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Solving the Immigration Puzzle
Townhall.com ^ | June 16, 2013 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 06/16/2013 7:58:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

Many people are very optimistic regarding the possibility of a comprehensive immigration bill passing through Congress and being signed by the President. The prospects are good, but there are many stumbling blocks ahead. If we heed a couple of simple principles, we will be able to revamp a broken system that does not serve the American people.

There are many challenges that have developed in the 27 years since we last passed a comprehensive law to deal with immigration. We have an almost nonexistent ability to track people who come here on restricted visas and do not comply with the terms of those visas. Too many people of all ethnicities overstay their welcome. How we choose who gets legal immigration needs to be revamped. Too many people coming here become wards of the state. People bellow that these immigrants do not receive government benefits, but they do. When the federal government is awarding states bonuses for handing out food stamps (SNAP -- or as it is gently called in California – Cal Fresh), strict enforcement is not in the cards.

The entire matter hinges on two issues and this has not changed for a decade of more: what are we doing about border enforcement and what are we going to do about the millions of people already here illegally? If we cannot come to a reasonable agreement on these two issues, then there will be no immigration reform.

Let us start by debunking a consistent mantra among the left-wing press. They often say conservatives don’t want immigration reform. Where they come up with this garbage is beyond me, but we suspect that what they mean is conservatives do not want immigration reform as written by the left-wing of the Democratic Party; thus they don’t really want immigration reform. That could not be further from the truth. Just about everyone realizes we have a system that needs significant revamping.

We will have no new law without effective new border security. It is clear that nothing has changed on this major point. The main problem comes from the southern border. We need to do a lot more than we are doing now no matter what rhetoric comes from the Obama Administration and its allies. The decision cannot and will not be in the hands of Homeland Security. Whether it is Janet Napolitano or her successor, they should not have final say. This is a Congressional law and should have Congressional oversight and approval.

I had an argument with my son about this matter when he informed me that the Republicans will be forced to accept the current Senate bill. Now that he has worked in the Presidential campaign headquarters and is a college graduate, he obviously knows more than Dad. But I know that Republicans went down this road in 1986 and had unfulfilled promises, causing our current huge problem with illegal immigrants. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Not only do we have to secure our borders because of our past problems; there are at least two overarching reasons to do so. The first is for security reasons. Everyone in America should be worried about the danger of people coming to America -- whether legally or illegally -- who have bad intentions, and we believe most Americans are rightfully concerned. Second, we have a right to determine who comes into our country and from where. If people sneak into our country because they have proximity, whether they are from Canada or Mexico or Guatemala, harm is done to others around the world seeking legal admission.

The second matter is we must do something about the millions of illegals already here, and just kicking them out or self-deportation is not the answer. There are no easy answers on this matter. Some of what we heard from the Senate group sounded good, but we have also heard there may be too many loopholes. Getting back taxes from these people is borderline silly. They probably do not know how much they have earned nor does anyone else. Also, limiting the process to people who entered before a certain date is silly. Tell us when you came here illegally and prove it. We can come to a reasonable agreement on this issue as long as issue number one is resolved suitably. But we will never resolve dealing with the illegals that are here without stiff and strong border enforcement.

Immigration reform has been an intractable issue for a decade. We can resolve the issue if we solve the border enforcement issue. Everything will cascade from that. No logical argument has been put forth against completing the fence across the southern border – just platitudes and sideshows.

We need to revamp our immigration system not only for all Americans and the sake of our country, but for the benefit of those people around the world dreaming the American dream.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americandream; backtaxes; bordersecurity; immigration

1 posted on 06/16/2013 7:58:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The current Amnesty bill must be stopped.call congress.

30 million illegals get Amnesty to vote in 2014 election

those 30 million can bring in 50 million more of their relatives still in the 3rd world.

30 million more illegals will invade to do the “under the table” jobs

untold millions will cross into the USA to get in on the
Amnesty bonanza.

if this bill passes the USA is done

these representatives in Congress are traitors against
Americans .

What do we do sit here and complain on the Internet when we should be protesting in the streets, outside of Congress as they prepare to give Amnesty to these immigrant creeps.protests, marches, no we sit here while they take our country away.

At least we should be calling Congressmen non stop, emailing , twitter ,paper letters( an effective method) etc.

I am writing something up to give these congressmen a piece of my mind

2 posted on 06/16/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Kaslin
If DemocRATS "fixed" the immigration problem, they'd have nothing to run on.

Ditto "gun violence", "poverty", "obesity", etc.

This is a charade. It's designed to perpetuate a problem, not solve it.

Besides, the real problem isnt' unskilled laborers coming here to "clean our houses" and "pick our lettuce" (nod to racist Senator John McCain), it's terrorists coming across our borders at will.

3 posted on 06/16/2013 8:06:14 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Democrat_media

I’m opposed to the amnesty legislation, but I don’t think it gives 30 million illegals the right to vote in 2014. Does a green card allow someone to vote? I don’t think so. If you know differently, please explain.


4 posted on 06/16/2013 8:16:38 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Kaslin
we must do something about the millions of illegals already here, and just kicking them out or self-deportation is not the answer.

We don't need to round them up and kick them out. We do need to kick them out as we encounter them, but the main thing we need to do is to turn off the magnets to illegals and to a great degree, we can do this, but I doubt we will.

5 posted on 06/16/2013 8:19:24 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Kaslin
and just kicking them out or self-deportation is not the answer.

Really? Why?

6 posted on 06/16/2013 8:28:38 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Kaslin

The “broken system” is due to a broken government that refuses to enforce the very laws it makes. Why should we believe that the same government will enforce any reformed laws any more than they enforced existing law? And don’t tell me that it is about picking strawberries and other jobs “Americans won’t do”. That really means that “Americans won’t do for the wages the employers want to pay”. If a free market for labor existed in the U.S., someone would do that job for some wage level.


7 posted on 06/16/2013 8:37:00 AM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: Kaslin

>Solving the Immigration Puzzle<

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The original concept of immigration, as intended before LBJ screwed it up, was to only allow PRODUCTIVE people to enter the country.

What has become of the US, after the LBJ years, is akin to a reverse Tower of Babel migration. We have more “diversity” in this country than they have in the Balkans.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 8:43:55 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Kaslin

Poorly written piece that adds nothing to the discussion: basically most of what passes for “opinion” on Townhall.com these days. I only read it if its from Katie Pavlich.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 9:22:02 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Kaslin

Kicking them out and self-deportation are fine answers.


10 posted on 06/16/2013 9:23:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
The immigration puzzle?

It's not a puzzle to me.

Enforce the laws we ALREADY have!

E-Verify all job applicants.

Enforce sanctions against scofflaw employers.

Enforce anti-welfare laws against illegals.

Encourage American citizens to sue companies that employ illegals.

The “11 million” will become “0 million” in a few months.

After that.....

Reduce the huge numbers of LEGAL immigrants - currently, about 1.5 million per year.

End “Family Chain Migration.”

Base all immigration on age - young - and education and income - high.

11 posted on 06/16/2013 12:26:16 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: CitizenUSA
Re: “Voting”

The current legislation claims that Amnesty Immigrants can become citizens after 13 years.

Are you kidding me!

Before the ink is dry on the Amnesty Bill, the ACLU, La Raza, and the Democrat Party will be in Federal Court getting that overturned.

You are correct about one thing - the Amnesty Immigrants will not vote in 2014.

But EVERY Democrat in the country in 2014 will be calling the GOP racist for trying to enforce the law.

And all the “noble” Republicans who supported Amnesty will cave faster than a sinkhole in Florida.

New immigrant citizens vote 80% for the Democrat Party.

When the Amnesty Immigrants and their families get the vote, that will be the end of the Republican Party and Conservative political power.

12 posted on 06/16/2013 12:45:00 PM PDT by zeestephen
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13 posted on 06/16/2013 4:22:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Why Annesty now? to get millions more voters for democrats in 2014. You can bet somewhere in the 1000 page bill there is some provision or loop hole to allow the Amnestied to vote.and even more voters later to fully impose progressivism/socialism on a once free country the USA


14 posted on 06/16/2013 4:59:02 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Kaslin

There is nothing to “solve”.

Make E Verify mandatory, eliminate any access to Government Benefits without proof of Citizenship (yes, even for Green Card holders), and build the Great Wall of Northern Mexico.


15 posted on 06/16/2013 5:05:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

bump!!

If we cut off the bennies, the problem will solve itself


16 posted on 06/16/2013 5:06:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
You cannot have a Welfare State and Open Borders.

Once our Sovereignty is lost, the Unites States of America as founded no longer exists. Never thought I would live long enough to see it, but here we are. Meanwhile, the Sheeple continue to graze under the watchful eye of Obama and people like us are treated like Wolves instead of what we really are, Sheep Dogs. As I always say, They Live and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.

17 posted on 06/16/2013 5:22:54 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Kickass Conservative
You cannot have a Welfare State and Open Borders.I'd rather have neither
18 posted on 06/16/2013 5:24:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

As do we all, but that is the Obama model.


19 posted on 06/16/2013 5:27:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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