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Putin criticizes Europe’s secularization
Catholic World News ^ | 9/24/2013

Posted on 09/24/2013 3:01:07 AM PDT by markomalley

At a recent talk, President Vladimir Putin defended Christian values and criticized the secularization of Europe, according to the Russian news agency Interfax.

“We have been able to see many Euro-Atlantic countries effectively embark on a path of renouncing their roots, including Christian values, which underlie Western civilization,” he said. “Policies are pursued that put large families and same-sex partnerships in the same category, belief in God and belief in Satan.”

“Excesses of political correctness reach the point where there are serious discussions on the registration of parties that have propaganda of pedophilia as their objective,” he continued. “People in many European countries are ashamed and afraid of speaking about their religion, holidays are abolished or given other names, names that shyly conceal the nature of those holidays, and aggressive attempts are made to force this model on the rest of the world.”

“This is a direct path to degradation and primitiveness, to deep demographic and moral crises,” he added. “What can be a better indication of a moral crisis in human society than its loss of the ability for self-reproduction?”

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KEYWORDS: euroatlantic; putin; russia; secularization
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1 posted on 09/24/2013 3:01:07 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Gee....Vladamir Putin, the leader of the free world- who’da thunk it?


2 posted on 09/24/2013 3:04:57 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: markomalley

Putin saying it like it is.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 3:05:28 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: markomalley

I never thought I’d see the day that a Russian prez would be a champion of Christianity.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 3:06:17 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: Victor
Vladamir Putin, the leader of the free world- who’da thunk it?

I constantly find myself asking, What is he really up to?

5 posted on 09/24/2013 3:06:23 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Well one thing, those are statements you'll never hear OBozo say or for that matter, any RAT.
6 posted on 09/24/2013 3:08:42 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: markomalley
Putin/Palin 2016 </sarcasm>
7 posted on 09/24/2013 3:13:25 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: markomalley

Wow...and on another thread the Globalist Communists were attacking Putin for everything including kicking the dog

Putin’s biggest critics are Commies upset Putin won’t go Commies.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 3:13:38 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Unemployment is so high...its getting harder for Obama to job people anymore)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I don’t trust Putin, but it seems that Bush was not entirely wrong in his charitable assessments of him.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 3:24:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SauronOfMordor

Champion of the free world and sound money as well


10 posted on 09/24/2013 3:30:23 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: markomalley

Putin talks more like a man with more than a shred of decency permeating his character. I look at Putin and think what a disgraceful piece of ghetto trash we have sitting in the White House.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 4:17:50 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

“I never thought I’d see the day that a Russian prez would be a champion of Christianity.”

Incredible, isn’t it? Growing up in the eighties, they were the evil empire - now the roles are reversed.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 4:18:13 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

“I constantly find myself asking, What is he really up to?”

I suspect he is looking at the disappearance of Europe’s individual cultures and doesn’t want the same fate for his people. I don’t want it for mine, either.


13 posted on 09/24/2013 4:19:31 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

I knew I’d lived too long when I learned my country was led by a Marxist Communist Muslim and Russia was led by a Christian. But, after all, Russia is the inheritor of the Byzantine Empire and Putin could now become Emperor Constantine XII. (and I’m not so sure that’s sarcasm)


14 posted on 09/24/2013 4:24:24 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: markomalley

Told you. Putin is an enemy of Islam and he’s fighting a religious war. How many christian orthodox churches has he built again? 200?


15 posted on 09/24/2013 4:28:40 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: markomalley

the more he talks, the more I like him.


16 posted on 09/24/2013 4:36:38 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

Putin has murdered more people than the average jihadi or atheist lunatic could DREAM of killing. That he is able to con people even at FR into believing he is a “Christian” is testimony to his KGB training in disinformation.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 4:48:34 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: markomalley
Hmmm... Putin is laying down his political vision with which he will embark on another run for presidency. Now that the Western Europe is economically and spiritually heading down to the bottom, he wants to claim the champion of new Christian civilization. The Rebirth of quest for the Third Rome encompassing the whole Europe and more.

Back in the ancient times, Western Roman Empire withered away and Eastrn Roman Empire expanded and prospered. Putin wants the same dream,this time his domain stretches all the way to Vladivostok.

This is his vision. It is another thing if Putin or Russia will be able to deliver the result

18 posted on 09/24/2013 4:49:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: markomalley

“I constantly find myself asking, What is he really up to?”

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Putin is a cynical guy who will do or say whatever is expedient. It’s hard to believe that this Russian KGB thug is suddenly a Christian. Although I welcome his words to the Europeans - but this is definitely Bizarro World. I read - here probably - that he is doing this Christian schtick to help unify Russia and promote the birth rate...but there must be more to it than that. In any case, it’s refreshing to hear these words coming out of a world leader’s mouth.


19 posted on 09/24/2013 4:50:03 AM PDT by madmominct
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To: markomalley

20 posted on 09/24/2013 4:54:05 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: markomalley

I ask that about Obama every day.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 4:54:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: PaleoBob

Obama has conned more people than Putin has. I would seriously take Putin over Obama any day.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 4:57:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"I don't trust Putin but it seems that Bush was not entirely wrong in his charitable assessments of him."

I forgot about this. People gave him (Bush) a hard time. It turns out he may be right about the man.

Who would've thought the leader of Russia would be the only person standing up for Christian values?

23 posted on 09/24/2013 4:59:08 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: markomalley

Wow. He’s good at what he does. He knows all the right buttons to push.

I’m starting to think he’s planning to contest the 2016 republican nomination for president of the United States...


24 posted on 09/24/2013 5:02:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: SauronOfMordor

..or even PRETENDING to be a champion of Christianity.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 5:02:55 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

But you have to admit, that’s a pretty low bar.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 5:03:37 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: WayneS

Of course it is. I never imagined I would have any respect or admiration for a Russian leader. I hid under my desk at school because the Soviets were going to be launching missles at me. I lived through the Cold War and had no love for the Russians. That is how far we have fallen - I now trust a Russian president much more than an American president. Pretty sick.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 5:06:46 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley

The world has truly become upside-down.

Putin speaking up on behalf of Christianity, and leading a fight for cultural preservation and self-survival... while America continues to devolve and decay into a suicidal sewer of degeneracy, exemplified by one-party statism to trillion-dollar deficits to homo marriage and a depraved culture of mind-boggling putridness.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 5:11:07 AM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66

Maybe Putin can tell us how to dismantle the cultural Marxism bomb that his country unleashed on us.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 5:29:37 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: SauronOfMordor

That’s right - the guy who ordered polonium be squirted into a man’s tea - who poisoned & disfigured a political rival- and who has Russian journalists shot — is the perfect guy to lecture anyone about Christian values


30 posted on 09/24/2013 5:41:10 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: markomalley

If the KGB guy really ‘converted”, it’s equivalent to the Pope becoming a communist


31 posted on 09/24/2013 7:31:37 AM PDT by capt B
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To: markomalley

I constantly find myself asking, What is he really up to?

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I view everything he says through the lens of How can I (speaking as Vlad now) best control the Russian people.

Gays make trouble.
non-Christians make trouble.

Good Christians render unto Caesar, and all that stuff.

He’s laughing at us, all right. Because so many actually buy his BS.


32 posted on 09/24/2013 7:44:24 AM PDT by dmz
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To: markomalley

Putin will say and do what he thinks is in Russia’s best interest. Who would expect otherwise? He apparently sees Christian and family values as the best pragmatic chance to halt the extinction of ethnic Russians, even if he does not hold those beliefs himself. Regardless of his motives, it is quite an improvement over the old Soviet Union.


33 posted on 09/24/2013 11:55:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I now trust a Russian president much more than an American president. Pretty sick.

No, just pretty stupid.

34 posted on 09/24/2013 12:52:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You trust Obama more?


35 posted on 09/24/2013 12:57:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

What makes you suggest it? Seriously, once and for all, I’d like to get to the bottom of this failure of logic.


36 posted on 09/24/2013 12:59:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Put in stands up for his country and tells homosexuals to leave children alone. Obama apologizes for America and is turning our military gay and anti-God. Are you okay with that?


37 posted on 09/24/2013 1:02:33 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Back up a minute, cowboy. In the real world, one either trusts someone else, or one does not. It’s possible to distrust two people at once, despite the fact that one professes to be anti-homo.


38 posted on 09/24/2013 1:05:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: markomalley

Putin is trying to save his country and religious values will help that.

Obama is trying to destroy his country and is succeeding by helping destroy religious values with the support of the media/entertainment bodies.


39 posted on 09/24/2013 1:30:52 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: 1rudeboy

Indeed, Americans can and know what is right and to fix it, we do not need outside help, however we have a lot of idiots who are empowered to stop Americans from fixing themselves. This is a terrorism problem we need to wake to. Just as there were Saudis on 911, now, under Obama, surprize surprize, many of the terrorists are American muslims...


40 posted on 09/24/2013 1:32:01 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: capt B

The last Pope was in the Hitler Youth. So yes, people can change for the better.


41 posted on 09/24/2013 1:32:43 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Putin is also saying we have terrorists here protected by Obama and he gives himself a reason to nuke us... the Marxist language mixes and is militant leveraging on some overreaching discontent.

Of course, if we give them this discontent on a silver platter as idiots voting for zero do, we might end up exiled to Babylon like jews of old.


42 posted on 09/24/2013 1:35:05 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Neoliberalnot
I look at Putin and think what a disgraceful piece of ghetto trash we have sitting in the White House.

Actually the current pResident of the White House is not exactly 'ghetto trash'. He was raised in an affluent environment, and went to a 'rich' High School in Hawaii. Affirmative Action pushed this underachiever along, and he was able to create a persona and schtick along the way that enabled him to win repeated elections (that, and voter fraud by his handlers also probably helped a lot). I'd call him a con man foisted on us by the God hating Media, but not 'ghetto trash'.

43 posted on 09/24/2013 1:42:54 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: 1rudeboy

Put in doesn’t just talk. It is the law.


44 posted on 09/24/2013 1:45:17 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

And I’ll wager that you yearn for a “strong leader,” right?


45 posted on 09/24/2013 1:46:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: markomalley

People don’t like their long held views challenged, no matter how weak or irrational. The MSM has shaped every American’s perspectives and views, no matter how they deny it. Where do we get our news? Therefore: Russian leader = Communist, fascism (however it’s defined) = bad, gummint helping the poor = good, and other similar simplification.

The figure of Putin, whoever he might be now or has been (and sorry, but no one here is presenting any knowledge about the man outside the usual superficial crap from the MSM, and no knowledge of how the Russian system of government works, everyone assuming that it is a dictatorship or that it is structured and works, or is supposed to work, like the US government) is challenging these silly brain orthodoxies. I only know that we don’t know. We don’t know enough, so spare me parroting these lines you’ve heard from MSM, ape!


46 posted on 09/24/2013 1:47:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

That’s the second time in as many days that I’ve seen you play the “MSM” angle here. Are you suggesting that FReepers are unable to find news on their own?


47 posted on 09/24/2013 1:49:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Where do you find your news if not from the MSM? Secondary sources that ape the MSM? Bulgarian media? Russian? Don’t kid yourself.


48 posted on 09/24/2013 1:51:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I yearn for a leader who isn’t trying to destroy my country.


49 posted on 09/24/2013 1:52:04 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley
Christian values:

50 posted on 09/24/2013 2:01:34 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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