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FOX CABLE NEWS IS REPORTING 24 3RD GRADERS HAVE PERISHED IN OKLAHOMA.
FOX NEWS ^ | 5/20/2013 | Fox News

Posted on 05/20/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by stockpirate

NO LINK ON THEIR WEBSITE YET,


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 3rdgraders; deathtoll; moore; notbreakingnews; oklahoma; storm; vanity
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To: Venturer
Ask a stupid question I guess, but why don’t they put shelters in these schools?

They do have them, and the ones that don't, have strengthed portions of the structures for shelter. But this was a huge, powerful tornado (most likely EF5, from what I have seen on TV) and there is really nothing you can do to protect yourself from that powerful of a tornado, expect to get far underground. These are the ones that raze any structure to the ground, winds over 260 MPH. The most powerful winds ever recorded in a tornado were 318 MPH, in the tornado that came through Moore in 1999, on nearly the same path.

261 posted on 05/20/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: digger48

They’ll blame it on the sequester. Anything to distract from all the other stuff going.


262 posted on 05/20/2013 6:32:46 PM PDT by virgil
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To: stayathomemom

I have seen some old fashioned storm cellars with a L door way. A sharp turn from the front. Was supposed to help.

Don’t know though.


263 posted on 05/20/2013 6:33:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: stockpirate

Sundown


264 posted on 05/20/2013 6:33:43 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: elkfersupper
Witness the results of the "lockdown" herd mentality. What a horrible story. I wager that the outcome would have been different had we been teaching kids to run like hell rather than shelter in place.

Don't befool yourself. You cannot outrun a tornado. What an idiotic statement.

265 posted on 05/20/2013 6:34:21 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: muawiyah

The TriState Tornado is nearly inconceivable. The strange thing was the very high number of country folks caught in the open by it. Normally, they are the type that are very weather-savvy, but the storm was so wide they did not recognize it as a tornado, they just thought a very dark cloud was approaching until it was too late. There are several sites that document it, they are fascinating, but scary as hell.


266 posted on 05/20/2013 6:34:51 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: bigheadfred

Oh no, Moore again? They were hit by an EF5 in 1999 that was the strongest tornado, by wind speed, ever actually measured ANYWHERE in the world. Almost 320 mph wind speed. According to Wikipedia, this is the fifth tornado in 15 years to hit Moore—1998, the 1999 EF5, 2003, 2010, and today.

}:-)4


267 posted on 05/20/2013 6:35:41 PM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: Venturer
Ask a stupid question I guess, but why don’t they put shelters in these schools?

I'm with you... Schools in Tornado Alley should have shelters for their students.

268 posted on 05/20/2013 6:37:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: redgolum

I shudder to think what the toll would have been if it happened at night when more residents would have been home.


269 posted on 05/20/2013 6:37:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: onyx

http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/

That’s an interesting link.


270 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: South40
Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election. Will that affect his decisions? We'll see,

Obambi can keep "his" money. We in Oklahoma don't need it, don't want it. We take care of our own.

271 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:41 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks so much, sweetest you.


272 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:43 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: LaRueLaDue

I spotted storms for a summer.

Short answer is you can, in certain situations. We were taught (in Nebraska) to go 90 degrees away from the funnel if you didn’t have a place to shelter. Or drive like a bat out of Hades if you had to.

Something like this though you don’t have much to run to. There are not many basements in that part of the world.


273 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:54 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: stockpirate

This is just heart breaking. All the money we spend on schools, and yet most do not have adequate protection from tornado type weather or the extra specs for earthquakes.

Our community has been lucky. In spite of the leveling of several shopping centers and the elementary school over the years, we have not had huge fatalities. My daughter was in third grade when the tornado hit the elementary school. Fortunately school was not in session.

I pray for all these people who are experiencing such awful losses. It’s a real tragedy.


274 posted on 05/20/2013 6:39:45 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Moose4

I heard it was 4 but maybe this makes 5.


275 posted on 05/20/2013 6:40:31 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: WKB

Pink to that tornadohistory link for you too.


276 posted on 05/20/2013 6:40:35 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: muawiyah
"Done regularly with radar."

Nope.

If it was, there would be no questions about where on the EF scale a storm scored.....but the scoring is always done post-storm by experts on the ground after damage surveys.

277 posted on 05/20/2013 6:40:59 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Doppler radar has the ability to measure approximate wind speeds. Tornadoes have very distinctive echoes on Doppler (if they can electronically filter out the radar image of the debris ball if it’s on the ground) and the wind speed mode of the radar can generally give a pretty close estimate of actual speeds, at least higher off the ground.

}:-)4


278 posted on 05/20/2013 6:41:15 PM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: diogenes ghost

Measured just above the ground by nearby mobile radar. The facts are well-known and not in dispute.


279 posted on 05/20/2013 6:41:19 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: dfwgator

The year before I moved away from Nebraska, my bride (girlfriend at the time) and I saw a storm level a small town outside of Lincoln Nebraska. Happened late at night.

But the sirens went off, and people sheltered in the basement. Only woman that died was an old woman who had her hearing aides out.

It was an EF4. Nothing left but the foundations. My friend’s parents lived there, and they came up from the shelter and said it was like the town was never there.


280 posted on 05/20/2013 6:41:45 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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