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Senators Ask if NSA Collected Gun Data: Potential to construct gun database, senators say
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | June 28, 2013 | C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on 06/30/2013 2:20:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senators are questioning whether the National Security Agency collected bulk data on more than just Americans’ phone records, such as firearm and book purchases.

A bipartisan group of 26 senators, led by Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to detail the scope and limits of the National Security Agency’s surveillance activities in a letter released Friday.

“We are concerned that by depending on secret interpretations of the PATRIOT Act that differed from an intuitive reading of the statute, this program essentially relied for years on a secret body of law,” the senators wrote in the letter.

The NSA’s surveillance program has come under intense scrutiny following a leak revealing the agency harvested the phone metadata of millions of American citizens.

The senators noted that the federal government’s authority under Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act is broad and rife with potential for abuse. Among the senators’ concerns was whether the NSA’s bulk data harvesting program could be used to construct a gun registry or violate other privacy laws.

“It can be used to collect information on credit card purchases, pharmacy records, library records, firearm sales records, financial information, and a range of other sensitive subjects,” the senators wrote. “And the bulk collection authority could potentially be used to supersede bans on maintaining gun owner databases, or laws protecting the privacy of medical records, financial records, and records of book and movie purchases.”

The senators asked Clapper in the letter whether the NSA used PATRIOT Act authorities to conduct bulk collection of other types of records, and whether there are any instances of the agency violating a court order in the process of such collections.....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; nsa; obama; secondamendment; surveillance
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To: NFHale

As one who believed in peaceful change, I now simply think its time for a change achieved using whatever means necessary. This is beyond acceptable.


21 posted on 06/30/2013 5:34:29 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They/we already know the 4th is dead, what’s one more Amendment in the bonfire?

Not like they’ll rollback any law/regulation/department.

Not like anyone has to fear prison for doing anything illegal anywho.


22 posted on 06/30/2013 5:36:34 PM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

23 posted on 06/30/2013 5:41:56 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was called with a poll. It sounded like Bloomberg’s group funded it. They asked if I owned a gun. Yeah! As if I would answer THAT question!


24 posted on 06/30/2013 6:14:08 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“NICS checks by phone?
Got ‘em

Ammo orders by web?

Got ‘em.”

Way too complicated. They only need to search your google record. Google allready knew ....

But the real fun stuff are the biometric photos needed for a passport. And the drivers license photo database to enhance the autoscan when identifying protesters. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2013/05/23/tea-party-demonstrations-and-homeland-security-another-non-event/ http://travel.state.gov/passport/pptphotoreq/pptphotoreq_5333.html


25 posted on 06/30/2013 9:01:59 PM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What country are we living in?


26 posted on 06/30/2013 9:13:57 PM PDT by BAW (NSA.is reading this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

of course they did- that is why health centers and hospitals all across the nation began routinely askign patients if they had guns in their homes (pretendign hte quesiton was only about ‘protecting’ suicidal or homicidal patients’)- State governments FORCED helath centers to becoem rats- to betray the trust of their patients and to report ANY guns immediately-

If NSA denied they collected gun info- they are liars!


27 posted on 06/30/2013 11:33:03 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Erik Latranyi

[[Until the registry is discovered]]

What we need is a richard snowden of the NSA to come forward


28 posted on 06/30/2013 11:34:08 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: NFHale

[[They never fail to amaze me with the depths they’re going to to mess with us.]]

They aint messin with us- they are messin with a do nothign GOP who fall victim to their tactics EVERY damn time- The GOP should be dmaninding hte NSA hand over ALL their records for private scrutiny, and holdign aNYONE who refuses accooutnable-


29 posted on 06/30/2013 11:36:01 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Whenifhow.


30 posted on 07/01/2013 3:27:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Revolt is coming.


31 posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: chiller

“...I now simply think its time for a change achieved using whatever means necessary. ...”

Lot of that going around lately...


32 posted on 07/01/2013 6:27:47 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: CottShop

“...they are messin with a do nothign GOP...”

Well, yeah, they’re messing with THEM too; but “the GOP” in Congress aren’t the folks buying and owning firearms because they’re worried.


33 posted on 07/01/2013 6:37:15 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The media keeps throwing around the term "metadata" like they know anything about big-data and the underlying analytics. Metadata is not innocuous - it's where meaning is derived - it's the good stuff.

I know... I've been involved on the cutting edge of data storage and analytics for 30 years - pioneering distributed and very large databases (VLDBs) that model / manage very complex party relationships. I was an executive at 2 of oldest, largest, and most successful global data companies.

It was scary what they knew about people, entities, relationships, and behaviors - both historic and predictive. The NSA is light years ahead of these companies - with unlimited resources and no accountability on either laws or results.

34 posted on 07/01/2013 9:11:32 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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