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Senate tosses shutdown hot potato back to House
KETK ^ | September 27, 2013 | KETK

Posted on 09/27/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by mdittmar

President Barack Obama said Friday that new exchanges for private health insurance under Obamacare will open next week as scheduled even if there is a government shutdown, adding: "That's a done deal."

In a congressional version of hot potato, the Senate on Friday passed a short-term spending plan that would prevent a looming government shutdown and sent it to the House for a weekend showdown between Republican tea party conservatives and their more moderate party leaders.

The 54-44 vote on strict party lines came after Senate Democrats pushed through an amendment to restore funding for Obamacare that House Republicans had eliminated in their version of the spending measure, which would prevent the start of a government shutdown on Tuesday.

Now House Speaker John Boehner must decide whether to urge his divided Republican caucus to vote with Democrats to pass the Senate plan, or yield again to a hardline conservative wing that demands making continued government funding contingent on undermining Obamacare.

Cruz loses filibuster bid

President Barack Obama, who has criticized Republicans for their attacks on his signature health care reforms, will make a previously unscheduled public statement at 3:30 p.m. ET on Friday, the White House announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at ketknbc.com ...


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CNN's Dana Bash, Ted Barrett, Deirdre Walsh and Bryan Koenig contributed to this report.;)
1 posted on 09/27/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

So nothing changes, everything still happens - why is this called a shut down?


2 posted on 09/27/2013 5:09:07 PM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: mdittmar

Peter King TRASHING Ted Cruz on Blowhard O’Reilly. How nice of the bloviator to give this creep airtime.

What train did Peter jump off?


3 posted on 09/27/2013 5:10:22 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: mdittmar

Cowardly Senate passes the buck to the cowardly House ... the ping pong game begins.


4 posted on 09/27/2013 5:11:11 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: svcw

To scare the little people of Stonehenge.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 5:11:37 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: mdittmar

Peter King, “Ted Cruz is a phony! I have no patience for him! We made a mistake letting him get out front!”

Listening to this guy cry is actually quite fun.


6 posted on 09/27/2013 5:15:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

-— Peter King, “Ted Cruz is a phony! I have no patience for him! We made a mistake letting him get out front!”

Listening to this guy cry is actually quite fun. -—

Yeah. For some reason the hoi polloi aren’t lining up behind King. Maybe he should rant louder.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 5:24:36 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: svcw
So nothing changes, everything still happens - why is this called a shut down?

Or, as someone noted on another thread, the chance that we could even shut down the entire government, even for a day, is about the same as Hell Freezing over.

8 posted on 09/27/2013 5:29:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: mdittmar

Many many cowards.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 5:30:56 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: mdittmar

Hot potatoe [AP/photo]


10 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: UCANSEE2
hell freezing over photo: Hell did Freez over 1892-freezing-hell.jpg
11 posted on 09/27/2013 5:33:52 PM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: mdittmar

Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Screwy.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 5:34:10 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Petie STFU


13 posted on 09/27/2013 5:35:05 PM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: Revolting cat!

14 posted on 09/27/2013 5:35:19 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: doc1019
"Cowardly Senate passes the buck"

When was the last time McConnell used the Filibuster (the only real power he has)?

If not now, when?

15 posted on 09/27/2013 5:40:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mdittmar

Well we none should show up to sign up....but of course the freeloaders will first.....I say lets protest at the sites they are signing up!


16 posted on 09/27/2013 5:41:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: mdittmar
CNN's Dana Bash, Ted Barrett, Deirdre Walsh and Bryan Koenig contributed to this report.

This TV station ripped off the story from CNN. It was posted here on FR as a CNN article earlier today: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3072058/posts

17 posted on 09/27/2013 5:49:42 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Ted Cruz the junior senator from TX actively whipping votes in house. You may cheer him on but Obama will not ovrturn his signiture legislation. The end game is obvious. The government shuts down republicans are blamed and the party gets hurt. Does it cost the house? That may depend on the debt ceiling.

When this all plays out and republicans cave, and they will cave, everyone will go after a scapegoat and lock that person out. I wonder who that will be? The large donors and rank and file will exact revenge. That is what happens to failed leaders of a coup.

I may cheer for Ted but I also weep. The end is obvious to me.


18 posted on 09/27/2013 5:51:35 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: mdittmar

44 votes? So 25 wusses can go tell their mommies what good boys they were. Next they’ll go boom boom in the potty.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 5:53:34 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: chopperjc
Don't cry. Cruz may actually pull this off.

And even if he doesn't, I'll keep sending him back as long as he keeps on doing what he's doing. He won his senate race when Dewhurst had a lot more money and the GOP-E blessing. It will be hard to exact revenge on Cruz. Because I'll keep electing him.

He's still got 5 years and 3 months to go, anyway.

Defeatism is a lousy way to go through life.

/johnny

20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:57:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chopperjc

I keep hearing the answer it to take back the senate and the white house. I’m not sure that can be done with the way the democrats have perfected voter fraud. Plus, will the country survive 2 years of obamacare?


21 posted on 09/27/2013 6:03:20 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Going to be a big difference when the party nuters him. The senator is on top today but if this fails, and I can’t see an end game in which it don’t, all you have to do is look at polling, his friends will distance themselves. Don’t underestimate the power of the establishment is immense. Should you win you become a star but when a coup fails what happens?


22 posted on 09/27/2013 6:05:08 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc
Neuter him how? They already won't give him any chairmanships or ranking member status on committees. He'll keep getting elected, and being a pain in their arse.

I despise defeatists.

/johnny

23 posted on 09/27/2013 6:08:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: VerySadAmerican

People said the same thing about Medicare. Ted said the same thing in a speech once people get addicted to the subsidies you will never get rid of it, like Medicare. In the end Obamacare won’t kill the US. The size of the government will.


24 posted on 09/27/2013 6:09:59 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: JRandomFreeper

Defeatist? Nah, realist. We can disagree for now just remember this conversation when the process stories start. We can look forward to he hates puppie stories soon.

I hope I am wrong. I doubt I am.


25 posted on 09/27/2013 6:13:21 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: Viennacon

‘Peter King TRASHING Ted Cruz on Blowhard O’Reilly. How nice of the bloviator to give this creep airtime.

What train did Peter jump off?’

DAMN THE NUMBER OF FOLKS YOU CAN TRUST..AND COUNT ON DWINDLES BEFORE OUR VERY EYES....THE LIST STILL LEFT:

ANNIE COULTER
SARAH
RUSH
COL. WEST AND COL. NORTH
MICHELLE MALKIN
LAURA
SEAN
JIM QUINN
ROGER HEDGECOCK
HERMAN CAIN
LARRY ELDER
THOMAS SOWELL

AND WHO AM I MISSIN?


26 posted on 09/27/2013 6:14:15 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: chopperjc
He's already being pilloried from the floor of the senate by republicans. Do you think he cares? Do you think the Texans that elected him care?

He's going to be up their noses for at LEAST the next 5 years. There is NOTHING that anyone can do about that.

/johnny

27 posted on 09/27/2013 6:15:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimsin

Trust Ann Coulter? She had a love affair with Krispy,


28 posted on 09/27/2013 6:21:08 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: mdittmar
Folks, now that the Senate has done us a great favor, we can focus again on the House. That's where this will be won or lost. And I think there is a fair chance that we can eke some small victory out of this.

As for the Senate, they were never going to vote for cloture. It was really just a question of how many senators would vote with the people, and how many would do as they normally do and vote to screw everybody else. Well, we got our answer: 19 voted with the people, which is actually 4 more than I expected. But more importantly, we now know exactly WHO the Patriots are and who the cowards and kakistocrats are.

But wait. It doesn't stop there. Today's vote was really a two-fer, the gift that didn't stop giving! At no time in my life have the political differences been so stark, the choices so obvious, and the villainy so apparent. Today, the majority of gop members in the Senate stood up and did something I never really thought I would see: they publicly murdered their own political party.

29 posted on 09/27/2013 6:24:12 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Defeatism is a lousy way to go through life.”

It is. Whether mcconnellcare is funded or not comes down to the House. That’s always been the case.

Sure got a lot of eeyores around here.


30 posted on 09/27/2013 6:27:13 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Here’s to a Grand New Party.


31 posted on 09/27/2013 6:27:48 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

“Here’s to a Grand New Party.”

Hear! Hear!


32 posted on 09/27/2013 6:29:03 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Sure got a lot of eeyores around here.

Classical conditioning based on giving a crap what other people who don't matter think. It makes defeatists out of them.

/johnny

33 posted on 09/27/2013 6:31:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

There will be a difference when people roll there eyes and actively weak revenge. Once again maybe he will win and I am wrong.

A question. How does Ted win this? Be specific. I have played this scenario out in my head many ways. I can’t see it. Help me see how this ends up anywhere besides a shutdown and republicans looking bad. History has showed in the past what will happen.


34 posted on 09/27/2013 6:37:35 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Classical conditioning based on giving a crap what other people who don’t matter think. It makes defeatists out of them.”

Spot on, Johnny.

I think we won a lot more today than we lost. We were never going to win the vote in the Senate. Period. This has always been a House issue. But the gop majority in the Senate gave us a couple of things that were far more precious than cloture: they self-identified who the wolves were, plus they essentially murdered their own political party in the process.

So I’m supposed to be sad over this? Come on! If anything I want to crack the champagne!


35 posted on 09/27/2013 6:40:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: chopperjc
He's already won it. He's brought more pressure to bear on DC this week, especially pressure on the liberal GOP, than all of the pundits and scenario spinners ever have.

Phone lines were melting. Obamacare is back front and center and Reid and his buddies HATE it.

You do know the (R)house picked up seats after the last shutdown...

Don't believe everything you hear in the media. Get rid of your television and look at real history, not the media spin.

/johnny

36 posted on 09/27/2013 6:41:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mdittmar

Cowardly Senators couldn’t wait to toss this back to House where Republicans will get blame.
So what did Pub traitors in Senate gain from voting with Dems on Cloture? NOTHING!


37 posted on 09/27/2013 6:45:20 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: weston
So what did Pub traitors in Senate gain

A spot in the unemployment line.

/johnny

38 posted on 09/27/2013 6:50:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

House lost 8 seats but kept majority, republicans picked up 2 in senate. I am well aware of history. Polling was reverse until Newt had the thing with Rabin. Polling is very different today. I do not think your vision of winning has even come close to playing out yet. Dems are enjoying this.


39 posted on 09/27/2013 7:01:05 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc
Dems are getting nervous. The liberal GOP is hating it. King is an example. People in fly-over country are worked up enough that folks in DC are complaining about the phone calls.

Liberal republican senators exposed themselves in public, and the public is pissed.

Sounds like Cruz has already done more in his 9 months than the GOP-E has done in years.

/johnny

40 posted on 09/27/2013 7:06:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mdittmar
The 54-44 vote on strict party...lies.

That's the promised cover vote so every weasely RINO can claim to have voted against Obamacare.

The cloture vote was the only real vote. Make certain that gets out there.

41 posted on 09/27/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: jimsin

Mark Levin


42 posted on 09/27/2013 7:18:52 PM PDT by jetvol1
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To: chopperjc

Let the House quickly reject this legislation and send the same bill back. The hot potatoe needn’t stay in the House very long.

Start the game again.


43 posted on 09/27/2013 7:19:38 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The House can simply vote this bill down and send a new clean bill (one without Obamacare in it) to the Senate. There’s no need for the hot potatoe to stay in the House.

Bounce it back to the Senate late Monday night.

Demand a clean bill, one without Obamacare.

The people deserve a second look at Obamacare, one where we can read the bill first.


44 posted on 09/27/2013 7:23:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Viennacon
Peter King TRASHING Ted Cruz on Blowhard O’Reilly. How nice of the bloviator to give this creep airtime. What train did Peter jump off?

King is attacking Cruz on behalf of Chris Christie. This was revealed on Wednesday, He is angling for SecDef or DHS in a Crispy Creme admin (God forbid).

45 posted on 09/27/2013 7:27:37 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: mdittmar

*Sigh*

Okay, I’ll resign to the fate that we’re up sh** creek without a paddle and go on living my life, because I can jump and scream and holler, write nasty letters to my dem senators, etc., and still nothing changes...

It will only get worse folks. I’m going to try to learn how to survive this screwy f****fest.

(Sorry, I’m really in a foul mood right now. I feel like playing the “knockout game” with some Democrats)


46 posted on 09/27/2013 7:46:24 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (I wish I lived in Texas.)
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To: jetvol1; jimsin
Mark Levin

Truly, the only GREAT ONE.

47 posted on 09/27/2013 7:47:15 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: JRandomFreeper

He hasn’t done anything yet, Obamacare is still law of land with funding


48 posted on 09/27/2013 7:50:16 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: 1010RD

Senate is not going to do anything different. They have a staked out position that has not changed at all


49 posted on 09/27/2013 7:51:45 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: montag813

King would throw us wascally conservatives into FEMA camps no problem. Constitution??? He wipes his butt with it.


50 posted on 09/27/2013 7:52:03 PM PDT by Viennacon
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