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Suspected U.S. shooter had 'secret' clearance, employer says
Yahoo.com ^ | 9-16-2013 | Reuters - Phil Stewart

Posted on 09/16/2013 6:51:47 PM PDT by servo1969

Aaron Alexis, the 34-year-old suspect in Monday's shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard, had "secret" clearance and was assigned to start working there as a civilian contractor with a military-issued ID card, his firm's CEO told Reuters.

"He did have a secret clearance. And he did have a CAC (common access card)," said Thomas Hoshko, CEO of "The Experts," which was helping service the Navy, Marine Corps intranet as a subcontractor for a Hewlett-Packard Enterprise Services contract.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aaronalexis; alexis; nationalsecurity; nationalsecurityfail; navyyard; navyyardshooting; navyyardshootings; obama; secondamendment; secret; secretclearance; tyranny; washingtonnavyyard
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To: rlmorel

Uh, they still do that for clearances above Secret.


161 posted on 09/17/2013 2:55:39 AM PDT by Justa
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To: John S Mosby

It seems to me as if the Dept of Defense is responsible in those cases for giving nutjobs security clearances. They can go deeper into applicants backgrounds—and legally discriminate based on their findings—than an employer like HP can.

Holder is now going after employers for performing criminal background checks and passing on hiring felons, because such checks end up filtering out more black candidates—and this guy didn’t even have any felony convictions.


162 posted on 09/17/2013 3:19:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: luckystarmom
I know he had been fired from the company for stalking one of the employees, but I don’t know if his clearance was taken away or not.

His clearance would have been administratively terminated at the time he was fired. Reinstatement within 2 years is normally routine, but under those circumstances it would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Clearances don’t give you that much information on people.

It depends on the level of clearance. A secret clearance is pretty easy to get, as long as your finances are in order. For a top secret clearance, they talk to your neighbors, your references, your previous employers, etc. The interviewer asks open-ended questions that should uncover any problems, as long as the references are honest.

163 posted on 09/17/2013 4:27:22 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: maggief

...Mr Happy Bowl has remarried.. and Mrs Happy Bowl’s Facebook page contains friends who work at/for the Navy and she also has friends in Thailand..

..just fyi/interesting tidbits


164 posted on 09/17/2013 4:31:48 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
that's the job of the NSA. At least when they checked on me in the 1960's.

DSS (Defense Security Service) does it now, for all agencies.

165 posted on 09/17/2013 4:32:36 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Mastador1

I will probably have the same notification waiting when I get to work.


166 posted on 09/17/2013 4:35:29 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Cicero

That fact that no one was fired or imprisoned after Nidal Hassan proves your theory.


167 posted on 09/17/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Cicero

Secret clearance is not all that difficult nor important. The government really does it to protect itself. That way anything classified at all has the person under a prosecutable signature not to reveal.

The real stuff is top secret and the special clearances.

And, if things are still same, an entrance national agency check is sufficient to get a temporary secret clearance.

That means this guy had to have his name run through the computer systems of those agencies, and those agencies did not raise the alarm. Somehow, whatever he’d done in the past had not been flagged in their computers.


168 posted on 09/17/2013 4:54:29 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: littleharbour

“The US government can’t screen out a psycho with anger issues and a history of gun related arrests but his past is uncovered in a couple of hours by those on the internet. Government = incompetence.”..........

Yep, and they still haven’t been able to figure out which planet odumbo came from or when.


169 posted on 09/17/2013 4:58:53 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: servo1969

And he had been treated for serious mental illness??? How did he get a “secret” clearance if he was known to have a serious mental illness?


170 posted on 09/17/2013 5:11:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Progov

Drudge headline says that he was hearing voices and the US was treating him. When does the gov’t treat mental disorders. I thought doctors do that. (we’re not talking Obamacare).


171 posted on 09/17/2013 5:11:41 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: golux
Why does this movie line come to mind....

General "Buck" Turgidson: That's right, sir, you are the only person authorized to do so. And although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.

172 posted on 09/17/2013 5:16:06 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: servo1969

The DoD used to process clearances for Defense Contractors, now it is the Office of Personnel Management. I am not sure when that changed.

I recall, way back in the 80’s, The DoD said there were too many clearances and eliminated the ‘Confidential’ clearance altogether. That was Cap Weinberger in the Reagan administration.


173 posted on 09/17/2013 5:20:23 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: servo1969

1) Of course he had a CAC. Show me a DoD contractor that doesn’t.

2) Secret clearance? Given his past and his continuing problems, that’s mildly surprising, but, frankly, it’s so easy to get a Secret clearance that I wouldn’t put too much stock in this. Obviously there were issues with the follow-up looks at this guy as a potential insider threat.


174 posted on 09/17/2013 5:33:45 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Yes for Ft Hood, not sure about if he did it for Little Rock. Probably not.


175 posted on 09/17/2013 5:52:54 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: servo1969
He must be an Obama friend since the White House has wall to wall crazies tugs working there with no clearance and those thugs are running our country into the ground..Obama more than likely gave him the guns so he could shoot and kill people..Trying to get guns away from good citizens he sicks his criminal thugs on our military..Sounds like something the fool would do..
176 posted on 09/17/2013 5:55:51 AM PDT by PLD
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To: justlurking

“It depends on the level of clearance. A secret clearance is pretty easy to get, as long as your finances are in order. For a top secret clearance, they talk to your neighbors, your references, your previous employers, etc. The interviewer asks open-ended questions that should uncover any problems, as long as the references are honest.”

and with a full field background, they can expand it once derogatory info surfaces. Unfortunately these are now done by contractors to OPM and they are paid by the clearance...derog takes far longer to do so there is not a lot that gets delved into unless the investigator puts the country’s needs over his paycheck IMO.

I used to do these back in the 60’s and 70’s. Whenever someone who had been cleared during the investigation got into trouble there was one question asked by our director: who did the background inquiry and let me see it!


177 posted on 09/17/2013 5:59:53 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: servo1969

Orchestrated mass shooting brought to you by another (cold of been my something....kinfolk...) black super hero with a blessing from Obama and Holder who will both richly reward the super heo terrorist’s family....


178 posted on 09/17/2013 6:43:48 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: Iron Munro

“Another failure of the Napolitano led DHS.”

DOD issues their clearances, I think through Defense Investigative Service. No DHS involved.


179 posted on 09/17/2013 7:00:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Frank_2001

“He got a CCW as well, despite the record.”

Frequently background checks can’t see arrest records, just convictions. This is because some population segments have much higher arrest records than others. If you look at convictions it’s more apples-apples since adjudication is involved.

There was a movie scene with Bill Murray- ever been convicted of a felony? Convicted? No!


180 posted on 09/17/2013 7:28:55 AM PDT by DBrow
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