Posted on 07/18/2013 6:54:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
OH goody, the GAY agen\da and now mandatory HIV testing......looks more like Obammy is looking for dates! (spit!)
FUBO!!
guess it’s so old school to expect people to pay for their mdical care.
It’s got nothing to do with medical care and everything to do with establishing a national database of our DNA.
Somebody dropped a lot of calculation digits between actuaries and OMB.
In the executive order, Obama cites Obamacare as being the vehicle for the collection of your blood sample/ DNA.
And look at section 3– all these agencies will get in the act:
DOJ, Dept of Labor, HUD, VA, OMB and others as needed.
It’s got nothing to do with medical care and everything to do with establishing a national database of our DNA.
i just mail in a stool sample
and therein lies the key.
DNA collection efforts definitely
of course, once they identify an HIV/AIDs infected person, that person will be shuffled off to a ‘hospital’ for ‘treatment’... never to be seen again
they have to reduce their healthcare expenses... killing off these patients is an effective way
Epidemic? Really? Who’s buying that BS?
ep·i·dem·ic (p-dmk) also ep·i·dem·i·cal (—kl)
adj.
1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic outbreak of influenza.
2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent.
n.
1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely.
2. A rapid spread, growth, or development:
Year Estimated new HIV infections
2006 48,600
2007 56,000
2008 47,800
2009 48,100
2010 47,500
2011 49,273
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/library/reports/surveillance/2011/surveillance_Report_vol_23.html
They gotta put something in that big database facility in Utah...
They already have DNA samples from every kid born since the late 90’s. Under the guise of testing for inborn errors of metabolism.
Except those samples were retained after those tests were completed. Because they might need to rerun the test or something. Because they’d never be able to get a new sample.
They’ll just make it mandatory for a DL. Everyone will bend over at that point.
The more things change ...
More and more doctors are switching to a "concierge" no-insurance/fee-for-service only practice model. http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2013/03/27/is-concierge-medicine-the-correct-choice-for-you/
Previous gov't efforts to "fix" out-of-control healthcare costs have resulted in an increasing shortage of doctors. Why would doctors who are as busy as they want to be want to deal with insurance company and Obamacare paperwork if they don't have to?
The Obama voters will be taken care of by Obamacare-approved physician-extenders or nurse practitioners who will check the boxes to get them their free HIV testing.
Executive orders are not applicable to citizens. They are only applicable to employees of the Executive Branch. You, as an individual, cannot be compelled to do anything that is not mandated by CONGRESS.
Congress has 30 days to nullify this EO - Correct?
To quote castlebrew from a thread pulled because it was from a nut-bar site:
“What’re ya gonna do? round up and quarantine all the HIV+’s?”
Yes, castlebrew, just like obama’s hero Castro did in Cuba.
right you are and I will leave you with this little nugget:
‘It is apparent,’ this court said in the Bailey Case ( 219 U.S. 239 , 31 S. Ct. 145, 151) ‘that a constitutional prohibition cannot be transgressed indirectly by the creation of a statutory presumption any more than it can be violated by direct enactment. The power to create presumptions is not a means of escape from constitutional restrictions.’
Congressional Recourse
If Congress does not like what the executive branch is doing, it has two main options. First, it may rewrite or amend a previous law, or spell it out in greater detail how the Executive Branch must act. Of course, the President has the right to veto the bill if he disagrees with it, so, in practice, a 2/3 majority if often required to override an Executive Order.
Congress is less likely to challenge EOs that deal with foreign policy, national defense, or the implementation and negotiation of treaties, as these are powers granted largely to the President by the Constitution. As the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the President is also considered the nation’s “Chief Diplomat.” In fact, given national security concerns, some defense or security related EOs (often called National Security Directives or Presidential Decision Directives) are not made public.
In addition to congressional recourse, Executive Orders can be challenged in court, usually on the grounds that the Order deviates from “congressional intent” or exceeds the President’s constitutional powers. In one such notable instance, President Harry Truman, was rebuked by the Supreme Court for overstepping the bounds of presidential authority. After World War II, Truman seized control of steel mills across the nation in an effort to settle labor disputes. In response to a challenge of this action, the Supreme Court ruled that the seizure was unconstitutional and exceeded presidential powers because neither the Constitution or any statute authorized the President to seize private businesses to settle labor disputes. For the most part, however, the Court has been fairly tolerant of wide range of executive actions.
source
http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html
also info here - under legal conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
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