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To: El Cid

But of course, yes, classical Greece and Rome didn’t really pay that much attention to homosexuality, even among leaders — the decline of the Roman Empire began with the accession of the flaming queen Hadrian, who succeeded the great conqueror Trajan, leader of the Roman Empire at its peak. The difference was, Sparta’s monstrous system made child sexual (and physical abuse beginning in infancy) compulsory.


49 posted on 07/30/2013 6:43:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sparta is debated about; records are scarce as they were a secretive people and it’s their historical foes that have tarred them with accusations of perversion which might be only an inference through the foes’ worldview. We might never know for sure.

Also not to get explicit but I am given to understand the kinds of things done by Greeks (at least) were less “violative” than our common modern practice. The Greeks cannot beat us for hate-olatry.


51 posted on 07/30/2013 6:50:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m actually inclined, with the eyes of a Christian worldview on how the spiritual psychology of manhood works, to infer that Spartans probably had very little problem with male on male perversion. Spartans were stern and hung tough together, but probably not cruel, and it’s cruelty that often engenders perversions.


52 posted on 07/30/2013 6:54:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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