Skip to comments.As Towns Say No, Signs of Rising Resistance to Smart Meters
Posted on 05/28/2013 7:21:52 PM PDT by opentalk
BRADY, Tex. In October, the City Council of this Central Texas town voted unanimously to purchase advanced electric meters, known as smart meters, for the city-owned electric utility. But some residents resisted, and the smart meter vote played a large role in last weekends recall of the citys mayor and the electoral defeat of two council members.
Voters here passed a referendum last weekend to enshrine in the City Charter the right of residents to refuse the installation of smart meters on their property. Sheila Hemphill, an organizer of the effort, called the victory her San Jacinto.
The reaction in Brady could signal a shift in the debate over smart meters, which collect detailed data on electricity use and transmit it to the utility using radio frequencies.
The ultimate goal of the smart grid, of which smart meters are a part, is to connect us internationally to share the power we generate with the world, she said. Having its own grid provides the state with autonomy it would not have otherwise, she said. Weve survived all these years without being connected to another grid, she said. Why should we change that?
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In case you want prospective burglars to know when you are not home?
The goal of smart meters is to bring government tyranny directly into your home to limit your energy use at the whim of bureaucrats and their (and your) political masters.
Hey, hey, hey! Don’t talk about Obama’s sons like that.
The BATFE will know too and be able to schedule your gun confiscation appointment for a safer time (for them).
Oh cmon, they never do the no knocks when nobody is home. That ruins all the fun.
They require there be small children, old people or shootable dogs to be at home.
Didn't she play Shirley on "That's my Mama"?
[[In October, the City Council of this Central Texas town voted unanimously to purchase advanced electric meters, known as smart meters, for the city-owned electric utility.]]
“Smart Meters” The New terroristic device with which to withhold vital electricity from teaparty members, conservatives, Jews, and anyoen that didn’t support the dear leader
The Risks of the Smart Grid
My dumb meter is still on the pole.
Smart meters on the IRS first.
We could put the controler on a web page for public use.
I don’t know about other states but California’s “Green” Public Utilities Commission is in lock-step with the power companies (and the administration) to ration electric power. No matter how little you use they keep raising rates to make sure utilities pocket big profits (with the PUC’s blessings, of course).
Southern Calif. Edison allows you to opt out of the Big Brother meters — for an additional $30 a month on your bill! BB meter installation is coupled with a big publicity campaign for “free” government money to subsidize solar panel installations. It’s not like we’re being herded into a taxpayer paid “Green” corral or anything like that...is it?
They changed our without notice. Supposed to save us money by not having to pay for meter reader, still waiting for savings.
“The goal of smart meters is to bring government tyranny directly into your home to limit your energy use at the whim of bureaucrats and their (and your) political masters.”
Yep. No other way to slice it.
[[We could put the controler on a web page for public use. ]]
Lol- dibs on the 11:00 pm to 3:am time slot
Bastards had been ripping me off for years.
I don’t know about these meters, but at least the citizens of Brady rose to action for something. Most towns would do nothing to protest much of anything.
Same here. The electric bill dropped a lot after they put in the smartmeter. They also respond much faster to power outages during storms since they can map the outage better.
They could have done the same thing with a smart phone app that takes a picture, emails it to the power company, the computer reads the image, tells you if it got it, and then sends you the bill to your phone or computer email.
The meters are probably not the reason for that. Power companies now use reflectometry to find the line break. It is very accurate.
Speaking only for my household, we will not sacrifice our liberty for saving a few dollars. My liberal neighbor (who moved to Texas from Nashua, NH and refuses to assimilate to our values and cultures) is all in favor of these evil devices. An Obama supporter, he also has one of those silly COEXIST bumper stickers on his car. That tells me everything worth knowing about these intrusive things.
“or shootable dogs to be at home.”
Why do they NEVER shoot CATS???/s;)
My in-laws lived in Nashua for a time, I hear you
Of that, the lion's share is lost in HVAC.
There is a way to seal the building such that all HVAC needs could be serviced by a heat pump powered by solar panels and/or wind turbines.
In that situation, the building can be removed from the grid altogether thus emasculating said politicians as well as the energy companies.
It's the American way.
People are going to jail over trying to remove smart meters from their house or trying to prevent the installation of them.
Glenn Beck has been all over this for a year now...nice to see the NY Times reporting for once.
People hear this kind of talk and instantly think granola cruncher, but this is quite American in that it cuts the legs out from under huge monied interests that have had their way with American consumers for far too long.
This guy a real piece of work. He's been here since the mid-90s, brazenly refusing to assimilate and complaining about the lack of the four seasons here in Texas. My next door neighbor, a Tea Party Patriot, and I always look forward to tweaking him, most recently on Earth Day, when we turn on all the lights, run our lawnmowers and he keeps his motorcycle roaring in the driveway. Earlier this year, we had a great time on MLK day by flying our Confederate flags.
Our work must be paying off. His daughter is a cheerleader at high school and speaks with a Southern accent. She also convinced him to attach a flagpole to his house, which sports both Old Glory and the Texas flag.
...and a little child will lead them... -- Isaiah 11:6
When he removes that stupid COEXIST bumper sticker, we know we're on our way toward a conversion!
” No matter how little you use they keep raising rates to make sure utilities pocket big profits (with the PUCs blessings, of course).”
They also raise rates so they can subsidize the solar panels on a lot of wealthy peoples homes. It’s big stuff to brag about all you are doing to save the environment at elitist cocktail parties. Don’t talk about the average ratepayer shelling out dough to make it affordable though. Without the subsidies very few would be installed.
Wonder what would happen if you slipped a Mylar bag over the meter. ...
Why the redundancy?
You've got it! But the nasty part is that in order to survive economically, conservatives like me -- opposed to government hand-outs -- are almost forced to accept the subsidies in order to keep our lights and hot water.
My electricity rates (without any major changes in usage) have gone from around $50-$60 a month 4-5 years ago to an average of $235 a month now. And the PUC keeps approving higher and higher rates. I expect to see $300 a month fairly soon.
I’ve had a smart meter for several years. No meter reader is one less thing for the dog to bark at.
I got another of those calls last week.
I simply said:
Caller was trying to mumble some appeal as I hung up.
Our water co. tried to pull some bull with us to install a smart meter.
I happened to have A HORRIBLE flu when the guy came over - so I started to have a conversation with him, in FLU language, about how I had some medical conditions and my Dr. had told me “No smart meters” due to “medical equipment” I had to have to sustain my life.
He ran like a bastard out of my house. Turns out he had CUT the line outside on a perfectly good meter in order to claim that our meter was not working and needed to be replaced. It’s the super secret trick the towns are pulling now. The decent fellow who came to repair the cut line explained it all to me.
I just kept saying, “I don’t know anything but that my Dr. said the new digital meters will disrupt my life sustaining equipment.”
Then I cough real bad. REAL bad I say.
I though I was the only one that did that.....here in Michigan....run the garden tractor, lawn blower, use the table saw to cut some wood just for the heck of it, lights on....in every room, fans going unless its cold......my kids laugh at me but they all know where I stand on everything....:O)
They respond much slower to outages for small clusters of outage as they can more easily prioritize where to send the crews. We used to get faster repair as we live near a service center.
Three months ago my bill was $145. This month it is $31.57.
My electric meter was inside a locked fence on my back deck.
Now I don’t have to unlock the gate to let them in, and I have an accurate bill.
Wow! The operative word is “meter”. The smart meters allow large staff reductions at the utility company. You complain about your bill but tie the hands of engineers trying to make the system more efficient and cheaper. The smart meters themselves cannot disconnect electric power to your home. Disconnecting power needs a properly rated breaker — there is a manual disconnect in your house switch box. The next one back is at the transformer serving you and your neighbors. The smart meter would need to have a relay to trip an expensive replacement of your manual disconnect molded case circuit breaker and another relay to re-engage the breaker. The liability associated with such a device controlling all power to your house would be uninsurable at a reasonable cost.
What about those gadgets the utility companies are pushing that allow them to remotely turn off your heating, AC and hot water heater?
‘_______opt out of Big Brother meters.’
Here in So. Calif, we also opted out, and have to pay monthly for that ‘privilege.’
For all these 44 years, the original meter is just a few feet from the head of our bed - - - z~a~p!
That’s the only way the bed fits in the room.
Sounds like they are losing a lot of revenue by doing this. Just wait, your rates will be going up to cover their "shortfall"
All they need for that is maps. Smart meters don't change that.
Then you'll like my story.
Decades ago, when I was still single, I rented an apartment. The apartment had its own electric meter, which I soon found out, did not work. I got a bill every month for $2.75, which was the minimum charge for having electricity.
I ran the air conditioner full blast night and day throughout the summer, even if I did occasionally have to wear a sweater in the house in the summer time.
Unfortunately, the apartment was heated with gas, the gas meter did work. I found a solution however by buying electric space heaters for every room and turned the gas off.
I did this for 2 full years and the electric company never noticed or didn't care that I had no usage at all, ditto for the gas.
The only reason I reluctantly moved was because I got married and needed a bigger place. If I hadn't gotten married and had children, I'd probably still be there.
You should make your own power if you are serious about that.
I have seen reports that installation of a smart meter is immediately followed in many or most cases by a large increase in electric bills.
You could have fixed that by reading your own meter and calling the company. On months that we get “estimated” instead of read we bitch and the bill gets adjusted. Once in a while we have to send a couple of dollars more but we bitch then, too, to be consistent. Most of the time it is way high.