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RUSH: 'QUITE TELLING' FOX DIDN'T WANT ME TO CRITICIZE IMMIGRATION REFORM
Big Journalism ^ | 7/3/2013 | TONY LEE

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:02:09 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: cripplecreek
I have seldom seen a poster so consistently wrong about everything.....

..... and so insistent on it.

201 posted on 07/09/2013 7:34:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Lazamataz

Please explain how Socialism (what we have now - ex. Obamacare) is not A (the government) saying they want to help B (the uninsured) by forcing money from C (you and I)?


202 posted on 07/09/2013 7:36:53 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Lazamataz

Willie Green was a socialist too.


203 posted on 07/09/2013 7:43:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PapaNew

I believe that pretty much anybody — aside from known criminals, etc. — should be allowed to come here if they can find a place to live and support themselves (i.e., no welfare of any kind). My exception to that is the criminal invaders who are already here. They have already expressed their contempt for our national sovereignty by violating our borders and laws and should never, ever be eligible for legal residency.


204 posted on 07/09/2013 7:57:22 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: PapaNew
Please explain how Socialism (what we have now - ex. Obamacare) is not A (the government) saying they want to help B (the uninsured) by forcing money from C (you and I)?

Are you unintelligent, purposely obtuse, or simply a troll?

Why should I explain that which is patently obvious? Of course that is what socialism is.

I am finding it more and more likely that you are being obtuse on purpose. I am becoming more and more suspicious of your true motivations in being here.

205 posted on 07/09/2013 7:57:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: cripplecreek

If the guy started posting about Bush-era layoffs, or one single word about light rail, I would come to the conclusion it IS Willie Green as a retread.


206 posted on 07/09/2013 7:59:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Lazamataz
1st post, I said: Socialism is force cloaked in "compassion." It's a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's A saying he wants to "help" (entitle) B but only by using C's money which A must take by force and only after A skims off the top for himself (B may never actually see any of that money). If you're blind, all you see is A entitling B. If you have your head screwed on straight, you see A is actually living off of C's money while making B dependent on A (like a drug dealer).

Your response: Nonsense.

2nd post, I said: Please explain how Socialism (what we have now - ex. Obamacare) is not A (the government) saying they want to help B (the uninsured) by forcing money from C (you and I)?

Your response: Are you unintelligent, purposely obtuse, or simply a troll? Why should I explain that which is patently obvious? Of course that is what socialism is.

It seems you would argue with me about 2+2=4. Sorry I bothered you.

207 posted on 07/09/2013 9:16:57 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
You are being purposely obtuse -- but I have made you my own personal little hobby. It is a very bad thing to become Lazamataz's hobby.

Trust that.

It seems you would argue with me about 2+2=4. Sorry I bothered you.

No, but I would argue with you when you claim that some of the arguments against Amnesty (that have been proposed on this thread) are socialist.

That's 'trolling', frankly.

208 posted on 07/09/2013 10:38:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: PapaNew
I will direct the discussion back to your initial claim: That people on this thread are arguing that 'we cannot afford [amnesty-benefitting illegal aliens]' are making a socialist argument.

I will repeat a portion of a post that you have conveniently ignored:

So when people scream about "we can't afford" these immigrants, they are arguing that the government entitlements are being spread too thin.

More utter and unmitigated garbage. In no way have I seen anyone say anything of the sort, that government entitlements would be spread 'too thin'. In fact, the argument 'we cannot afford them' is one that can be made without any prediliction to, or endorsement of, entitlements.

Example: I receive no entitlements. I have decided I cannot afford a new car. I am in no way stating that I wish to receive entitlements, or that I endorse them, by stating the financial fact I cannot afford a car.

Your primary premise -- that one would favor 'socialism' by correctly stating we cannot afford new government-dependent citizens, simply does not stand on it's merits -- as I demonstrated, by analogy, above. It is sheer and unreserved balderdash.

209 posted on 07/09/2013 10:43:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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