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Cruz Won't Rule Out Another Government Shutdown
TPM ^ | 10-17-13 | Caitlin MacNeal

Posted on 10/18/2013 5:55:31 AM PDT by Paul46360

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said Thursday that he would not rule out pushing the federal government to shut down again in order to defund the health care law.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; aca; caitlinmacneal; cruz; deathpanels; obamacare; shutdown; teaparty; tedcruz; texas; zerocare
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1 posted on 10/18/2013 5:55:31 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360

Well, somebody has to do something about the train wreck


2 posted on 10/18/2013 5:58:25 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Paul46360

Democrats rejoice


3 posted on 10/18/2013 5:58:28 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

RIGHT DURING PRIMARY SEASON!


4 posted on 10/18/2013 5:59:58 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Paul46360

Um Cruz?

How about you find a new topic to raise heck about? I’m series.

Healthcare isn’t the only thing in the budget.


5 posted on 10/18/2013 6:00:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Paul46360

What a patriot! Ted Cruz will go down in history as one of only 3 patriots that gave their all to save our country.

All of the rest of those on “the hill” are cowards, cheats, and downright enemies of our country.


6 posted on 10/18/2013 6:01:09 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Paul46360

Except that now they won’t have any problems at all finding at least 6 or 7 Republican senators to vote to end his filibuster. So he might shut it down for 30 hours but that’s about it.


7 posted on 10/18/2013 6:01:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: stanne
Agree. Thank God for Sen Cruz.

After Jan 1 everyone should have a pretty good idea of how much Obamacare is going to really cost them.

8 posted on 10/18/2013 6:03:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Paul46360

The tea party should be making demands NOW for a 20% reduction in the budget. I know they should be demanding a balanced budget but 20% is all they can hope for at this time. And I picked 20 because that is the amount used for the sequestration.

Maybe they should completely drop the Bongocare meme too. It’s a marxist ideal but it may fail on its own. Anyways, it’s is distracting from the bigger isssue of run away spending.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 6:03:42 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: RadiationRomeo

Why make demands when they will be ignored?


10 posted on 10/18/2013 6:06:05 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There has not been a single piece of legislation over the past 20 - 30 years that has anywhere near the potential to destroy our country as Obamacare. Period. Obviously, you don’t understand that.


11 posted on 10/18/2013 6:06:54 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquited by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: Paul46360

Good


12 posted on 10/18/2013 6:07:17 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Paul46360

shut it down

all the way down

except for the military

the rest is a runaway train


13 posted on 10/18/2013 6:07:44 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RadiationRomeo
It’s a marxist ideal but it may fail on its own.

In your dreams. The statists will simply "fix" it again, because no matter how badly it hurts you and I they LOVE it.

And it will be with us for ever and ever amen.

It needs to be eradicated and their are precious few in a position to do so willing to try.

Whoever does ANYTHING should have our undying appreciation.

14 posted on 10/18/2013 6:08:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

you, whoever you are, don’t get it do you

this is a communist takeover

wise up, genius


15 posted on 10/18/2013 6:08:25 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Really?
It will rip the fabric of America when it is fully complimented, so it is damned important.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 6:08:35 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Paul46360; All
He can't. Mitch screwed him and us, forever.

McConnell Debt Plan: Press Release Conservatism

Section 1002 of the bill provides for McConnell’s infamous resolution of disapproval. Basically, within three weeks of the President’s official request for a debt limit increase (until Feb 7, 2014 in this case), Congress can force a vote to disapprove of the request. There’s one problem, though. That resolution must pass with 2/3ds majorities in both houses.

17 posted on 10/18/2013 6:09:34 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: babble-on

“conservatives don’t care”
Fully funded and implemented obamacare will destroy whats left of the county.


18 posted on 10/18/2013 6:09:40 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: RadiationRomeo

$35,000,000,000 a year is big spending
The cost will only go up, obamacare is not sustainable


19 posted on 10/18/2013 6:10:56 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Paul46360

Cruz can try again, the Dems will set up the same PR ambush and chew up more precious time as Obamacare failure will be replaced with gov shutdown news. Wall Street will join the MSM to punish GOP because they do not like anyone screwing with their profits. If Cruz is going to lead the GOP he needs to incorporate wisdom in his keen intellect. The clean ticket to victory in 2014 is Obamacare. Gain the Senate and keep the House in 2014 and take the WH in 2016. The smartest thing the Dems will do before 2014 is delay the ACA so the ill effects can be hidden before the 2014 elections.


20 posted on 10/18/2013 6:12:23 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Paul46360
YEAH!..take that "the Surrender Caucus."
CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT.

21 posted on 10/18/2013 6:12:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: tatown

Oh I get it.

What used to be “American” businesses are increasingly Chinese manufacturers with zero exposure to America’s business climate.

Our business climate is plunging, yet Cruz is fighting against Americans in my opinion, by sticking with a plan which made sense only with full employment.

Bring back American businesses.

Grow American businesses. Then we’re in good shape.

But don’t fight insurance, when American businesses are leaving.

One or the other.

I say, or both.

I really do not get this opposition to insurance. It’s like a mob scene around here.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 6:13:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: RadiationRomeo

It is only the end of the first quarter. They must stay on offense.

Send a BUDGET to Reid and the Senate and press to get it passed now before Obammy changes the discussion - again


23 posted on 10/18/2013 6:14:25 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: Paul46360

He’s consolidating his position for a primary election. I get it. He needs to be careful though. Attacking this beast with no intention of actually killing it is dangerous for him and us.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 6:14:59 AM PDT by RC one
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To: skeeter

Reading comments on FR and other places, I am agreeing with a new political party and a name change to one.

Let’s have the Republican Party, liberal party and the surrender monkey party (or just the surrender party)


25 posted on 10/18/2013 6:15:05 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: yldstrk
Cringing Negativism Network...Is just living down to his FRname.

26 posted on 10/18/2013 6:15:53 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Paul46360

Of course not. Is Obama ever going to give up throwing himself into the government machinery required to make America at the very least, non-dysfunctional, as the infernal “monkey wrench” that he is relentlessly determined to be?


27 posted on 10/18/2013 6:16:19 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: tatown
There has not been a single piece of legislation over the past 20 - 30 years that has anywhere near the potential to destroy our country as Obamacare. Period.

And even that pales in comparison with the damage the next big piece - immigration 'reform' - will cause.

28 posted on 10/18/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you care about American businesses you would support Cruz shutting down the government again and again over Obamacare. Nothing, and I mean nothing, will hurt (is hurting) the jobs sector like this piece of legislation. If you really care about jobs, you’d already understand that.


29 posted on 10/18/2013 6:17:17 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquited by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This is not about opposition to insurance, it is about opposition to obamacare.
It is a bad bill, a costly bill (which is not sustainable), increase the power of the IRS, controls one 7th of the economy.......how can you not get that.


30 posted on 10/18/2013 6:17:33 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Paul46360

What Shutdown? Was there such a thing? I don’t know anyone who even noticed it. /sarc


31 posted on 10/18/2013 6:18:02 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: tatown

If Republicans were fighting for American jobs, I would agree with your approach.

The GOP is in China, and China is growing.

The Chinese companies are (all) owned by China. Don’t think they’re American, even though they are supplying American businesses.

Go in any store, and you will find row upon row of goods, all made in China.

Nobody is looking out for America anymore.

Bring back American businesses.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 6:20:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Paul46360

I wished he would have done another 30 hour filibuster before this last one and pushed this deal past the “sky is falling” default deadline - then everyone could have seen how much hokey that was also. The stock market was actually positive when it looked like there might be an imposed limit on our borrowing. He could have just read the bill and exposed the 3 billion McConnel project.


33 posted on 10/18/2013 6:20:55 AM PDT by RushingWater
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To: DIRTYSECRET

An excuse for Bammy to cancel elections and declare martial law for the good of the American people.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 6:21:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Paul46360

Ummmm, no Cruz. McCain has stated emphatically that there will be no more shutdowns. DOH!

/s


35 posted on 10/18/2013 6:24:18 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: Starboard
That's an excellent point. Reminds me of the age-old saying, if the government gets shut down but has nothing to show for it after flipping over the front door sign from closed to open, was it ever really shut down?
36 posted on 10/18/2013 6:25:44 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are missing the thousands of American companies that are built right here on American soil every single year. I work for such a company and we manufacture high quality, made in America products. Our company, like many others, are being crushed by Obamacare. You are too caught up in the ‘Chinese stealing our jobs’ to even see what I’m talking about. Like I said, if you care as much about American jobs as every single one of your posts claim , then you would support Cruz and his effort to stop/slow this law. Wake up.


37 posted on 10/18/2013 6:26:21 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquited by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: tatown

I would (far and away) prefer to support Ted Cruz for his ongoing, tireless support of American manufacturing, than what he is fighting right now.

Just saying.

Cruz needs to fight for American jobs.


38 posted on 10/18/2013 6:28:23 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: RadiationRomeo

When the economy suddenly tanks under the load of an unsustainable debt, and it will, I think the Tea Party (and even a few in the GOP) are going to look pretty good as they tried to stop the train wreck. People will eventually realize that IMO.

The Democrats own a lot of brewing problems. They should be very nervous about it all unwinding on their watch.


39 posted on 10/18/2013 6:28:28 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Paul46360

Wait...I thought the Today Show told him that wouldn’t be nice?


40 posted on 10/18/2013 6:32:57 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

ObamaCare increases the costs of doing business in the USA.


41 posted on 10/18/2013 6:34:16 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

are you daft?

have you been in the wilderness?

it’s not insurance, nit wit, it is rationed care


42 posted on 10/18/2013 6:37:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Healthcare isn’t the only thing in the budget


Nope, but I reckon its probably the one that will effect the next generation and the one after the most.

Nationalizing 1/6 of the economy is a pretty big deal. Destroying the economy is a pretty big deal. Taking away our freedoms and funding a law that give the Federal Government the power to regulate almost every aspect of our lives at a whim and uses the IRS to enforce it is a pretty big deal.

You want to send more jobs oversea, then get rid of full-time work in America. That's what happened in France, Mark Steyn has done some great articles on it. You can't bring back jobs by throwing more arcane rules and mumbo-jumbo regulation at U S employers.

Obammacare is ‘hugh’.

43 posted on 10/18/2013 6:40:17 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Manufacturing jobs are being created every day, just come down to TX and you’ll see it. If Obamacare and immigration reform aren’t stopped you’ll be referring to 2013 as the ‘good old days’.


44 posted on 10/18/2013 6:41:41 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquited by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: yldstrk

What I am saying is, bring back American businesses, to America.

Do this first.

Bring American jobs back now. Protect them, with some sort of American-centric taxes on foreign goods. High enough to start to rebuild America.

THEN worry about insurance. Right now our country is heading straight toward a huge problem: Not enough jobs.

Our unemployment rate is HIGH. Factories have shut all over America, and yet we continue to go along pretending this is somehow aok.

This is not aok.

America needs jobs. Bring back American jobs.


45 posted on 10/18/2013 6:41:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Paul46360

It really doesn’t matter anymore. The so-called “compromise” bill changed the way that any future debt limit is to be voted upon. All future debt limit increases are AUTOMATIC and must be voted DOWN by Congress. In essence, Congress gave the purse strings to the president. In their rush to “open the government” and pass a bill before they read it, the Congress just granted Führer status to Obumba.


46 posted on 10/18/2013 6:48:25 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: svcw; Cringing Negativism Network
"It is a bad bill, a costly bill (which is not sustainable), increase the power of the IRS, controls one 7th of the economy.......how can you not get that."

Exactly. Why would we join the damned GOP elite in attacking one of the very few fighters on our side?

47 posted on 10/18/2013 6:50:34 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon

I’m all for Cruz. 100%.

I’m just not for Cruz spending all this political capital fighting for insurance payments, on what are increasingly Chinese goods.

We need to build stuff in America.

Now.

Pivot, Cruz.


48 posted on 10/18/2013 6:53:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: CatherineofAragon

It has to be hammered into the LIVers heads that Ted and TEA tried to save EVERYBODY, not just conservatives.


49 posted on 10/18/2013 6:55:04 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Paul46360
ALL Democrats support ObamaCare; 114 Republican Senators and Congressmen support ObamaCare; the media support ObamaCare. Ted Cruz and the Tea Party do not.

It's YOUR call, America.

50 posted on 10/18/2013 6:58:48 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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