Suspected U.S. shooter had 'secret' clearance, employer says

Yahoo.com ^ | 9-16-2013 | Reuters - Phil Stewart

[servo1969]

Aaron Alexis, the 34-year-old suspect in Monday's shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard, had "secret" clearance and was assigned to start working there as a civilian contractor with a military-issued ID card, his firm's CEO told Reuters.

"He did have a secret clearance. And he did have a CAC (common access card)," said Thomas Hoshko, CEO of "The Experts," which was helping service the Navy, Marine Corps intranet as a subcontractor for a Hewlett-Packard Enterprise Services contract.

[NKP_Vet]

There is no way Obozo could have passed a Top Secret clearance background check. He might have one, but it was pencil whipped when he became president. Same thing goes for John Kerry, who testified before Congress that he had participated in war crimes. His was also pencil whipped. The party in power can do any damn thing they want.

[VerySadAmerican]

I wonder why only a general discharge with his record. Apparently the navy didn’t want to be considered racist.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Very low? There are 3 basic clearance levels, not 20.

Heck, my C required much more effort on a daily basis at work than my later S. Of course, that could be the difference between contractor and subcontractor....

[SkyPilot]

Back in 1998, FBI Agent Gary Aldrich told about how the entire security clearance system was scrapped and compromised so the Clinton Crime Wave could get TOP SECRET clearances that they normally would never had qualified for.

20 years later, in 2008 when Barry Soetoro and his gang crawled under the fence, I can only imagine how corrupt the entire White House security clearance investigations became.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Yes, really, exactly mid-’90s. Mine had special subcategories to it but the basic classification was there.

[SkyPilot]

A SECRET is almost a given to anyone in uniform, and for most Federal Civilians or Contractors - even down to the lowest levels.

That, in turn, has "normalized" the clearance requirements.

It is TOP SECRET and the Special Background Investigations that are difficult.

[the OlLine Rebel]

It often takes a long time, regardless. I’m talking those who already hold some. Some people took forever to officially recieve, others not too long. Very inconsistent. But I guess that’s only evidence of how inefficient government is.

[deport]

This article from the NY Times says he was given an honorable discharge although a less than honorable had been considered. Who knows what the real truth is. Go down several paragraphs for this info.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us/washington-navy-yard-shootings.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[NKP_Vet]

Gary Aldrich was exactly right. There is no way in 40 hells that Bill Clinton could have passed a TS background investigation. He PROTESTED ON FOREIGN SOIL against his own country in time of war. That alone disqualified him from any type of security clearance.

[soycd]

I wonder why most of the victims were white? Perhaps very few blacks worked there?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/dc-navy-yard-victims/index.html

[SE Mom]

Thanks- been out most of day and evening- just catching up.

[OneWingedShark]

Frequently background checks can’t see arrest records, just convictions. This is because some population segments have much higher arrest records than others. If you look at convictions it’s more apples-apples since adjudication is involved.

There was a movie scene with Bill Murray- ever been convicted of a felony? Convicted? No!

Hm, I don't think arrests should be considered at all &mash; it goes against the whole basis of our legal-system and its presumption of innocence.

[Hilda]

What happened to the other shooters. First they said there were three, then they said there were two and one was still at large. The idea that “one was still at large” seems to have just disappeared - I haven’t read any official revision.

[DBrow]

When you get TS they look at arrests, not just convictions.

[OneWingedShark]

When you get TS they look at arrests, not just convictions.

That is so; however, there's the all too disturbing facts that (a) people are getting arrested for non-violations {i.e. illegitimate "law" and regulative-overreach}; (b) the criminalization of nearly everything: if one cannot, in daily-life, help but break the law then the law is unjust; and (c) the trivialization of human life caused by militarization lends itself to a worldview of perps that haven't been caught yet.

That, IMO, invalidates arrests-in-general as being indicative of a person's character.

[DBrow]

Agree.

[USAF80]

The military civilian workforce demographics mirror the population with a few points difference. So yes, few blacks would be working there.

[MIchaelTArchangel]

Criminal record? What criminal record?

Since the Clinton administration, the investigators have not been allowed to ask about arrests, only about convictions. Arrests do not a criminal record make. Only convictions make a criminal record.

What I find a bit unsettling is that the U.S. Navy did not court-martial Alexis for being AWOL (apparently on numerous occasions) and choose instead to discharge him early, that the Tarrant County DA chose not to indict him for shooting into his upstairs neighbor’s apartments, and that Alexis did not face a judge for the disorderly conduct charge in Georgia.

Oh, I get it. He is from Trinidad and Tobago so he probably played the illegal alien card.

[MeshugeMikey]

with an illegal in the Whitehouse....the SKY is the Limit for Illegal Offendors

[USAF80]

If he was a reservist they have different rules than active duty. Missing drill is not the same as being AWOL on active duty. I know a few who got out of the reserves like that.