them together examine conservative ideas and how best to implement them.

Though videoed, they are edited before distribution on the Internet, to eliminate any gaffes or misstatements, to eliminate any “gotchas”, and to deal with ideas. By mutual agreement, they might even permit graphic displays and other training aids.

In the process, they outline the “conservative agenda” for the future of America, how it will recover economically, reduce the size and power of government, restore industrial and energy production to the US, secure the borders, etc.

The debates can go out over the Internet, put on DVD as gifts for fundraising, as well as being heavily copyrighted, to reduce hostile editing by leftists and the MSM.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:21:11 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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