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US signs treaty to regulate global arms trading
Associated Press ^ | Sep 25, 2013 11:40 AM EDT | Matthew Lee

Posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The United States, the world’s largest arms dealer, has joined more than 90 other nations in signing a treaty that regulates global arms trading, but there is strong resistance in the Senate, which must ratify it.

Secretary of State John Kerry, who signed the Arms Trade Treaty on Wednesday, said it was a “significant step” in keeping the world safe and preventing terrorists and others from obtaining conventional weapons. …

Addressing U.S. critics of the treaty, the former senator said fears that it would undermine Americans’ constitutional right to keep and bear arms are not grounded in reality.

For one, the treaty does not regulate domestic weapons sales. …

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1 posted on 09/25/2013 9:05:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The U.S. did NOT sign it.

Kerry did.

Means nothing!


2 posted on 09/25/2013 9:08:07 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Olog-hai

Hilda was not on board Horseface....when she took part in abandoning one of her embassy’s...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3071088/posts


3 posted on 09/25/2013 9:13:02 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SumProVita

The treaty clearly calls for some kind of internal registration and tracking of all firearms— so Kerry and the AP (”All Propaganda”) are lying, as usual.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 9:14:20 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Olog-hai

Is this a back door way for them to criminalize and fine the U.S with huge awards to countries Eric and Barry send guns to? You know, distribute wealth to our ‘friends’? After all, all those guns came from the U.S. right?


5 posted on 09/25/2013 9:16:50 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Olog-hai

UNCONSTITUTIONAL! as Mr Heston said, pry it out of this great grandma’s hands.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 9:20:25 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Olog-hai

Most important news story of the day bump!


7 posted on 09/25/2013 9:28:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Olog-hai
Secretary of State John Kerry, who signed the Arms Trade Treaty on Wednesday, said it was a “significant step” in keeping the world safe and preventing terrorists and others from obtaining conventional weapons.

Yet, they send arms across the border in Fast and Furious to known criminal elements, while also supplying arms to Libyan and Syrian based AQ groups.

8 posted on 09/25/2013 9:31:20 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Travis McGee

CWII Ping?


9 posted on 09/25/2013 9:31:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: SumProVita

DOA in Congress.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 9:32:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SumProVita

The clown in the WH likely will attempt to implement his interpretation of treaty without consent of the Senate.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 9:32:22 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SumProVita

Kerry’s signature will be used to get the U.N. nation participation rate up to the point where this is ratified at the U.N.

Once that’s done, it doesn’t really matter what the U.S. Senate does. It’s still considered international law. And international law trumps U.S. law.

So what if U.S. Citizens object? It’s a done deal.

Clinton did it with the I.C.C. Now Kerry is doing it on behalf of the U.S.

If our Senate ratifies or not, it doesn’t matter.

The U.N. gun grabbers will have achieved their goal.


12 posted on 09/25/2013 9:33:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Olog-hai

Addressing U.S. critics of the treaty, the former senator said fears that it would undermine Americans’ constitutional right to keep and bear arms are not grounded in reality.


Had to LOL that statement.

It is all foreign and domestic enemies who are not grounded in reality. They don’t seem to understand what it means to be free AND armed.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 9:36:54 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: DoughtyOne
The U.N. gun grabbers will have achieved their goal.

It is not achieved prior to them prying guns out of “cold, dead hands”

14 posted on 09/25/2013 9:38:21 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

“They don’t seem to understand what it means to be free AND armed.”

They understand they do not want the lower class to be armed. It inhibits the ‘elites’ freedom to control the lower class.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 9:38:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DoughtyOne

But hardly endorced.


16 posted on 09/25/2013 9:39:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: dfwgator

DOA in Congress? 0bama views Congress as irrelevant and has already shown he can get away with whatever he so desires. He’ll issue EO’s using the ATT as his AUTHORIZATION to forward national gun registration, then confiscation.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 9:39:03 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: DoughtyOne; MestaMachine; LucyT; butterdezillion; shibumi; bgill; null and void; SumProVita; ...
And while the eyes of the nation (and of FR) were on Ted Cruz, the Agenda rolled merrily on.

”Look at the monkey... look at the silly monkey!”

18 posted on 09/25/2013 9:40:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: “Hardly enforced.”


19 posted on 09/25/2013 9:41:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai
Secretary of State John Kerry, who signed the Arms Trade Treaty on Wednesday ...

Once a traitor, always a traitor.

20 posted on 09/25/2013 9:41:13 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: KittenClaws

Domestically, we will be able to stave off action for a while. International trade will be affected at once.

Municipalities will develop their own rules based on international law bypassing our government.

It will get messy, and the courts will have to settle it.

What with idiots like Ginsberg siting foreign legal precedence for her decisions and the like, we shouldn’t feel very secure in our rights.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 9:41:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: KittenClaws
It is not achieved prior to them prying guns out of “cold, dead hands”

I'm reminded of the scene in the beginning of "Red Dawn", when they did just that...

22 posted on 09/25/2013 9:43:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Olog-hai

Trading means and exchange of something. hussein and his buddies are taking weaponry from America so there is no exchange. Kerry can sign off on the treaty all day.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 9:44:06 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Biggirl

I agree, but look how the Kyoto protocols were slipped into our nation without our government signing on. States and municipalities implemented much of it. In many areas it’s the same as if our federal government had signed on.

Don’t expect this to be much different. There is going to be a full assault on the Second Amendment. We just as well get ready for it.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 9:44:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

That is why you will see folks hiding their weapons.


25 posted on 09/25/2013 9:47:28 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

That’s why you’ll see people being arrested and their licenses to work revoked, them classified as felons.

This is full tilt go after your citizens time.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 9:48:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have to agree with you. Those that think that signature dosen’t mean much are in for a shock.

As for me, I’m going out for another several thousand rounds.

Those that think that we are going to comply with this are also in for a shock.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 9:49:04 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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To: Captain7seas

DO NOT USE SOCIAL OR POLITICAL MEDIA SITES TO MAKE COMMENTS THAT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU.

Seriously.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 9:50:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

That is why I see a revolt coming down the road.


29 posted on 09/25/2013 9:50:29 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

And so do they. Believe me, they have seen this coming because they knew their ultimate goals, and how folks would respond to their attempts to realize them.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 9:51:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Please see post number 29, it is a prediction.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:24 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: DoughtyOne

Please see post number 29, it is a prediction.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:24 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai

Not grounded in reality

..

We’re talking sKerry here, folks.

W.A.S.S.

F DA UN .. Send the UN to Africa or EUrope.. With Kerry.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 9:53:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is a serious prediction I made.


34 posted on 09/25/2013 9:53:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai

I guess being an illegal Senator, the Sec of State in violation of the law wasn’t enough for ketchup boy.

He’s moved on to TREASON!

John F’ing Kerry the SLUT boy!

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive!

One day John you will be called to account before the Throne.

REPENT!


35 posted on 09/25/2013 9:55:03 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: DoughtyOne

IOW, they want to provoke a revolt.


36 posted on 09/25/2013 9:55:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Biggirl

I agree they want to spark a revolt.

These folks have gone completely around the bend.


37 posted on 09/25/2013 9:58:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: edpc

I still want to know whether Holder or the Obama Administration received an IEEPA waiver, or special license from Commerce, for arming these groups.

There is no wiggle room in the IEEPA and nobody seems to be asking this question regarding Libya. If Bush had to get authorization for the lead up to Iraq, where is the special license for Obama?


38 posted on 09/25/2013 9:59:02 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: DoughtyOne

They have . . . and what will happen is if it does occur and the USA’s focus turns inexorably inwards, then the other burgeoning world powers will rise up very quickly—and they are very hawkish in spite of their rhetoric, so WWIII will end up sneaking up behind our backs.


39 posted on 09/25/2013 10:05:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DoughtyOne
International law does not trump the Constitution. What part of soverignty do you not understand.
40 posted on 09/25/2013 10:05:05 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Olog-hai

I agree.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 10:06:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SVTCobra03

“International law does not trump the Constitution. What part of soverignty do you not understand. “

What part of they don’t give a shit what you think the constitution says, they will use this treaty as a means to create a gun registry as outlined in that treaty and they will later use that registry against you. They violate the law all the time but here you naively think they will follow it somehow.


42 posted on 09/25/2013 10:11:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: SVTCobra03
International law does not trump the Constitution. What part of soverignty do you not understand.

You're missing the point completely.  Do I have to disapprove of our sovereignty, our self-determination, or our Constitution to recognize what will take place despite my objections?

The Kyoto Treaty mandates have been implemented in municipalities across this nation.  Did our federal government's refusal to sign on to the Kyoto Treaty block it's implementation?  No.

Look for the same thing to play out once international laws go anti-gun rights for real.

You're going to see a whole slew of municipalities going anti-gun, just like Washington, D. C. and Chicago already have.  Do you see anyone striking down those arcane government refusals to recognize our Constitutional rights?

Do you think it gets better or worse from here, if the U.N. announces it's new mandate has been ratified?  Worse, much worse... and don't think for a minute our federal officials will be defending our rights.  They most certainly won't.

Also know that U.N. rules don't require 50% + 1 to be ratified.  They only require a certain level of approval of member states, to ratify.  When the I.C.C. was ratified, it was much less than 50%.

You think I am the problem because I recognize what's going to take place?

43 posted on 09/25/2013 10:15:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SVTCobra03

International law trumps the US Constitution in the minds of people like Kerry. And DC is polluted with like-minded politicians these days.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 10:15:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DoughtyOne; Olog-hai; Biggirl
I agree they want to spark a revolt. These folks have gone completely around the bend.

*GONE* around the bend? Respectfully, sir, have you not been paying attention? They've BEEN around the bend.

The good news is, I believe the system collapses well before they can put us in chains.

45 posted on 09/25/2013 10:15:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’d be good news if it meant that other world powers don’t rise up and suddenly get very interested in our domestic affairs, to the point where they want to come visit with their militaries. If nobody’s commanding our military to stop them, that’d be more than just a slight problem . . .


46 posted on 09/25/2013 10:17:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Lazamataz

I agree with your take on it, but they at least used to couch their anti-Conservative views. Today they just shout it from the mountain tops. It’s shocking to see what people who are Republicans stand for these days.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 10:18:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SVTCobra03

Obama does not care about, or even like, this (in his words) “deeply flawed” document. He will take the route of saying that we should follow “international norms”. This is what Rebecca Peters and her ilk at IANSA (International Action Network on Small Arms) have been pushing for years.


48 posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:12 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: Olog-hai

Would paper have stopped fast and furious?

What about the gun running out of Benghazi?

Stop Obama from supplying Al Quaeda in Egypt?


49 posted on 09/25/2013 10:26:29 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Old Sarge
I'm reminded of the scene in the beginning of “Red Dawn”, when they did just that...

Yep. And that man went down fighting for freedom - freedom that was won through the blood of our Forefathers.

Sounds to me like there's a bunch of folks willing to settle for doing what we are told by king obama and his many minions.

There will be those who fight and die so that naysayers can live free as well. Cowards who would reap the benefits won by heroes.

50 posted on 09/25/2013 10:36:58 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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