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Is Mankind Getting Dumber? (article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | May 2013 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 05/01/2013 12:06:27 PM PDT by fishtank

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To: Wurlitzer
Arbitrary?

You can pick ANY start point. Humans today are taller, smarter, healthier and live longer.

We dig up human remains from all over the world and from many different times in human history. The average height made them shrimps compared to modern humans.

Height and intelligence are strongly correlated.

Our grandfather's generation, in their prime some 50-75 years ago (for most) were not as tall or as smart by any measure.

So YOU pick the time points.

And humans are not branching into sub-species. People have always mated associatively for height and intelligence and any number of other traits. Human populations are becoming less isolated as social taboos and cheap and easy worldwide travel have led to massive mixing of people.

41 posted on 05/01/2013 12:51:04 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Wurlitzer
That’s what the liberals keep telling us to shut us up but if a race constantly embraces an inferior culture there MUST be something defective in the race.

A lot of white folks are embracing it as well.

42 posted on 05/01/2013 12:54:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lazamataz
All smart people have to do is to quit paying stupid people to breed and the problem will solve itself.

Stupid people would starve and/or fail to reproduce.

God created survival-of-the-fittest and we must also obey it - one way or another.

43 posted on 05/01/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: fishtank

No - just the leadership.


44 posted on 05/01/2013 1:08:49 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: allmendream

You mean the people that brought you the renaissance?


45 posted on 05/01/2013 1:11:04 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: fishtank
Is Mankind Getting Dumber?

Prolly, I dunno.
46 posted on 05/01/2013 1:13:53 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: fishtank

Watching NBC news your would think so.


47 posted on 05/01/2013 1:22:23 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Sherman Logan

Thanks, Sherm. I was just about to point that out.

http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/flynneffect.shtml


48 posted on 05/01/2013 1:23:08 PM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

The average Florintinian circa 1500 or so wouldn’t be a Leonardo or Benvenuto or a Machiavelli. Just as the average human today isn’t a Steve Jobs.


49 posted on 05/01/2013 1:23:58 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

“Our grandfather’s generation, in their prime some 50-75 years ago (for most) were not as tall or as smart by any measure.”

The average Euro-American is shorter today than 150 yrs ago.

http://research.duke.edu/blog/2010/10/getting-shorter-and-fatter


50 posted on 05/01/2013 1:25:19 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: newheart

There is no question that people across the world are getting higher IQ scores over time, to the extent they have to regularly re-norm the tests.

Why this is happening and what it means is a damn good question.


51 posted on 05/01/2013 1:26:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Beagle8U

Well, no. The average American is 2 inches taller than then. But the average Euro is 8 inches taller than then.

We haven’t increased our height as much, probably because we were considerably taller than Euros back then.

In WWI multiple people commented on how the rankers in the British Army looked like a different people from the much taller and healthier officers. Malnutrition, probalbly.


52 posted on 05/01/2013 1:32:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

You didn’t even click on the link did you?


53 posted on 05/01/2013 1:35:14 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Sherman Logan

Winston Churchill made it a point of argument because the average (mostly lower class) Englishman was of such inferior physicality than the average American.


54 posted on 05/01/2013 1:38:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: dfwgator
I was just going to say, “In Before the Idiocracy References.”

Who knew 'Idiocracy' was a documentary?

55 posted on 05/01/2013 1:40:24 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Beagle8U

Well, actually I did, since it’s where I got the stats I replied with.

During the Colonial times, Americans were the tallest in the world. In the case of the Industrial Revolution and the Antebellum Era, the heights of people in the industrialized countries were shrinking even when the average incomes were increasing.

“Total average height decreased during these periods; however this was not the case if you consider only the richer people. This was primarily because they were able to pay for their nutrition even when the prices of food were going up.”

“His research showed that the average height of the Dutch increased by almost 8 inches since the middle of the 19th century, compared to an increase of just 2 inches in the height of Americans.”

IOW, both Americans and Dutch are taller than 150 years ago, but Americans aren’t as MUCH taller, which is what I said.


56 posted on 05/01/2013 1:45:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: fishtank

Yes, because the stupid and weak ones don’t get eaten by animals anymore.


57 posted on 05/01/2013 1:49:56 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: fishtank

Yes, if our governments have anything to say about it.


58 posted on 05/01/2013 1:53:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Sherman Logan

““Total average height decreased during these periods; however this was not the case if you consider only the richer people. This was primarily because they were able to pay for their nutrition even when the prices of food were going up.”

I think you are taking that out of context.

That wouldn’t square with Americans being their tallest in the 1700’s, and they sure weren’t eating better or had better healthcare back then.

Every single study says Americans are getting shorter, not that Europe is getting taller. Europe may be getting taller, but that doesn’t have any effect on us shrinking.


59 posted on 05/01/2013 1:57:40 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: fishtank

Ping to self for future entertainment.


60 posted on 05/01/2013 2:03:43 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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