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As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow
NYT ^ | 16 AUG 2013 | MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 08/21/2013 5:41:40 AM PDT by Old Sarge

WASHINGTON — The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

~ SNIP ~

One goal of the drill, called "GridEx II", is to explore how governments would react as the loss of the grid crippled the supply chain for everyday necessities.

~ SNIP ~

Most of the participants will join the exercise from their workplaces, with NERC, in Washington, announcing successive failures. One example, organizers say, is a substation break-in that officials initially think is an attempt to steal copper. But instead, the intruder uses a USB drive to upload a virus into a computer network.

The drill is part of a give-and-take in the past few years between the government and utilities that has exposed the difficulties of securing the electric system.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; fedzilla; govtabuse; grid; griddown; griddrill; gridexii; prepper; preppers; scandals
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1 posted on 08/21/2013 5:41:40 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Kartographer; blam; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; Bride Of Old Sarge; yorkiemom; VermiciousKnid; ...

I’m pinging a combined Prepper/Threat Matrix list.

According to my read of the article, this is a simulation, like a military CPX, and these 150 companies will not be physically shutting off the grid.

But who knows what they’ll feel empowered to do...


2 posted on 08/21/2013 5:44:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Old Sarge

After 4 days without power - most large American cities would be in the MadMax Zone...


3 posted on 08/21/2013 5:46:33 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


4 posted on 08/21/2013 5:49:26 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Old Sarge

So good of the Times to bring this to everyone’s attention.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 5:52:50 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Old Sarge

Osama Obama picked the perfect time to declare his “war on coal”,the fuel responsible for almost half the electricity generated in this country.


6 posted on 08/21/2013 5:53:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Old Sarge

The first priority would be to ensure that the NSA could spy on the survivors.


7 posted on 08/21/2013 5:59:59 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Old Sarge

Sarge —

the NYT almost gets it right but doesn’t. See the excerpt below:

“protect equipment against an electromagnetic pulse, which could come from solar activity or be caused by small nuclear weapons exploded at low altitude, frying crucial components.

An attack using an electromagnetic pulse is laid out in extensive detail in the novel “One Second After,” published in 2009 and endorsed by Newt Gingrich. In another novel, “Gridlock,” published this summer and co-written by Byron L. Dorgan, the former senator from North Dakota, a rogue Russian agent working for Venezuela and Iran helps hackers threaten the grid. In the preface, Mr. Dorgan says such an attack could cause 10,000 times as much devastation as the terrorists’ strikes on Sept. 11, 2001.”

The article speaks of a nuclear detonation at *low* altitudes generating EMP that damages the grid. Wrong mostly, but right (see SREMP below). HIGH altitude 40+ KM is the best method. The bad guys have to get it up there, but the most modeled EMP attack is high altitude.

Refer to this article http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm and how the most damaging pulse - the HEMP - is generated via the Compton effect induced by a high-altitude burst. A low altitude burst does indeed produce a powerful EMP, called Source Region Electro-magnetic Pulse [SREMP], which is powerful locally, but the extent and permanence of the damage pales in comparison to a high altitude 40 - 40 KM) HEMP.

There are two pulses generated (some prefer to describe 3 pulses, E1-3, but E2 is akin to lightning in its effects and is not anticipated to act as a killer pulse) by nuclear EMP - the HEMP is VERY short duration, with nanosecond rises in voltage/induced current, and lasts about a millisecond. THIS (E1) is what fries the digital circuits of the modern era. The second pulse (E3) is longer duration and induces powerful voltages/currents in the long ‘antennae’ of the power grid, rail lines, etc. Together the two are electronically and even physically disabling to electronic and electrical infrastructure.

Furthermore, solar wind EMPs should only generate the ‘long wave’ EMP, (E3 and perhaps some E2) and pose little threat to any unplugged and moderately shielded electrical/electronic gizmos. One can easily protect your stuff from a solar storm EMP, and we should have days if not plenty of hours to prepare.

One Second After is of course more of a SOCIAL essay/novel - ‘lord of the Flies’ in the 21st century on a large scale. Gridlock is more about thwarting a different attack vector. The outcome is the same — a failure of civility within 9 days.

See also http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp/toc.htm
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/mctl98-2/p2sec06.pdf
http://empcommission.org/
http://www.futurescience.com/X5DNA/X5DNA.html


8 posted on 08/21/2013 6:25:00 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag

9 posted on 08/21/2013 6:34:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Old Sarge

Too few people know the extent of the problem.


10 posted on 08/21/2013 6:38:59 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Excellence

“Too few people know the extent of the problem.”

Lisa Murkowski, the left leaning Republican Senator from Alaska understands it fully. She killed the effort in Congress to harden the power grid against EMP attack.

http://www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/lisa-murkowski-emp-energy/2010/10/14/id/373768


11 posted on 08/21/2013 7:12:54 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Blueflag

The higher you go, the less damage is done. It would take large numbers of these EMP’s to knock out the grid. The Soviet Union tested it on their own people.

Terrorists hitting power substations or embedded viruses is more likely. California is particularly vulnerable.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 7:18:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Old Sarge

ping


13 posted on 08/21/2013 7:25:38 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: 2banana
"After 4 days without power - most large American cities would be in the MadMax Zone"

Optimist. I give it one night. However, the Washington D.C. metro region was severely affected by last summer's massive storm, that knocked out power for many suburban neighborhoods for weeks. Nobody chimped out because of the isolation imposed by downed trees, and it was simply too hot to even breathe. 102 degrees at 90% humidity, and the air dead still, for the duration of the power outage. An urban environment would be a different story. Chimp city after 24 hours.
14 posted on 08/21/2013 7:27:29 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Blueflag

You are right. The higher the nuclear blast happens, the wider is the area affected and it doesn’t take a massive nuclear blast for it to happen.


15 posted on 08/21/2013 7:34:36 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Old Sarge; MestaMachine; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; ...
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As Worries Over the Power Grid Rise, a Drill Will Simulate a Knockout Blow

From the article:

utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will..."

Thanks, Old Sarge.

16 posted on 08/21/2013 7:46:16 AM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: Old Sarge

We have a whole house generator installed with enough propane for about a month.....tested it out during Hurricane Sandy. Also have a backup generator which runs on gas.


17 posted on 08/21/2013 7:47:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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Check out # 11.

18 posted on 08/21/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: 2banana

Congressional staffers will get a waiver from it.


19 posted on 08/21/2013 7:52:56 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: immadashell

Pong


20 posted on 08/21/2013 7:58:17 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Old Sarge

Fedzilla was just running a drill in Boston, too, when a couple of real bombs set off by known government persons occurred. Just sayin’


21 posted on 08/21/2013 8:01:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: PowderMonkey; 2banana; Kartographer
"After 4 days without power - most large American cities would be in the MadMax Zone"
Optimist. I give it one night.

Folks, it's worse.

We will not have three days of Walmart stockpiles to feed the hordes and keep them sated.

We will not have a week of normality before the Gibsmedats come boiling out of the urban kraals.

We will have only HOURS.

1965 - Los Angeles - the arrest of a young black man in Watts incites a crowd, which spawns a riot, within one hour of the arrest;
1968 - across America - the death of Martin Luther King touches off rioting in several cities within hours of the media broadcast;
1977 - New York - the grid goes offline at 9:30PM, the looting starts around 11PM;
1992 - Miami - Hurricane Andrew’s winds haven’t even died down before the malls are ransacked;
1992 - Los Angeles - the verdict is announced for the Rodney King Trial, and almost immediately, the city burns;
2005 - New Orleans - the looting started even before the storm made landfall;
2011 - London - a protest over a slain gangbanger turns violent and within four hours, Greater London descends into mayhem;
2012 - Long Island, NY - in the wake of Frankenstorm, enterprising looters dressed as powerline repairmen sneak past the martial law cordon and pillage, with 24 hours of the storm;

Hours, people - not days, hours.

22 posted on 08/21/2013 8:07:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: PowderMonkey

The very first thing to do if/when an EMP strike or grid attack occurs is to fill water containers. The water supply is pumped into tanks which send water via gravity generated pressure. What is in the tanks is what will be available even when the pumps to refill the tanks no longer operate, so fill water containers FIRST. I have bladder tanks for my bathtubs, to store potable water ...


23 posted on 08/21/2013 8:08:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: AppyPappy

Appy —

Actually, there is an optimized altitude that varies slightly by yield and nature of the weapon. That’s about 40-50KM.

So if you were to go REALLY high, then yes, the damage is lessened. But in this case a nuclear device of the right sort optimally excites the atmosphere for the Compton effect at about 40-50KM, and it’s a line of sight effect from there. The pulse is strong enough that the general rule of “energy dissipates proportional to the cube of the distance” doesn’t matter here. If you’re in the line of sight of a nuclear EMP, your unshielded IC’s are screwed by HEMP.

The SHREMP pulse of a low altitude burst is devastating, but a much smaller radius, and is a direct-effect killer, no Compton effect add on.

They both suck really bad. That’s a net.


24 posted on 08/21/2013 8:08:14 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Old Sarge

I’m not as worried about terrorist doing it as I am our own government doing it and blaming it on terrorist, but alas our government would have become the terrorist.


25 posted on 08/21/2013 8:08:19 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: duffee

The democrips already are the destroyers of OUR Republic. They deserve zero trust now.


26 posted on 08/21/2013 8:12:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Old Sarge

Read “The Harbinger” by Cahn


27 posted on 08/21/2013 8:29:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MHGinTN; Marcella

Water Bob, Marcella APPROVED
28 posted on 08/21/2013 8:32:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2banana

“After 4 days without power - most large American cities would be in the MadMax Zone...”

I think most Americans can stick it out 10 days to 14 days IF THEY KNOW THE POWER IS COMING BACK ON A PREDICTABLE DATE.

If the people don’t know when it is coming back on, then most everywhere will go Mad Max within hours or even minutes.


29 posted on 08/21/2013 8:52:02 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: PowderMonkey
Optimist. I give it one night.

Nonsense, the Southwestern US and Tijuana just went through it in 2011.

30 posted on 08/21/2013 8:52:05 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: Salvation

Upcoming on the reading list, actually...


31 posted on 08/21/2013 9:09:24 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Kartographer; Marcella
Water Bob, Marcella APPROVED

A ringing endorsement!

32 posted on 08/21/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We have a whole house generator installed with enough propane for about a month.....tested it out during Hurricane Sandy. Also have a backup generator which runs on gas.


Do you have black out curtains so no one can see your lights and how far away can the generator be heard?


33 posted on 08/21/2013 9:18:14 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: ansel12

What is being discussed is a power outage of a much larger scale than only 11 hours.


34 posted on 08/21/2013 9:18:45 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: laplata

Most gennies are quite loud. No way around that.


35 posted on 08/21/2013 9:20:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You’re right.

Keep your powder dry and stay safe. :)


36 posted on 08/21/2013 9:23:10 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Old Sarge

Hmmmmm. What do all of those stories have in common. Let me see.......


37 posted on 08/21/2013 9:23:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Old Sarge

Here’s a link to a satellite tracking website that currently shows the track of KMS 3-2, a North Korean satellite that makes several passes over the US daily. If it contained a nuclear device, it would likely detonate when it is over Kansas or Minnesota.

http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=39026


38 posted on 08/21/2013 9:31:08 AM PDT by steerpike100
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To: Red in Blue PA

Well, it is kind of a DARK tale...


39 posted on 08/21/2013 9:32:40 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Kartographer

Well thread cop, read the post that I was responding to, it was about a single night.

I will make my own posts thank you, especially in regards to the largest black out in recent years, you can make your posts.


40 posted on 08/21/2013 9:35:33 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: laplata; Red in Blue PA
Do you have black out curtains so no one can see your lights and how far away can the generator be heard?

The newer top of the line model generators have excellent mufflers, and are quiet compared to the older models. My 14KW kohler sounds like an idling modern car.

As for blackout windows... keep a couple of cans of flat black spray paint!

BTW laplata... Welcome Home!

41 posted on 08/21/2013 9:35:40 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: AppyPappy

I’m with you. The grid is going down at some point but its way more likey to be a cyber attack or blackouts due to shutting down 292 coal fired power plants. If so electronics will not be destroyed. If you have an alternative electrical system such as solar you will still have power at your house. Cars will run but gas will be a problem. It will take awhile to get generators up and running at gas stations. Long term outage will be a major pain in the butt though. We are putting in solar and converting all appliances to propane.


42 posted on 08/21/2013 9:38:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JDoutrider
This whole electricity, running water, indoor bathrooms and communications systems is just a passing fad anyway.

We got along just fine with none of them when I was a kid.

43 posted on 08/21/2013 9:43:15 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: ansel12

Went through what? And what do those areas have in common with urban environments like NYC, DC, Baltimore, or Los Angeles. I don’t follow you.


44 posted on 08/21/2013 9:56:50 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Mogger
LOL!:)

Yep... All those city folks gotta learn sometime though!

45 posted on 08/21/2013 9:58:02 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Red in Blue PA

How much noise does this generator make? Can it be heard over 50 or 100ft away?

Can your house, with the generator that makes noise, and the smells of cooking food, be seen from any road or major thoroughfare?


46 posted on 08/21/2013 10:01:01 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Old Sarge

Since the The Old Gray Whore only whores for elite liberals... I wonder if there’s something else to this...


47 posted on 08/21/2013 10:01:14 AM PDT by GOPJ ( When the state knows ALL but differences between right and wrong, it won't end well--Steyn)
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To: JDoutrider

If you’ve ever been anywhere where there was NO electrical noise and NO running cars you wouldn’t believe how far that ‘idling car’ noise will travel...


48 posted on 08/21/2013 10:02:24 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Salvation
Read “The Harbinger” by Cahn

I've been tempted to look up when the next seven year cycle is but I haven't decided if I really want to know. I'm sure plenty of people have already done the math.

49 posted on 08/21/2013 10:08:36 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: PowderMonkey

A large region of the United States went through a total power outage, San Diego/Tijuana was affected, have you heard of that little metro area?

The blackout involved about 7 million people and the people did not go nuts.

How is it that preppers missed this massive blackout?


50 posted on 08/21/2013 10:10:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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