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RUSH: 'QUITE TELLING' FOX DIDN'T WANT ME TO CRITICIZE IMMIGRATION REFORM
Big Journalism ^ | 7/3/2013 | TONY LEE

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:02:09 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Ditter

In the course of my genealogy research I’ve found lots of legal recordings of ancestors immigrating to America including where they were headed once here, how long they intended to stay and what they intended to do. In fact Catholic immigration into the colonies and early nation was pretty restricted till about 1800.


101 posted on 07/04/2013 7:20:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PapaNew
Wow, you don’t think much of the power and influence of liberty. Given the choice, as Reagan used to talk about, people will choose freedom over slavery to government.

Would that this was so. However: Latinos voted for President Barack Obama over Republican Mitt Romney by 71% to 27%, according to an analysis of exit polls by the Pew Hispanic Center, a Project of the Pew Research Center.

Unless, of course, you view a vote for Obama as a vote for freedom? LOL

102 posted on 07/04/2013 7:21:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Ditter

I’m all for legitimate security, that’s a valid argument. But much of what I hear is something else. Guess what? A lot of these illegal immigrants are HELPING to keep prices down by doing the work nobody else will do in the crop fields for wages below the STUPID minimum wage which is a price and job killer.


103 posted on 07/04/2013 7:21:21 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Trod Upon

“Well, if you believe the electoral process is no longer valid, the only sensible thing is to prepare for war or flight.”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Yep and at 250 lbs. I don’t get far by flapping my wings.


104 posted on 07/04/2013 7:22:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: PapaNew
The effort should instead be on taking down this socialist government monster to it constitutional size and limits.

It is. However, this end is not facilitated by the introduction of game-changing millions of Democrat voters.

If I favored massive entitlements, would I favor immigration? Of course not!

Matthew 7:16: By their fruit you will know them.

You are arguing for the introduction of many millions of new Democrats, who always favor socialism.

By your fruit, I shall know you.

105 posted on 07/04/2013 7:24:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Lazamataz
We’ve got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom–freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare.
- Ronald Reagan

We as a country must believe in what this country has always stood for. We've got to do what Reagan said. Then these same groups who also voted for Reagan will once again vote for liberty over slavery.

106 posted on 07/04/2013 7:27:07 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Lazamataz

Thank you. We already have multiple generations of people who have chosen entitlements over freedom. Not everyone thinks long term, or cares about the long term.


107 posted on 07/04/2013 7:29:19 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Lazamataz
We’ve got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom–freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare.
- Ronald Reagan

We as a country must believe in what this country has always stood for. We've got to do what Reagan said. Then these same groups who also voted for Reagan will once again vote for liberty over slavery.

108 posted on 07/04/2013 7:30:34 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
We as a country must believe in what this country has always stood for. We've got to do what Reagan said. Then these same groups who also voted for Reagan will once again vote for liberty over slavery.

Facts don't seem to sway you, do they? Latinos vote for Democrats. 71% to 27%. See my citation for proof.

And once Democrats get power, they game the system in such a way that actual voting no longer matters.

I am beginning to suspect you are an Alinsky-style plant, trying to make us 'live up to an untenable ideal', in order to make us commit political suicide.

Warning: Those that I uncover who are these sorts, do not last here long.

109 posted on 07/04/2013 7:31:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: mrsmel
Thank you. We already have multiple generations of people who have chosen entitlements over freedom. Not everyone thinks long term, or cares about the long term.

You are welcome. I live for the long-term.

110 posted on 07/04/2013 7:32:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: markomalley

People still listen to Rush Limbaugh??? Heh


111 posted on 07/04/2013 7:38:29 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: Lazamataz; PapaNew

The dream is not untenable, as long as we don’t import millions of big-government-loving immigrants.


112 posted on 07/04/2013 7:41:12 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: markomalley

Fox News definitely has talking points on immigration that their employees have to follow. Just compare Hannity on Fox to Hannity on radio.


113 posted on 07/04/2013 7:41:37 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (The Stupid Party, they've earned it.)
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To: cripplecreek
My ancestors came from England and I have some scribbled notes about a land grant from England and another about the Isle of Wight. Then they left N.C. went to Tennessee, Missouri and then Texas, where they stayed. They were subsistence farmers and people like that don't leave many tracks (in the record books). My brother and I have decided to hire a professional genealogist to do it for us (after trying to do it for ourselves for a while) LOL!
114 posted on 07/04/2013 7:43:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Lazamataz
You ignore the facts about these same groups voting for Reagan. The main issue is getting our country back on track and dismantling the socialist state. You and others like you think you have to bar (all/certain/those you suspect are democrats) immigrants to do this. I don't.

I don't know who the hell Alinsky is but you're starting to sound like a brown shirt with your suspicions and threats. No, I don't mindlessly go the party line like some. I actually think for myself. Look at my previous posts. They'll tell you who I am.

115 posted on 07/04/2013 7:45:07 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Lazamataz

I read about some study recently (didn’t look at the actual study) which concluded that there’s good reason to believe and a high likelihood that the second and third generations of Hispanic immigrants will be even more dependent upon government than their parenst, for various reasons. One being that they won’t acquire whatever manual labor skill their parents had, while at the same time not completing high school and furthering their education in order to get even better jobs. They would be dependent and apathetic.


116 posted on 07/04/2013 7:49:11 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Menehune56
Right after the 2012 election Sean Hannity on FNC announced he had “evolved” on the issue and now supported comprehensive immigration reform. Haven’t watched or listened to him since.

getting "evolved" on an issue: GOP-e / RINO weasel words for receiving Soros bucks. What was YOUR price, Sean?


117 posted on 07/04/2013 7:50:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: PapaNew
You ignore the facts about these same groups voting for Reagan.

DUDE! That was then; THIS IS NOW. The CURRENT trends are 71% Democrat to 27% Republican.

No, we will NOT commit political suicide for some pipe dream.

If your experience and testing shows that when you drop an egg from your hand, it falls to the ground, one does not drop that same egg and expect it to float because of a foolish adherence to a political principle.

The main issue is getting our country back on track and dismantling the socialist state.

....which would be utterly impossible to achieve with the addition of millions of people who vote 71% Democrat to 27% Republican.

You and others like you think you have to bar (all/certain/those you suspect are democrats) immigrants to do this. I don't.

Repeated for the THIRD TIME because you seem to be utterly fact-proof: Latinos voted for President Barack Obama over Republican Mitt Romney by 71% to 27%, according to an analysis of exit polls by the Pew Hispanic Center, a Project of the Pew Research Center.

I don't know who the hell Alinsky is

Educate yourself.

but you're starting to sound like a brown shirt with your suspicions and threats.

Spoken like a true liberal.

If you are arguing for a liberal and socialist end -- which you are -- you are no Conservative.

This forum is reserved for Conservatives.

118 posted on 07/04/2013 7:58:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The dream is not untenable, as long as we don’t import millions of big-government-loving immigrants.

My point.

119 posted on 07/04/2013 7:59:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Ditter

I found quite a few indentured servants and one who was captured by indians 3 different times till he said screw it and married one. The town is gone today but he founded an english style village with his tribe in Vermont.


120 posted on 07/04/2013 8:02:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mrsmel
What does the GOPe know that makes them so willing, even eager, to spit on the conservative base?

They are willing, even eager, mrsmel, because they NEVER, EVER, liked conservatives. They hated Reagan. You saw that in 1980 when the GOP-e forced Poppy Bush on him as the #2 on his ticket - you know, to "balance" it out, cuz Reagan to the GOP-e was a crazy right-wing nut who was going to start WW III.

2010 scared the heck out of the GOP-e, and they're doing their damnedest to crush us.

121 posted on 07/04/2013 8:03:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: PapaNew; Lazamataz

“...I think immigrants are more of a plus than a minus....”

When they come here legally, and go through the proper procedures, yes. When they come here and are grateful for the compassion and generosity of Americans who are more than willing to give them a chance - not guaranteed welfare - to thrive and become productive Americans, yes.

But wen they cross our border with impunity, flip us the middle finger out of spite, steal identities and Social Security numbers, overwhelm the already-strained welfare system and hospital system, take jobs away from Americans who are desperately trying to make ends meet, refuse to assimilate, refuse to learn our language, refuse to respect our culture, heritage, traditions, our laws and our People, and then DEMAND that we recognize them so they can vote in perpetuity to CONTINUE stealing from us...

Well, then, no, they’re clearly a Minus. Clearly, some would call that an Invasion... some with brains and not a National Suicide compact, anyway.


122 posted on 07/04/2013 8:05:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Lazamataz
First of all, the point is these people, as are many, are malleable, hence Reagan's plea for a more ardent realization that freedom is what our country stands for.

Secondly, what's you solution? Do you quiz every potential immigrant to see if they're a Democrat and don't let them in if they are?

123 posted on 07/04/2013 8:06:27 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: cripplecreek

The ancestor that I found on the Isle of Wight had a run in with the Presbyterians and they cut off his ear! I think of Presbyterians as kind hearted wimps today. What did he do to them to make them so mad? We will never know. :)


124 posted on 07/04/2013 8:07:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: NFHale

I don’t disagree with some of your points about illegal immigrants. The thing that I get more often than not though is a sense against immigration in general. That’s basically what I’m speaking to here.


125 posted on 07/04/2013 8:09:44 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
I think immigrants are more of a plus than a minus.

You mean like the Vikings were to the inhabitants of the British Isles in the 9th - 11th centuries?

126 posted on 07/04/2013 8:10:21 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

That’s a good point. I do forget that this party hasn’t necessarily been socially conservative, going back far enough. The Moral Majority rose in the 80s, wasn’t it?


127 posted on 07/04/2013 8:11:13 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Jay Redhawk
Your assessment of Lincoln and the Republicans is correct.

It didn't start with Lincoln; it goes all the way back to Hamilton.

My preference is that a new conservative based party, maybe started with help from Mark Levin and Sarah Palin, come into being.

Well, the conservatives took over the Republican Party once with Reagan, but never did fix the Party machinery down to its base. The country club rules virtually every local central committee. THAT is where battles are won and lost. I think Ken Blackwell has it right.

128 posted on 07/04/2013 8:14:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: mrsmel

It was. Falwell started it in ‘79 and it flourished in the 80’s.


129 posted on 07/04/2013 8:15:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: PapaNew
First of all, the point is these people, as are many, are malleable, hence Reagan's plea for a more ardent realization that freedom is what our country stands for.

If we admit MILLIONS via amnesty, we Americans who do believe thus -- due to the 71%/27% spread -- will be disenfranchised by numbers.

Secondly, what's you solution? Do you quiz every potential immigrant to see if they're a Democrat and don't let them in if they are?

No quizzes needed. My solution is to continue with current immigration policy (which admits a reasonable number of immigrants) and not amnesty many millions of Democrat-leaning illegal aliens.

130 posted on 07/04/2013 8:18:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: markomalley

ping


131 posted on 07/04/2013 8:19:13 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: PapaNew; Lazamataz

“...The thing that I get more often than not though is a sense against immigration in general. That’s basically what I’m speaking to here....”

That’s not how you come off, though, Papa.

NOBODY on this board is against folks getting in line and doing things the right way.

It’s like anything else in life: When you have to work your ass off to achieve/obtain/become something, it becomes precious to you.

When you cut in the line, take from others, lie, cheat, steal, and basically disrespect your host, what else can you expect except the reactions you see here?

You can’t compare, say, a Vietnamese immigrant who loaded his family onto a raft, and pushed it across the Mekong into Thailand to escape Communist slaughter, to try and get to America with some of these B*stards crossing our southern border, breaking into ranchers’ homes, committing murders, transporting narcotics and other illegal substances, and then having the gall to stand there and DEMAND that we give them amnesty.

The Vietnamese - or Laotian, or Cambodian, or Polish, or Cuban, or Ukrainian, or Russian - that comes here doesn’t expect to have to “Press 1 for English” and expect to hear his native language as a list of other options.

Nothing is owed to anyone. These people jumping our border are here to become dependents, not Citizens.

The Mexicans or anyone else standing in line to become Citizens are getting as f***ed over by them as we are.

Your taxes are being taken from you - ultimately, at the point of gun muzzle - to finance this and perpetuate it.

That should make your blood boil, friend.


132 posted on 07/04/2013 8:25:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PapaNew

From a practical standpoint, we will have to pay for these people, because that is how we know they will vote.

You can argue how things should be in a fantasy world where everything is like you say it should be. But the fact still is, this bill will import low skilled, low educated foreigners who view us as outsiders. Few who it legitimizes will be able to earn as much as the state provides in welfare to the lay-abouts.

That is why if you look at facts, you will see these people voting for democrats at 70-80%. They are the law-breaking gibsmedats. We would be idiots to welcome them into our in-group after they already threw us the bird by breaking our laws. It is clear respect for American citizens is not in their lexicon.

If your case is that we should legalize these people, you are supporting the socialist state. As it is, we have a Herculean task ahead of us in tearing it down. Give Democrats a net 18 or so million more voters, as this would do, and the whole government will collapse into bankruptcy, and we will end up in a full on Lord of the Flies moment at some point. Not that I care personally - I’ll handle it just fine. But the rabbit people will endure a lot of misery, and our species’ advancement will be slowed immeasurably, and that will be sad.

If you can’t see that 18 million new democrats is bad news for rolling back the Socialist state, all I’ll say is I’m glad no one here will follow your leadership.


133 posted on 07/04/2013 8:36:02 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: Lazamataz

OK, what do you propose to do with the the many millions of illegals?


134 posted on 07/04/2013 8:39:37 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: NFHale
My argument from the start is alot of this angst against immunity is a socialist argument.

What makes my blood boil is the Obamacrats stealing my money, carelessly spending it, making things like whether I wear my seat belt or have medical insurance their business while prohibiting states from stopping the abortion infanticide. THAT makes my blood boil.

135 posted on 07/04/2013 8:44:39 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew; Lazamataz
"...My argument from the start is alot of this angst against immunity is a socialist argument. .."

I've read all your posts on this thread, Papa. There is nothing "socialist" in the argument against amnesty. The socialist argument is FOR amnesty, from both the Obamacrats AND RINOs in the GOP.

Automatically rewarding these people who broke into our country with the express intent of sticking it to us - and allowing them to FURTHER stick it to us by voting themselves from our treasury is suicide.

If they REALLY wanted to be Citizens, they'd do it the right way. They'd voluntarily go back where they came from and get in line, like millions of others have done and are still doing.

It's pretty clear and simple.

And for the record, calling people on this forum "Brown Shirts" is guaranteed to get you the flamenwerfer treatment every time. 99% of the folks out here are decent, law-abiding Patriot Americans who love this country, have bled for it, or have family members who bled and died for it.

My old man killed "brown shirts" for this country, and was wounded twice as a result of it, in Belgium and Germany.

So nix on the insults and Nazi crap - that's what the idiot libtards do. You're a relatively new sign-on (2011) so I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you're still getting used to things here. I won't assume "Troll" yet.

"...What makes my blood boil is the Obamacrats stealing my money, carelessly spending it, making things like whether I wear my seat belt or have medical insurance their business while prohibiting states from stopping the abortion infanticide. THAT makes my blood boil...."

And if we automatically legalize 30 million new undocumented socialist democrats, you can virtually GUARANTEE that those trends will continue throughout the remainder of your lifetime.

If they can't prove they've come here legally, they should be deported back to point of origin, and the border closed.

There's nothing good that can come of this for the country, our people, and our continuation.

Don't know what else to say on it.

136 posted on 07/04/2013 9:04:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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137 posted on 07/04/2013 9:11:08 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: PapaNew
As you so rightly suggest, to each his own but I would remind you and everyone writing on this subject, that a country - any country, can only absorb so many legal immigrants in a specific period of time (say a 12 month period) but never coherently absorb masses of illegal invaders who come without permission, live with their own set of standards, language and always within the shadows as it is virtually impossible to report a crime, when you are the criminal.

No country's citizens should be forced to absorb masses of people, especially invaders who demand a "share of that nation's wealth, i.e. earnings and savings,"merely because some guy or gal who had the good fortune of getting elected, claim so.

No citizens should tolerate its leaders who force them to care for the illegal invaders. Those same invaders should never, ever be given citizenship and the vote!

The leaders who insist on doing just that need to be forced from power, no matter what it takes.

138 posted on 07/04/2013 9:25:13 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: PapaNew
OK, what do you propose to do with the the many millions of illegals?

There are a few simple things:

1. First, let it be known it is a crime to be here illegally, one punishable by prison or deportation. Enforce existing law.
2. Cut off all social services and welfare to those here illegally.
3. Enforce large sanctions and penalties against those who hire people without proof of citizenship or legal work Visa. Make certain the punishment for overstaying your Visa to be here is a strong one.
4. Fashion any new laws concerning illegal immigrants with an eye of getting them to self-deport.
5. Stop chain immigration through family ties.
6. Change the law concerning anchor babies.

If these kind of priorities were put in place, the problem would be quite small.

139 posted on 07/04/2013 9:48:13 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: NFHale
the flamenwerfer treatment

*Peals of laughter sounding from my keyboard*

140 posted on 07/04/2013 9:51:04 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

The only medical care should be emergency or first aid sufficient enough to get them back home in their country


141 posted on 07/04/2013 9:53:56 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Lakeshark

“...*Peals of laughter sounding from my keyboard*...”

How many of us have had to don the flame-retardant suit at one time or another, over the course of our days out here???

Hahah! It happens!


142 posted on 07/04/2013 9:54:05 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Here's the deal. I knew I was treading on dangerous ground when I ventured to say this on this thread but I thought I'd give it a try. Don't know if it was worth it.

The "automatic reward" is the part of the argument that I say is socialist becasue nobody wants these people to steal the "rewards" of government entitlements.

I said from the start that I think the borders should be secure. I also believe that if someone like Palin became who can speak to the American people like Reagan did, stood up and ran for President, I think alot of these people would flock to that person just like they did with Reagan.

As far a "calling people on this forum brown shirts", damn I've been called and seen a lot of others called a lot worse things than that on this forum. Kind of a double standard it seems to me. I've seen it before. When I don't tow the party line because of what I consider to be good reasons, I'm called a troll, an operative of the Left, and everything else in between. Shoot first and ask questions later.

Makes us look bad. I'm not saying everyone here is like that but sometimes on these kinds of threads with these kinds of issues that people feel so emotional about, sometimes it starts to look like a Hannity "Boiling Point" session rather than a reasoned and thoughtful debate.

And its not like I really meant to get in front of some kind of FR firing squad. That's what I meant by I wasn't sure if I should say anything. But I never see anything questioning the amnesty "party line" so to speak and I thought it might be helpful to inject another thoughtful point of view if for nothing else maybe to give some pause to reflect.

143 posted on 07/04/2013 9:55:26 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
I believe that's what our county is all about - a place of refuge for any and all.

You should have added "... with a special preference for Mexican nations who enter the country illegally". You want all the other worthies from around the world to get to the end of line behind criminals from our adjoining country.

144 posted on 07/04/2013 10:09:43 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: Hot Tabasco

Continue to stick your head in the sandbank. And try to call Limbo and bring up the NBC issue, you will be hit with the panic button before you can blink an eye or say Rush.

Same with Hannity, they have been told NOT to touch this issue. Happy 4th. July!!!


145 posted on 07/04/2013 10:16:37 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: PapaNew; Lakeshark

“..Don’t know if it was worth it....”

Well, it’s a discussion forum, and opinions put forth can change minds, so of course it’s worth it.

“...I said from the start that I think the borders should be secure. Palin...just like they did with Reagan.”

OK, valid, maybe. I’ll concede that LEGAL immigrants might. We’re not talking about legal immigrants, though. We’re talking mainly about people who don’t give a flying rat’s ass about the same things you and I care about. YOU wouldn’t dance across the border into someone else’s country and demand free meds, free food, instant benefits, etc., and then also demand that they recognize your “right: to do so.

“..As far a “calling people on this forum brown shirts”, damn I’ve been called and seen a lot of others called a lot worse things than that on this forum. ..”

So have I. Doesn’t make it right. I believe in courtesy and decency right up to the point where they other stops deserving it. I’m saying don’t perpetuate it. Debate and discussion go NOWHERE the minute one side or the other starts with the “brown-shirt-and-worse” dialogue.

We can agree to disagree. We’re intelligent, rational human beings. Leave the baiting to the libs - it’s what they do.

“...And its not like I really meant to get in front of some kind of FR firing squad. ...”

Like anything else, when you put forth an opinion on an emotional issue, you’ve got to expect emotional reactions from some folks, then be ready to defend your opinion/position with facts. People aren’t seeing your viewpoint, is all, and they’re letting you know in no uncertain terms.

You yourself said that’s what makes this country great - to be able to disagree. Well, they’re disagreeing...and it comes in various flavors...we ALL got that at one time or another, brother. You sure as hell ain’t alone!!

Like I said to Lakeshark; We’ve ALL had to don the flame-retardant suit at one time or another.

Think of it this way...a little fire singeing the gluteous maximii makes a better man outta ya!!!

Carry on.


146 posted on 07/04/2013 10:16:57 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Continue to stick your head in the sandbank, or try to call Limbo and bring up the NBC issue and see how fast he hits the panic button, before you can blink an eye or say Rush.

Same with Hannity and the rest of the “prostitutes” @ FAUX News. Happy 4th. July


147 posted on 07/04/2013 10:20:17 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: PapaNew
OK, what do you propose to do with the the many millions of illegals?

Arrest them and deport them.

You know, like the law instructs.

148 posted on 07/04/2013 10:25:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Trod Upon

Claire Wolf used to say it was too late to vote and too early to start shooting. Does anyone know if she still says that?


149 posted on 07/04/2013 10:28:48 AM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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To: Lazamataz
ROR and LOL. States or federal? I hope not federal, or now you're really asking for a police state. States - that's fine, but it's up to the feds to secure the border. States can and should do how the people of that state direct. However, the big cry seems to be about federal entitlements going to these people so your answer would seem to point to a massive federal poice effort (which wouldn't go away once it was created - bad for everyone).

However, it still makes sense to me to probably deport illegal aliens that are in prison (at least convicted ones).

Seems like our efforts are better spend securing the border but not immigration quotas and taking down the fascism (coercive collectivism - what's the difference?) this regime is trying to implement.

150 posted on 07/04/2013 10:39:54 AM PDT by PapaNew
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