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Rand Paul: My colleagues just voted to arm the allies of Al-Queda
Foreign Policy ^ | 05/21/13 | John Hudson

Posted on 05/22/2013 12:00:43 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) blasted members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday, which voted overwhelmingly to arm elements of the Syrian opposition in a bill co-sponsored by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN). "This is an important moment," Paul said, addressing his Senate colleagues. "You will be funding, today, the allies of al Qaeda. It's an irony you cannot overcome."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
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One of the only voices of reason amongst the corrupt oligarchs who represent us, Rand Paul.
1 posted on 05/22/2013 12:00:43 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

So Rand Paul, rightfully, has the time and speaks forceably on this issue in a timely manner.

However, where is his statement of outrage concerning the traitorous Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill (Comprehensive Immigration Reform) that was just passed out of committee in the Senate?


2 posted on 05/22/2013 12:03:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wish I could find that. Menendez was one of the supporters of that bill, you can count on that.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 12:07:06 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Wish I could find that. Menendez was one of the supporters of that bill, you can count on that.

If you couldn't tell, that was a rhetorical question as Rand Paul is a strong supporter of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" and has his own version of Amnesty he was pushing until he got a lot of heat about it.

He's been awfully quiet about it for some time now.
4 posted on 05/22/2013 12:08:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Wish he didn't support it.

Illegals are already getting preferential treatment in hiring by many employers.

5 posted on 05/22/2013 12:12:35 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Can rubio do any worse than he’s doing now? Amnesty now this. Maybe pull a McGreevey I guess.


6 posted on 05/22/2013 12:23:39 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SoConPubbie

His laudable performance here doesn’t make up for his sellout last month either. He’s a RINO through and through. This Dem inquisition means nothing. It’s a dog and pony show.


7 posted on 05/22/2013 12:25:01 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Congress and the WH *is* Al Quaida.


8 posted on 05/22/2013 12:27:50 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Eagles6

Him pulling a McGreevey would be largely preferable in my opinion to this Amnesty.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 12:29:17 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Hardraade

That is hard to stomache.


10 posted on 05/22/2013 12:29:57 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Hardraade

Not quite the whole of congress, of course. But the WH, certainly. and more congresscritters than not. And more government officials than not, the whole government is at least as riddled with muslims as Bill Clinton’s was riddled with Clinton lojalists.


11 posted on 05/22/2013 12:35:29 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Norm Lenhart
His laudable performance here doesn’t make up for his sellout last month either. He’s a RINO through and through. This Dem inquisition means nothing. It’s a dog and pony show.

I agree with you.

It would appear that Rand Paul, rather than stick to conservative principles, is taking a more Myth Romney approach of trying to please as many people as possible.

It's a shame, because the principled approach, whoever takes it, will guarantee a win in Presidential politics.

Anything else guarantees a Democrat win.
12 posted on 05/22/2013 12:40:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand is quiet because the leaders are taking heat! Yes, he supports it, but he is also observing the anger we have for Rubio and stays quiet hoping it will go away. It won’t.


13 posted on 05/22/2013 12:44:57 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: SoConPubbie

I know people want to believe like Fox Mulder but it’s time to stop believing in fantasy and accept the hard reality about people like RP and the GOP. They are not our friends. They support Dem positions. That isn’t purist ranting, it’s a documented fact.

But they won’t. It’s easier to buy the fiction than fave the fact. So much for holding feet to the fire huh?


14 posted on 05/22/2013 12:48:57 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

...”I know people want to believe like Fox Mulder but it’s time to stop believing in fantasy and accept the hard reality about people like RP and the GOP. They are not our friends. They support Dem positions. That isn’t purist ranting, it’s a documented fact.

But they won’t. It’s easier to buy the fiction than fave the fact. So much for holding feet to the fire huh?”...

I cannot believe the criticism of Rand Paul here this a.m. Has FR been taken over like everything else? If you have documented fact, then state that. Rand Paul is a patriot and the kind of leader who will stand against the tide of communism. You may not agree with everything he believes but he is a smart and honest man and someone who is not corrupt and bought out. He will never betray his country. I guess I am close to being in the “giving up” column. You didn’t do this but many do..FR used to be a place where people would give at least a short explanation of their ideas about articles..Now, they text. This new world of sloth will come to nothing eventually. There are not enough old, wise people who understand and have the means to explain how unleashed human nature always ends in tyranny. I am sure no one will read my post here because I wrote more than 10 words.


15 posted on 05/22/2013 2:12:42 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite

Honest men and patriots do not invite illegal aliens into America or support those who do.

Unless you have a problem with that statement....


16 posted on 05/22/2013 2:27:34 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Don’t forget him and loony pop being for open borders (that will let more AQ in) ..... how can the libertopians like that crap? They think it will HELP the USA?!

They are as nuts as the old man :/


17 posted on 05/22/2013 2:45:33 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Bikkuri

Ode to a RINO...

Tell me does the Stupid Burn?
I really want to know.
So many excuses that I hear,
Just bouncing to and fro

I hear it’s quite conservative
And rainbows lead the way
In front of tanks and planes and bombs,
To make our soldiers Gay

Likewise today around the right,
Lets make a choice severe,
Abort unwanted children,
Adopt them to a queer!

And what about the guns you own?
What did supporters say?
It truly must be Reaganesque,
To take them all away!

For shame the bitter clingers,
With Bibles by the bed.
Believe instead in Steve and Bob,
Whose right we’ll make to wed.

Such was the choice the GOP,
Bequeathed to us to vote.
Our patriotic duty,
Just hold your nose and choke.

Alas I am not stupid.
I do not feel the burn.
But come election season,
I fear they will not learn.

Another leftist RINO,
Or Democrat they’ll pass
Upon the the right wing public,

Well they can kiss my ass.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 2:47:11 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I wish he would feel this way aiding the Mexican Drug Cartels,Coyotes, MS 13, etc...when he gets liberal on Amnesty


19 posted on 05/22/2013 2:52:23 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Absolutely correct...GOP has pretty much become Democrats with Jobs....they are no opposition....and too many folks think the GOP will bring them ponies and unicorns


20 posted on 05/22/2013 2:55:52 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I am tired of people that refuse to admit the facts in front of their face. Sick of it. And I am not going to stand by and worship people that take turns playing ring around the RINO.

Today Paul is Uberconservative Man and tomorrow he praises the Gang of Ocho. Next Week Ryan will pretend he didn’t disavow his homo positions on adoption to wail for the sanctity of Marriage.

Wake the hell up people.


21 posted on 05/22/2013 3:01:43 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Still a Lt. Col. West fan?


22 posted on 05/22/2013 3:03:40 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

After his Pigford performance you mean? He has many good qualities. But that vote and his excuses were pure BS. Expensive race VS.


23 posted on 05/22/2013 3:05:05 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m with you on that, SoConPubbie—any great stand that Rand or Ted Cruz or even Palin from Alaska might take will be undone irreparably into the future if the let comprehensive amnesty pass, and yet that’s in essence what they are allowing.


24 posted on 05/22/2013 3:05:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jazzlite
The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Conservatives appear to have not figured out that politics is a game of addition, not division. As long as the purity test eliminates all but a few thousand righteous from consideration we are doomed to lose elections.

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25 posted on 05/22/2013 3:20:55 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Find me the conservatism in Romney’s record.

Find me the conservatism in gay adpoption.

Find me the conservatism in ‘comprehensive immigration reform”

Find me the conservative in selling out to gay marriage.

Find me the conservatism in a multimillion dollar campaign to attack and discredit conservative candidates in a primary.

Find me the conservative in turning the Alynski hit machine on Palin.

Find me the conservative in trading the lives of babied for votes.

Find me the conservative in any of these very real actions by the GOP and you have a leg to stand on.

The opposite of purity os corruption. We ‘purists’ will settle for the traditional 80% figure. Nothing above approaches that.


26 posted on 05/22/2013 3:29:26 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yes, though, Pigford didn’t bother me much. His vote on the NDAA, was a definite illusion breaker. My hopes are not carried easily, as basic as they may seem.


27 posted on 05/22/2013 3:47:33 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

I think he is a good man. But he definitely has some issues as a pol to get sorted.


28 posted on 05/22/2013 3:50:43 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Very witty and clever poem.
Sadly very true. My faith is in the Almighty and corrupt government by men can rot in hades.


29 posted on 05/22/2013 3:53:09 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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30 posted on 05/22/2013 3:55:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks SCP.


31 posted on 05/22/2013 3:56:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: tflabo

Thanks. I’m sure I’ll wake up to a lot of hate mail and fits over it. But it’s the truth. And I’ve long since stopped caring what the psuedocons it targets think of anything I have to say.


32 posted on 05/22/2013 4:05:31 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

The amnesty bill will arm even more of them. We’ll get more Boston Marathon bombers when we let all the illegals stay and they start collecting welfare in greater numbers.

I’d like to see some combination of Paul/Palin/Bachmann running in 2016.


33 posted on 05/22/2013 4:17:25 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"He's been awfully quiet about it for some time now.

That is because he does not support the gang of 8 plan. He is strong on "enforcement first" and "no new pathway to citizenship" he also opposes any social benefits (welfare, food stamps, etc) to illegals. Pauls' position on illegal immigration is very close to Cruz and far far from Rubios'.

34 posted on 05/22/2013 4:39:55 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: jazzlite

I read it! Yes, we have become sound bite nation and I can be just as guilty as the next person. It’s easy to read a one-liner post. The long ones, like your or like this one, can look intimidating.

I’m not an expert on Rand Paul, but just posted positively about him on this thread before reading down the comment list. I did not realize he was in favor of amnesty, which I am against.

So far, I still think he speaks honestly and is not afraid to stand up to the establishment of either party and not afraid to speak his mind. Those are 3 major qualities I am looking for in a Presidential candidate.

If he favors amnesty, I will have to reconsider my opinion of him. I do not expect to agree with any candidate on every issue, but amnesty is pretty serious.

It’s complex and I think there is room for some sort of sensible plan, but I haven’t heard one yet. I am against any plan that rewards illegals, fails to close the border, makes illegals eligible for welfare and other benefits, etc. I might, repeat *might*, consider something that makes them pay taxes and makes them ineligible for any financial benefit for at least 3 generations and/or 50 years.

Is there a conservative platform somewhere? A tea party platform? We need a list of issues to rate candidates on. I don’t expect perfection or agreement, but I do want someone who is strong on the big issues. I want the conservative who will “fundamentally change” America by putting us on a path back to the republic we have lost.

Here is my starter list of issues:
1. Repeal 0bamacare.
2. Repeal the income tax.
3. Abolish the IRS.
4. Stop bailing out the “too big to fail” companies.
5. Abolish government unions.
6. Require “skin in the game” in order to vote. The framers required land ownership. That worked in an agricultural society. We need the 21st century equivalent.
7. No amnesty.
8. Start profiling and stop groping citizens at airports.
9. Get rid of DHS?
10. Prosecute all the corrupt officials (both parties) and take away their pensions.
11. Have states choose senators, not popular vote.

Sorry for the rant that was tangential to the originial topic.


35 posted on 05/22/2013 4:41:32 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: jazzlite
"Has FR been taken over like everything else"

Certainly appears that way.

36 posted on 05/22/2013 4:43:44 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Eagles6

Maybe George Soros has “plans” for him...


37 posted on 05/22/2013 4:49:42 AM PDT by Shady (Abolish The IRS and Obamacare...it isn't going to cure anything...)
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To: generally
"I did not realize he was in favor of amnesty, which I am against.

He is not in favor of amnesty, go to his web site then decide if he is wrong on illegal immigration. The hate of the father is now aimed at the son. It is totally irrational since Paul is one of our finest conservative Senators.

38 posted on 05/22/2013 4:50:09 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Friggin’ insanity.

Here we go into another quagmire. The “Free Syrian Army” is comprised of jihadis on par with al-Qaeda. This will not end well.

God help the Christians community in Syria.


39 posted on 05/22/2013 5:05:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
"You will be funding, today, the allies of al Qaeda. It's an irony you cannot overcome."

Amen to that. After what those ferals have said about Christians and their open intent to turn Syria into a hardcore islamist state, this is going to turn very, very ugly.

40 posted on 05/22/2013 5:09:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul spoke as a guest on the Mark Levin show. He said he didn’t support the amnesty bill. He said he would NOT vote for it.

Marco Rubio the liberal progressive from Florida is the senator who should be blamed for this.


41 posted on 05/22/2013 5:19:55 AM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Speak it Rand!


42 posted on 05/22/2013 5:24:10 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Who sponsored this legislation? and what connection -if any to the Benghazi Cover-up? And I submit if they are not active in seeking the honest and complete answers as to why the epic fail on the part of the O Administration leading up to and following the attacks—they they are suspect.


43 posted on 05/22/2013 5:25:11 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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44 posted on 05/22/2013 5:36:45 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I read the story, and it doesn’t appear to be about immigration at all. It’s amazing to watch a thread get highjacked.


45 posted on 05/22/2013 5:37:57 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Eagles6

“Can rubio do any worse than he’s doing now?”

Yes, with Soros’ complete support!


46 posted on 05/22/2013 5:41:04 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: cdcdawg
You are right about what it isn't about.

Hope you don't blame me for the diversion.

I thought the interesting part of the article was the lack of enough Republicans against arming the Syrian "rebels".

47 posted on 05/22/2013 6:30:21 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: StonyBurk

Bob Menendez Democrat and Bob Corker Republican.


48 posted on 05/22/2013 6:33:36 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Why is the foreign relations community of “think tanks” and lobby groups that own most senators (they tend to own politicians by funneling campaign monies to politicians and provide them with staff and then hire them when they are out of office) so hell bent on overthrowing Syria’s Assad that they will arm al-Qaeda?

And the notion the west will somehow vett the Syrian rebels correctly and provide only Jeffersonian Democratic Syrians with arms is a fig leaf designed to let these politicians to escape the truth on Sunday talk shows that the Sunni rebels in Syria are fighting for Sunni domination rights not democratic human rights.


49 posted on 05/22/2013 6:45:04 AM PDT by IXNK (Isus Xristos Nikas!)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

If giving aid and comfort to our sworn enemies is not treason, then what is the new definition of treason, to replace what the Constitution says?


50 posted on 05/22/2013 7:32:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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