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My week in the man desert: In some parts of Britain, 70% of children live without fathers
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 09:15 EST, 11 July 2013 | Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Posted on 07/14/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A sparkling clean canteen in a community center, where families talk quietly over their sandwiches. At the counter, a fight breaks out between five young men. The cook tries to calm the men down and asks them to leave, but it gets nastier—chairs are thrown; a knife is produced. “See them? How angry they be?” an older man sitting outside says to me. “Not one of them ever knew their fathers.” …

Areas such as Ladywood, an inner-city corner of Birmingham, are utterly dominated by single-parent families. And the effects are devastating. … The area has the highest number of people claiming unemployment benefits in the country, and those who are in work are struggling to pay the bills: some 48 percent of households here have an annual income of less than £15,000 ($22,654.50). …

While fatherlessness may be the norm in Ladywood, the impact of it should not be underestimated. American researchers have found that a girl’s self-esteem is seriously undermined by not having a father in her life. Many abandoned boys engage in delinquent behavior, incapable of managing their anger, and some studies reveal links between fatherless men and sex crimes. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: delinquency; family; fatherless; liberalagenda; unemployment

1 posted on 07/14/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
“See them? How angry they be?”

Not exactly the "King's English."

2 posted on 07/14/2013 12:02:06 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

No, but a proper education is sometimes transcended by common sense. This guy gets a passing grade in my book.


3 posted on 07/14/2013 12:04:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Olog-hai

blacks there too. What to make of that?


4 posted on 07/14/2013 12:04:04 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Cowboy Bob

I had more than a clue on which demo these single parents were and judging by the pics, I was right...they were Amish.


5 posted on 07/14/2013 12:05:34 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

B A S T A R D S

There’s a reason it’s an historically bad word.


6 posted on 07/14/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: Olog-hai

The welfare state is designed to break up families. The woman keeps the kids, she gets more money for more kids but the real kicker is she gets less money perhaps none if she is married.


7 posted on 07/14/2013 12:13:11 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Olog-hai

Published in 2003, with material from as early as 1995 ... but still perfectly immediate.

8 posted on 07/14/2013 12:17:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The human project is all about babies! Culture is all about babies!" ~ Cdl. Dolan)
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To: Olog-hai

God’s law is correct. When you violate His law it matters not what nationality, race, ethnic group, class, or gender you are. Actions have consequences because He made it so.

God’s law is universal and inevitable. All the ills of society may be traced to this one absolute fact. Even those who don’t worship God do better when they accept and follow the Judeo-Christian law as handed down to Moses.

The Constitution of the United States were founded on the principle’s of God’s law. Little surprise to observe what has occurred when we abandoned His law - the story of Israel is now the unfolding story of Western society. Collapse and chaos at every level with a common thread - denying God and worshipping ideas of man (the State). Every time Israel has done this they have paid a heavy price. Are we any different?

How can so many believe that history teaches us our future when they ignore the most apparent lesson of all?


9 posted on 07/14/2013 12:20:33 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Olog-hai

Any child raised without both male and female influence is at risk.


10 posted on 07/14/2013 12:20:53 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Olog-hai

Western nation liberals have one solution to their failed policies.

“Whatever we’re doing that isn’t working, lets do more of it until it fixes the problem.”


11 posted on 07/14/2013 12:22:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: Spok

n the other hand, don’t you know that raising kids with two gay dads or two loving lesbians is ideal, optimal, simply fabulous? /s/


12 posted on 07/14/2013 12:33:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The past isn't dead --- it isn't even past." - William Faulkner)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“blacks there too. What to make of that?”

It’s obvious... It’s not just the americans who are racists, the Brits are too.


13 posted on 07/14/2013 12:34:18 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Olog-hai

Oh, the effects of no father in the home and men being nothing but sperm donors to get you on the government dole was NOT underestimated by the European Socialists OR the DNC.

They knew EXACTLY what the results would be: More beholdin’ to Mother Government and more VOTES.

But, but it was ‘for the children!’ Pawns. Silly Rabbit! Commies don’t care.


14 posted on 07/14/2013 12:51:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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15 posted on 07/14/2013 1:13:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Of course! Because they’ve “chosen” to be parents. Reminds me of when abortion was going to make “every child a wanted child.”


16 posted on 07/14/2013 1:18:26 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Sounds kind of Shakespearean to me. “What fools these mortals be!” (Not “are.”) Veddy veddy British.

It’s the King’s English but not the President’s (duck’n & runn’n!)


17 posted on 07/14/2013 1:26:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And you hear this staunchly defended by the same crowd that would have your head for not being wowed at the virtues of diversity... well how about diversity of gender in one’s parentage, as in one of each gender?


18 posted on 07/14/2013 1:28:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

no, but sure gets the message across!


19 posted on 07/14/2013 1:29:05 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
<>They knew EXACTLY what the results would be: More beholdin’ to Mother Government and more VOTES.

Yes, by design. I think that there may have been some do-gooders at the beginning who just wanted to "help the poor". But somewhere along the way, the opportunists saw that the political advantage of a permanent underclass.

20 posted on 07/14/2013 1:31:20 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Olog-hai

I started to put our two year old grandson in his stroller, and my husband said “no, he can climb in himself.” My husband had taught him and our grandson was very proud. Male influence.


21 posted on 07/14/2013 1:32:38 PM PDT by jonathonandjennifer
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Well how about diversity of gender in one’s parentage, as in one of each gender?"

Exactly! We absolutely have to get behind this humane, enlightened and progressive revolutionary concept --- we'll call it "Transgressing the narrow mono-gender paradigm and exploring the limits: time to courageously embrace gender-diverse parenting."

Course I hate to use the word "gender" even satirically. "Gender" means something in grammar, but means nothing very definite as far as humans are concerned.

What word can we use?

How about good old "sex"?

22 posted on 07/14/2013 1:38:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("OK, youse guys, pair off by threes." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I speak as though to them, on their level, of course. Sex is a perfectly good word.


23 posted on 07/14/2013 1:41:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ten bucks says that Saint Trayvon was the product of a “man desert”.
24 posted on 07/14/2013 1:42:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You may think you kid... they ain’t, about this “transgressing” stuff. It would be one thing if they were talking about a leeway to make undesired but practically unavoidable mistakes in empirically learning the best path. Theologically that’s called grace. But they are talking about sinning for sinning’s sake. That’s wickedness.


25 posted on 07/14/2013 1:45:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Wah, wah, wah. I broke into dat house and killed those peeps cause I weren’t raised right.


26 posted on 07/14/2013 1:47:16 PM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but no, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: Olog-hai

man desert? sounds like ho central


27 posted on 07/14/2013 1:55:01 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: informavoracious

“Chosen.” It just means you have no actual rights or even interests, let alone “sanctity” of your own. Your existence depends on somebody else’s consumer interest in you as a lifestyle accessory, and not as the spontaneous fruit of a marital union, sacred to God and open to Life.


28 posted on 07/14/2013 2:02:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to Be is a Blessing; just to Live is Holy." - Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: Olog-hai
Don't need a man no more to raise a family. Just go on the welfare check and let the gub'mint provide.

Feminists and liberals, your perfect world is being realized.

29 posted on 07/14/2013 2:03:17 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes -— wickedness. Or, as they say, “Pride”.


30 posted on 07/14/2013 2:04:26 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.")
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To: VRW Conspirator

As a member of that class - I ain’t buyin’ it! :)


31 posted on 07/14/2013 2:28:10 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Well I beg to differ at least with this particular construction. The speaker may have happened into the phrase, but it is Yorkshire. Oh, what ungrammatical fools we be.


32 posted on 07/14/2013 2:57:13 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Olog-hai
More causalities of the lefts war on: women, men and children.
33 posted on 07/14/2013 3:11:32 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Olog-hai

It’s no different here, in “some” parts of the U.S.


34 posted on 07/14/2013 3:12:19 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Olog-hai
‘If your mum, aunties and all your friends’ mums are single mums, it’s normal. My kids think it’s normal,’ she says. ‘They think dads are people you don’t know or see every other weekend.’

Bianca, who didn’t meet her own father until she was 13, says: ‘Lamiah’s not bothered that he’s not around. She doesn’t know him - he was never there.’

Bianca, who is on benefits...

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"Benefits" = welfare.

If you subsidize something, you get more of it.

35 posted on 07/14/2013 3:13:30 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Sex is a perfectly good word.

So were gay and progressive, until they were stolen and dirtied.

36 posted on 07/14/2013 3:14:38 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: School of Rational Thought
blacks there too. What to make of that?

This particular neighborhood seems to be largely black, but England has a huge white welfare class as well. They call it the YOB culture [BOY spelled backwards]. It's a predictor of what will happen in America as the welfare state performs its magic.

37 posted on 07/14/2013 3:15:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The imposition of a duty on the importation of a commodity burdens the consumers. --Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Remember the class system that is still in place in that country. The “King’s English” was never spoken by the commoners, as I understand.

Think “My Fair Lady.”


38 posted on 07/14/2013 3:49:28 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: fella

The welfare state is designed to break up families. The woman keeps the kids, she gets more money for more kids but the real kicker is she gets less money perhaps none if she is married.

/./////

Sounds ominous if it is all by design.

I guess the goal is to make the “the state” the “Big Daddy?”


39 posted on 07/14/2013 3:53:42 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I venture that C. S. Lewis nailed it well when he said that pride was what other sins, other vices come from. Pride was why Eve, then Adam, fancied themselves capable of living rather than dying in a world where they were their own personal mainstays and umpires rather than doing what they had done before, which is listen to the voice of God and carry on as He wanted. But the choice to hate God was made possible because we could not be lovers, only robots or puppets, otherwise. It’s a deep subject and one that can only be truly appreciated in the context of undergoing salvation after having been embroiled in rebellion and its blindness. All the theology in the world means little without actually walking it, as I have begun to.

Basically, I’m not immune to acting in pride and neither is anybody else on this globe, because we’re now sinners all needing saving grace to the end.


40 posted on 07/14/2013 5:21:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s a sad, sad situation. God only wants them to accept saving grace and just bring it to a stop, even if it takes trouble to stop it.

I do have some disagreements on details with the “loyal opposition” (without naming denominations by name). Sometimes men get in the way of the plan of salvation (it very much happens in all camps). And, while God can and does work around such hindrances (just as the proud and misleading Pharisees, told off by Jesus, yet did not prevent Jews from being devout directly towards the Lord) they make the task tougher than it would otherwise need to be. I heartily wish there didn’t exist such disagreements as they hinder the ability of Christendom to work with one another... and yet I undeniably see that the Blood is thicker than any Mud. I believe and see that the Holy Spirit does act through and in spite of all the fog of men and that nobody can claim to have chained the gospel into their cage.


41 posted on 07/14/2013 5:31:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“blacks there too. What to make of that?”

The Latino rate in the US is about 53%. For non-Hispanic whites 30% and Asians 17%.

In Iceland 66% of births are out of wedlock. 55% in Sweden, 54% in Norway, 50% in France, 46% in Denmark.

In the UK the white rate of out of wedlock births is greater than the non-white rate.


42 posted on 07/14/2013 5:42:08 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

men to all that. Very good thoughts here, Redneck.


43 posted on 07/14/2013 5:42:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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