Posted on 09/05/2013 10:56:09 AM PDT by JSDude1
As Harry Reid pushes for a Syria vote next week in the Senate, he and President Barack Obama face a major challenge convincing liberal Democrats to support them.
Sens. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) opposed the resolution authorizing military action in Syria during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote on Wednesday afternoon. Another liberal Democrat, Ed Markey of Massachusetts, voted present.
The Democratic resistance demonstrates the uphill battle that the Senate majority leader and Obama face on the Senate floor. Reid needs 60 votes to cut off an expected filibuster, and so far, its unclear whether he can get them. Republicans will likely only be able to muster roughly 10 to 12 votes to cut off debate, meaning Reid can lose only a handful of his 54 Democrats to move to a final vote on passage.
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McCain wanted to go further than the Menendez-Corker proposal, arguing that the U.S. should move to help the rebel groups topple the Assad regime. He threatened to vote against the measure endangering its passage until nonbinding language was added.
Im confident it will get through, but doing nothing is a catastrophe. There is no doubt about that, McCain said. If we do nothing in the face of chemical weapons attacks in violations of the conventions and treaties that we have signed and allow this to go on unaddressed would be a catastrophe,
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/liberals-balk-on-syria-96302_Page2.html#ixzz2e2g2kafU
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Hopefully, this will end up like the gun control battle, where Obama hoped that the liberals would stay out of the fight and let Republicans take the blame for killing the issue.
What is even more significant about the Democrat opposition to the war in Syria is that it is allowing some of the Democrats to openly express their opposition to Obamacare. Yesterday, on the DU, posters were not only decrying the Obama push for war, but also Obamacare. They were excoriating Democrats who put party above conscience and what is best for the country.
He has the senate in the bag with losers like Corker and Ayotte on board.
In the House, he is losing badly. 199 against accord to TP. I think Barrow and McIntyre may jump the rat ship on this one too.
Latest scuttlebutt is that he is hoping the thing gets filibustered in the Senate. He can then claim to have the 51 votes of “support” and yet be able to rail against GOP obstructionism AND get off the hook for his red line comments.
McCain is just a useful idiot for our enemies.........I include Obama on that list.
“..Ed Markey of Massachusetts, voted present.”
Sounds like rat presidential material.
“They were excoriating Democrats who put party above conscience and what is best for the country.”
On DU? Just another tell-tale sign that we have entered bizarro world.
That I agree with smelly left-wing anti-war kooks.
That I have more to respect about the leader of Russia than the president of the United States.
That I routinely rely upon the foreign press for news since American Pravda only spouts the Party Line.
That I no longer have any faith whatsoever in any branch or agency of the Federal Government of the United States to serve the interests of the American people.
Where promoting sexual perversion and the destruction of the family are official policies of the United States.
This is not the world where I grew up.
There won’t be a filibuster. I don’t see it materializing in time. I think it will scrape through the senate a little closer than they had planned. Manchin, Harkin, Sanders, Murphy and Udall will vote no, but that will be it from their side. Meanwhile on our side, Hoeven and other assorted backbenchers will fold like cheap suits under McLame’s screeching.
Obama will then be defeated humiliatingly by broad coalition opposition in the House. Grayson is going to help put the final nail in this presidency.
I spar with liberals a lot on a musician site. There is virtually NOTHING we agree on, yet a couple of the worst offenders posted comments about this that could have been posted by me.
The liberals do NOT want us doing anything in Syria. Frankly, outside of the beltway I don’t know who Obama’s getting to support him except his obamaphone crowd.
You make the point I was going to.
This ego maniacal caused political disaster for Obama is self imposed. I think he hoped the “crisis” he created could help him if the GOP gave him an out. He could “blame” republicans for making him impotent and not have to follow through on his “tough talk”. He hoped to make it a 2X win. A bi-partisan rejection of his lunacy makes it a double douche-bag political & foreign policy fail.
He’s slapping Obama left and right. Insane beyond belief, but he knows how to put the fear of Code Pinko into his colleagues.
Those liberal Dems should be careful. The IRS might suddenly become interested in their tax returns . . .
It would be epic fail for the GOPe to pass this resolution without much Dem support.
The Epic death-knell for the party
Head of Black Caucus asks members to stay quiet on Syria
CBC Chairwoman Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio) sent an email Tuesday to CBC members asking them to limit public comment on the issue, Fudge spokeswoman Ayofemi Kirby said Thursday.
The left is not doing much to push this. At kook central Kos the kids have basically two lines to spew, one is basically “humanitarian aid over bombs” or “insert name of GOP poopyhead here.” If the kids at Kos are given new lines to say then I would say the Ds are making a serious push, but if not then this whole exercise is probably nothing but partisan gotcha politics.
Yes, here’s hoping the leftie anti-war folks in the House and Senate vote no overwhelmingly so that O cannot blame the Republicans. His only game plan.
Only the honest liberals are bulking.
....ooops “their” ;^)
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