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The US government has betrayed the internet. We need to take it back
The Guardian ^ | 9/5/13 | Bruce Schneier

Posted on 09/05/2013 7:24:25 PM PDT by shego

Government and industry have betrayed the internet, and us.

By subverting the internet at every level to make it a vast, multi-layered and robust surveillance platform, the NSA has undermined a fundamental social contract. The companies that build and manage our internet infrastructure, the companies that create and sell us our hardware and software, or the companies that host our data: we can no longer trust them to be ethical internet stewards.

This is not the internet the world needs, or the internet its creators envisioned. We need to take it back.

And by we, I mean the engineering community.

Yes, this is primarily a political problem, a policy matter that requires political intervention.

But this is also an engineering problem, and there are several things engineers can -- and should -- do....

Dismantling the surveillance state won't be easy. Has any country that engaged in mass surveillance of its own citizens voluntarily given up that capability? Has any mass surveillance country avoided becoming totalitarian? Whatever happens, we're going to be breaking new ground.

Again, the politics of this is a bigger task than the engineering, but the engineering is critical. We need to demand that real technologists be involved in any key government decision making on these issues. We've had enough of lawyers and politicians not fully understanding technology; we need technologists at the table when we build tech policy.

To the engineers, I say this: we built the internet, and some of us have helped to subvert it. Now, those of us who love liberty have to fix it.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: abuse; bigbrother; google; internet; nsa; nsascandal; nwo; prism; privacy; robotbuilding; transhunamism

1 posted on 09/05/2013 7:24:25 PM PDT by shego
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To: shego

Surprise Surprise Surprise!

DARPA invented the internet.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 7:25:47 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: shego

about time someone said it


3 posted on 09/05/2013 7:26:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: shego

YEAH!


4 posted on 09/05/2013 7:28:06 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: shego

“Now, those of us who love liberty have to fix it.”

Funny. The Guardian is a lefty paper who butchered Bush, America etc since the Iraq War and one thing I hate about anti-Americans is when they prop up conservative terms when they’re on the back end of their liberal policies.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 7:28:11 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


6 posted on 09/05/2013 7:30:58 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: shego
Does anyone think the phone company can't monitor your calls?


7 posted on 09/05/2013 7:33:07 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: shego

What amazes me is how anyone can be surprised that the government will use anything it can to keep the citizens under control.


8 posted on 09/05/2013 7:40:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: mylife

Actually, it was before DARPA, as just an on-campus ad-hoc solution to a practical need.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 7:43:30 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Hardraade

What Telnet?


10 posted on 09/05/2013 7:47:17 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: shego
You want your liberty? Take it back. It's simple: Unplug from the Internet. No more communications to companies or others via the Internet.

Return to FACE-To-FACE communications, period.

Demand REAL customer service, human face-to-face interaction.

The benefits would be real;

1. People would have to learn to be civil to one another again. Let's face it, what people say anonymously to each other via the Internet is VASTLY different than when they have to interact face to face.

2. The NSA can no longer "spy on everyone." There simply aren't enough NSA staff to stand around and LISTEN to every conversation in public or private.

Keep your PRIVATE communications OFF the internet. Learn to actually interact with HUMANS, rather than computers. Demand face-to-face interactions and customer service.

Then watch how fast the Internet falls apart. My God in Heaven, we may actually return to a more civil, personable society!! OH THE HORROR!!!

11 posted on 09/05/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I agree.
Put you life on a pipe to a 3rd party and you have been compromised.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 7:51:01 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: usconservative

I also agree with point #2.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 7:52:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Anyone noticed how much slower your email loads in Yahoo or MSN than it used to? Been the way for quite some time despite much faster computers and bandwidth improvements.


14 posted on 09/05/2013 7:57:08 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

I had not.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 8:03:38 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: jsanders2001

I thought I was being singled out for special monitoring. The speed is agonizingly slow most of the time.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 8:07:20 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: mylife

And thereabouts. Gopher and all.


17 posted on 09/05/2013 9:36:13 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: shego

The best way to take back the internet is to have and use strong encryption. And that means even going so far as to import strong encryption from abroad.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 9:44:09 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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