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Are ObamaCare's 'Markets' Doomed To Fail?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 05/24/2013 | IBD Staff

Posted on 05/24/2013 4:55:56 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

Industrial Policy: What if government created an insurance "marketplace" and no one came? As the launch of the ObamaCare insurance exchanges draws near, that could happen — bringing the reform crashing to the ground.

The premise of ObamaCare's exchanges was that they would provide individuals and small businesses a choice of many competing health plans. And because the plans all have to provide the same benefits, consumers would be able to shop around for the best deal.

But evidence is piling up that the law won't live up to this promise, as insurance companies, small businesses and individuals seek to avoid the exchanges altogether.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insurance; obamacare; rateshock; smallbusiness
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1 posted on 05/24/2013 4:55:56 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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They are designed to fail. The idea is to destroy the insurance companies, collapse the existing system, create chaos and pave the way for a single-payer system run by the government. That will be the true “Obamacare.”


2 posted on 05/24/2013 4:59:35 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: IBD editorial writer

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3 posted on 05/24/2013 5:02:47 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Are ObamaCare's 'Markets' Doomed To Fail?

You forgot to properly illustrate the rhetorical question asked and answered in your editorial. I fixed the problem.
4 posted on 05/24/2013 5:04:40 AM PDT by Zakeet (If idiots could fly, Washington would be an airport)
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To: La Lydia
They are designed to fail.

BINGO!

5 posted on 05/24/2013 5:12:32 AM PDT by randita
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To: IBD editorial writer
The premise of ObamaCare's exchanges was that they would provide individuals and small businesses a choice of many competing health plans. And because the plans all have to provide the same benefits, consumers would be able to shop around for the best deal.

When I buy a car, I want the anti-lock brakes and the front- and side-airbags. I do not want the nitrogen-filled tires or the appearance package. Part of what allows me to get the best car for me at the best price is choosing which features to pay for. Only a liberal would think you could save money and generate competition when everyone has to buy the same government-designed Yugo or Trabant.

I find it amusing, in a sad way, that hospital coverage is optional but abortion coverage is mandatory under ObamaCare.

6 posted on 05/24/2013 5:14:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Clever move to call them 'markets.' Maybe Democrats intend to blame the looming healthcare disaster on the big insurance companies, greedy doctors, and the free market.

Or maybe I'm just too cynical. But it's hard to trust the Obama regime in light of current events.

7 posted on 05/24/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

We’ll probably see a two tier system, with the Obamacare compliant facilities as crap while Mayo Clinic and concierge doctors offer the same top notch level of care for those who pay cash.
We may even see insurance plans like they have in Canada. You get a particular diagnosis, like cancer, and you get a cash lump sum to pay your bills. The insurance isn’t called medical insurance, you could use the money theoretically to pay living expenses while ill or pay medical expenses at facilities that only take cash.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 5:28:28 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: La Lydia; MinuteGal

“They are designed to fail. The idea is to destroy the insurance companies, collapse the existing system, create chaos and pave the way for a single-payer system run by the government. That will be the true “Obamacare.”

Bingo. The way Obama is going to get members to populate his state exchanges in those states that will have them (or Obama sets up his own federal exchanges in those states that refuse to have state ones) is to force large corporations, in particular public entities, to drop their healthcare plans for their workers and force them into the state exchanges. Blackmail, as it were.

For instance, I have the misfortune to have worked for a public University in Obama’s very blue home state of Illinois. We were all put on notice a week ago by mail, that we will have to sign up by Jan. 1st, 2014 for the Obamacare State Exchange being created here in our all Dem controlled state this very minute. Basically, all state workers, police, teachers, firefighters, health workers, etc. will be forced out of their current employer healthcare plans, and into the State Exchange. All retirees on Medicare (that’s me) will lose their secondary insurance through their former employers, and will be forced into the state exchange as their secondary insurance at greatly increased cost.

Now what humors me, if it weren’t for the fact that they are taking me down with them, is that all of the liberal Profs and Admin at my former public University are going to end up with lousy exchange insurance while losing their current HMO’s, PPO’s, primary plans, etc. that they currently are in. And probably many of them will lose their doctors also. Plus all of the premiums and co-pays have gone up for IL state workers bigtime. So all these Libs are being screwed by the Obama regime that most of them worshipped. Nowadays, not so much. Via the grapevine, hearing complaints now from where I previously worked, lots of them, this is not going over well. Heh, heh. You live by the sword of Obama, you die by the sword when he turns around and shafts you with it.


9 posted on 05/24/2013 5:31:37 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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We’ll probably see a two tier system, with the Obamacare compliant facilities as crap while Mayo Clinic and concierge doctors offer the same top notch level of care for those who pay cash.

Yep that's where we are headed.

10 posted on 05/24/2013 6:13:20 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: tbw2

Speaking of paying cash, it can cost less too:

http://surgerycenterok.com/pricing.php


11 posted on 05/24/2013 6:18:55 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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Here is an article out of Indiana. More job losses coming due to Obamacare.
http://www.ibj.com/st-vincent-hospitals-to-cut-jobs/PARAMS/article/41543
Blamed on Obamacare:
Excerpt: St. Vincent Health will lay off an unspecified number of employees across its 22-hospital network by June 30 in a cost-saving move the hospital blamed on Obamacare, cuts to Medicare reimbursement, and lower-than-expected volumes of patient procedures.
12 posted on 05/24/2013 6:19:33 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

No, you are not cynical, you are right on-target. When they made the subtle change in nomenclature from “exchange” to “market”, they did so with a purpose.

The free market has FAILED! Time to try something else then.


13 posted on 05/24/2013 6:52:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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The notion of a government created and mandated “market” is so laughable on its face. A market is where free people come together to exchange products and services for cash at mutually negotiated prices so both parties benefit to the fullest extent. Heavy-handed government is anathema to markets.

If they wanted markets to “provide individuals and small businesses a choice of many competing health plans,” all they had to do was get the State insurance agencies out of the way with their heavy regulation. Deregulate and you would have thousands of low-cost plans available.

Yes, these “markets” are designed to fail and destroy insurance companies leading to single-payer.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 7:07:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: IBD editorial writer; l8pilot; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
No "Exchange" in South Carolina. Thank you Gov. Haley.

Now the state House and Senate are struggling over the expansion of Medicaid. The state hospital assn. and the doctor's assn. are all for it because they see big bucks coming from the Feds.

But the Feds are exactly like a drug pusher. They give you the big bucks for three years, then you're mostly on your own. Now you're hooked. Whatchagonnado?

Fortunately, Gov. Haley has promised to veto this legislation and the betting is that the veto won't be overturned.

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15 posted on 05/24/2013 8:27:31 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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It’s the Republicans fault for blocking everything, I’ve already had my dose of the talking point from someone I thought was more intelligent...


16 posted on 05/24/2013 11:08:23 AM PDT by Son House (The Heath Care Recovery Never Gets Here, Like The Economic Recovery, Easily Predictable.)
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To: La Lydia

Yes!


17 posted on 05/24/2013 11:13:46 AM PDT by uncitizen (Brown skin is not a get away with treason free card!)
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It was supposed to fail. ObamaCare is supposed to fail. Then they will blame it on capitalism and start pushing for their government-run “single payer” system.


18 posted on 05/24/2013 11:16:10 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Rummyfan; tbw2

The two-tier thing will be temporary as they will move to ban cash-for-treatment too. Only the elite will be able to access the best care.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 11:18:33 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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is there any way we can not participate in Obamacare?


20 posted on 05/24/2013 11:29:38 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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