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Congressman: 'Constitutional Crisis' if GOP Caves on Debt Ceiling
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Go ^ | 15 October 2013 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 10/15/2013 10:34:02 AM PDT by 11th_VA

On the House floor on Monday, Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA) argued that President Barack Obama’s activities during the government shutdown over Obamacare are a sign to him that Obama would act nefariously to attack the full faith and credit of the United States of America by taking the country into a default in a debt ceiling crisis if the president does not get everything he wants in negotiations.

“Given the ruthless and vindictive way the shutdown has been handled, I now believe that this president would willfully act to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States unless the Congress acquiesces to all of his demands, at least as long as he sees political advantage in doing so,” McClintock said in a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives. “If the Republicans acquiesce, immediate crisis will quickly vanish, credit markets will calm and public life will return to other matters. But a fundamental element of our Constitution will have been destroyed. The power of the purse will have shifted from the representatives of the people to the executive. The executive bureaucracies will be freed to churn out ever more outlandish regulations with no effective congressional review or check through the purse. A perilous era will have begun in which the president sets spending levels and vetoes any bill falling short of his demands. Whenever a deadline approaches, one house can simply refuse to negotiate with the other until Congress is faced with the Hobson’s choice of a shutdown or a default. The nation’s spending will again dangerously accelerate. The deficit will rapidly widen. And the economic prosperity of the nation will continue to slowly bleed away.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; ceiling; debt; mcclintock; spending
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Yep - that's what this has become ...
1 posted on 10/15/2013 10:34:02 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Tells it like it is.

Regardless of the particulars, this is all just a handover of power from the legislative to the executive.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 10:35:43 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 11th_VA

Finally! Calling a spade a spade!


3 posted on 10/15/2013 10:35:47 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: 11th_VA

the economic prosperity of the nation will continue to slowly bleed away.”

I’m pretty sure that is all in his plan.


4 posted on 10/15/2013 10:37:00 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Racist!


5 posted on 10/15/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: 11th_VA
Finally a politician calling out the POSPOTUS on it...

"“Given the ruthless and vindictive way the shutdown has been handled, I now believe that this president would willfully act to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States unless the Congress acquiesces to all of his demands, at least as long as he sees political advantage in doing so,”


6 posted on 10/15/2013 10:37:14 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: 11th_VA

Who is this guy?

We need to hear MORE from him.

Obama is a criminal guilty of high crimes and misdeameanors and should be impeached.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 10:37:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: 11th_VA

Obama wants the Mother Of All Defaults so he can become Emperor Barrack the first


8 posted on 10/15/2013 10:37:58 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: 11th_VA; All

Heard Gohmert on Fox say we “reaching the point of high crimes and misdemeanors!” 15 mins ago.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 10:40:13 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: 11th_VA
Bump. Finally, someone is telling it like it is...

Maybe Matt Drudge will pick up this story and highlight it...

With the Secret Service enforcing the shutdown of Memorials in DC, it sounds like Obama is using the Secret Service like Adolf Hitler used the Gestapo... Though an admittedly tamer version... No book burning yet. No false imprisonment of innocent people yet...

10 posted on 10/15/2013 10:41:12 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: 11th_VA

100% correct


11 posted on 10/15/2013 10:41:23 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 11th_VA
“Given the ruthless and vindictive way the shutdown has been handled, I now believe that this president would willfully act to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States unless the Congress acquiesces to all of his demands, at least as long as he sees political advantage in doing so,”

Absolutely Obama would .... laughing all the way.

12 posted on 10/15/2013 10:42:39 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: ZULU

McClintock..wish he would run for Senate here in CA. He’s awesome. He’s been quiet, glad he’s speaking up now because he tells it like it is.


13 posted on 10/15/2013 10:43:59 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: 11th_VA

The problem is not the debt limit — the problem is the debt.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 10:44:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 11th_VA

We are witnessing the birth of Socialism in America...unless true blooded Americans uphold our Constitution. This was all in the plan, but the majority see life through rose colored glasses.


15 posted on 10/15/2013 10:46:12 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: ZULU

I believe he was a candidate for governor but lost the nomination to Ahnold. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 10:48:17 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: 11th_VA

Enough money comes in to pay debt interest. This “default” talk is complete and utter nonsense.

Call Obama on his BS.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 10:49:14 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: 11th_VA

Pay or repeal, don’t welsh.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 10:49:28 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: sanjuanbob
The Dims have succeeded at increasing the numbers of "gimme dats" to the same number of hard working, tax paying citizens.

Once you have half of the population addicted to *FreeS#!t*, it's hard to turn the ship around.

19 posted on 10/15/2013 10:50:49 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: rainee

Is he the guy that came in second behind Arnold in the recall?


20 posted on 10/15/2013 10:53:01 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: rainee

Oh. I see that he was third.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 10:54:24 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 11th_VA

So true


22 posted on 10/15/2013 10:54:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 11th_VA

The dummies don’t care.


23 posted on 10/15/2013 10:54:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: 11th_VA

(Executive-created) default or shutdown halts government growth. We hold the cards. We just need the courage to use them.


24 posted on 10/15/2013 10:56:15 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: workerbee

It wasn’t a primary. He was third, falling behind Cruz Bustamante. I had to look it up, but I, like you, remembered that name. I had no idea he was in the house.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 10:56:24 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 11th_VA

I think we have been in a constitutional crisis for quite a while now...several years in fact.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 10:56:34 AM PDT by Geoffrey
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To: 11th_VA
...a fundamental element of our Constitution will have been destroyed.

There's a word for this: Tyranny.

27 posted on 10/15/2013 10:56:59 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: 11th_VA
"Ruthless and vindictive" These have nothing to do with money and everything to do with Obama's abuse of power to capriciously impose his will, which he does in the most malicious way possible.
28 posted on 10/15/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: topher

Where did you hear that the secret service was enforcing the shutdown of the monuments? First I’ve heard of it, but I’ve been traveling and out of the loop today.


29 posted on 10/15/2013 10:59:36 AM PDT by livius
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To: demshateGod

Yes 3rd & we got the Governator..ughh
Slightly better than La Raza Bustamante.


30 posted on 10/15/2013 10:59:58 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: seeker41

“Heard Gohmert on Fox say we “reaching the point of high crimes and misdemeanors!” 15 mins ago.”

It will snow in hell before this S.O.B.is impeached.We are stuck with this clown until his term ends or we gain control of the senate.


31 posted on 10/15/2013 11:00:41 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: MissMagnolia
Absolutely Obama would .... laughing all the way.

I think the rest of the Democraps would split off. But then again, they aren't Democraps for nothing.

32 posted on 10/15/2013 11:00:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 11th_VA

sfl


33 posted on 10/15/2013 11:02:01 AM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: workerbee
I believe he was a candidate for governor but lost the nomination to Ahnold. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Yes. Around here, Ahnold was the candidate "who could win."

You may have heard that before.

34 posted on 10/15/2013 11:02:04 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ZULU

McClintock has been a much respected conservative in CA for years. At one time he lost the GOP nomination for governor to the big rollers who got Schwarzenegger elected. He has always been an honest and forthright person but somewhat subdued as to rhetoric.


35 posted on 10/15/2013 11:02:28 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: 11th_VA
Kudos to Tom McClintock for speaking the truth about the debt and the obozo agenda. See, not all Kalifornicate’s politicians are anti America
36 posted on 10/15/2013 11:05:04 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: 11th_VA

What would an islamist care about “full faith and credit”.


37 posted on 10/15/2013 11:10:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: topher

That is a blatant misuse of a federal agency.


38 posted on 10/15/2013 11:15:08 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 11th_VA
Palin: ‘Defaulting On Our National Debt Is An Impeachable Offense’
39 posted on 10/15/2013 11:21:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: puppypusher
“Heard Gohmert on Fox say we “reaching the point of high crimes and misdemeanors!” 15 mins ago.”

The list is large.

40 posted on 10/15/2013 11:31:39 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 11th_VA

If the gop caves obama will be able to pay Valerie Jarrett and Moochelle millions of dollars as advisors. He’ll be able to pay anyone he wants. I have to wonder if the Clintons really want to see him get that much power.


41 posted on 10/15/2013 11:35:12 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: 11th_VA

That’s what it has always been.

The House is finally telling the President what is what. The Rat intent was to destroy the appropriations process and userp the power of th e House of Representatives.

The Speaker should publicly announce there was an election in 2012 and he won.


42 posted on 10/15/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert
The Speaker should publicly announce there was an election in 2012 and he won.

BUMP !!!

43 posted on 10/15/2013 11:41:08 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA

IF the RINOs cave on this one, it’s time for the Conservatives to immediately become VERY active, maybe a million-man march of the ex-Republicans.


44 posted on 10/15/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: ZULU

Tom McClintock’s my congressman and he drives the liberals nuts up here in conservative — very conservative — Placer County west of Sacramento.


45 posted on 10/15/2013 11:51:57 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Jane Long

From what I heard, Obama has used some of that porkulus money to increase food stamp users. It has run out. That is why he needs more money. To keep the takers happy. He is desperate.


46 posted on 10/15/2013 11:58:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: LibFreeUSA

Tom is always outspoken. Have always liked him.


47 posted on 10/15/2013 11:59:30 AM PDT by sheana
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To: bert
The Speaker should publicly announce there was an election in 2012 and he won.

Pass the bill and adjourn, John.

48 posted on 10/15/2013 11:59:50 AM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: 11th_VA
Tom McClintock's 5-minute address (video and text) is available on his website:
http://mcclintock.house.gov/
49 posted on 10/15/2013 12:00:04 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: 11th_VA

The choices are dictatorship or possible default (is he bluffing?) I think he is bluffing, but even if he isn’t, I’d rather have a default than a dictatorship!!!!


50 posted on 10/15/2013 12:07:14 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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