Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Losing South Carolina (GOP throws Mark Sanford under bus)
http://www.redstate.com ^ | April 30, 2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/30/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

It is an amazing testament to how bad the other candidates were that Mark Sanford ran away with the race in South Carolina’s first congressional district.

A deeply flawed man, he was the one guy the primary voters knew wouldn’t go wobbly in Washington. But they, and I, presumed he was over the issues with his ex-wife. Unfortunately, a couple of weeks ago we learned things were not settled.

The NRCC and GOP abandoned Mark Sanford as a result. In a race the GOP could still — even now — win, the GOP decided it would rather lose than win.

Unfortunately for the GOP, losing South Carolina’s Republican first congressional district will give labor unions a massive win.

The unions, which passionately hate Boeing producing the 787 in Charleston, have poured money in to help Elizabeth Colbert Busch. Right now, thanks to the NRCC pulling out of the race, the Democrats are outspending Mark Sanford three to one.

Yesterday, the Sanford campaign discovered Colbert-Bush has gotten a massive pile of money from another ultra-liberal group. But Republicans are doing nothing.

At this time, even with all Sanford’s flaws, it seems ridiculous that the GOP would give labor unions a massive win. The media will herald it as a rejection, even in South Carolina, of Republicans. The unions will herald it as a major win for big labor.

In the process. the first district would get a stooge for Nancy Pelosi and a puppet for labor unions against Boeing.

Mark Sanford can still win. But he’s going to need a lot of help. The chickens at the NRCC ran as quickly as they could. They need to man up and fight like hell.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: elizabethbusch; gop; gopprimary; lindseygraham; marksanford; nancymace; randsconcerntrolls; rnc; sc2013; sourcetitlenoturl; southcarolina; stephencolbert
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-103 next last
The stupid party is at it again. Instead of supporting a republican for the House, they would rather a baby killing, queer "marriage", Obama rubber stamp win. Never in my life have I saw a political party as damn stupid as today's GOP.
1 posted on 04/30/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Sanford is a part of this stupidity.

What he did was the height of idiocy. He deserves to lose.

If conservatives won’t stand up for principle, I don’t care what party affiliation they wear, they don’t deserve to win.


2 posted on 04/30/2013 10:25:19 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

I don’t love Sanford but this is seriously stupid.

If the GOP could support pro abort, pro gay marriage Scott Brown, they can certainly support Sanford.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 10:27:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Cojnservatives and even many Republicans still think the Republican Party is on their side. It is not. It is fighting hard to survive in what it sees as a permanent Democratic Socialist State. It strives to hang on to the role of Officially Tolerated Opposition so that the Regime can maintain a fig leaf of democracy. But when that regime does come to pass the rulers will no longer have any need for an Opposition and the Roves and Grahams and Luntzs and McCains go to the cellars right behind the known conservatives.


4 posted on 04/30/2013 10:27:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Sanford is Todd Akins without the speech impediment.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 10:28:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

If Colbert-Bush wins, she will get tossed out in 2014. If the Appalachian Trail Hiker wins, SC may be stuck with him for years to come.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 10:28:49 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

What about the voters....didn’t they support him the primary??? What were they thinking???? Let’s nominate the most damaged candidate possible???? We’re there ANY alternatives????


7 posted on 04/30/2013 10:28:59 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: arthurus

Only way in hell a democrat winning in SC is for republicans to stay home and don’t vote. End of story. Sanford did nothing any other father would not have done. He wanted to watch the Super Bowl with his son. It was nothing. Now the GOP throws him under the Bus.


8 posted on 04/30/2013 10:29:40 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

It really does convince someone that the RNC leadership of the GOP are hellbent upon losing.

The republican national commity is a joke, they fire successful chairmen and re-higher unmitigated failures. Theses people quite obviously are doing everything they can to lose. How do we get rid of these tratiors?


9 posted on 04/30/2013 10:29:40 AM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
they would rather a baby killing, queer "marriage", Obama rubber stamp win.

Support the sanctity of marriage! Vote Sanford!...uhhh....

10 posted on 04/30/2013 10:30:41 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

“Only way in hell a democrat winning in SC is for republicans to stay home and don’t vote. End of story. Sanford did nothing any other father would not have done. He wanted to watch the Super Bowl with his son. It was nothing. Now the GOP throws him under the Bus.”

Your probably right about that. It was indeed wrong to deny him that right.


11 posted on 04/30/2013 10:31:01 AM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Monorprise

Mark Sanford is a hell of a conservative. He was a great governor of SC.


12 posted on 04/30/2013 10:31:03 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Post of the day.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 10:31:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

“Sanford is a part of this stupidity.

What he did was the height of idiocy. He deserves to lose.”

Not at this costs. Sanford may be a bastard who should be removed in the regular election season but the democrat is far worse.


14 posted on 04/30/2013 10:32:25 AM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

The establishment is not to blame for lying, cheating Mark Sanford. He was certainly NOT the establishment candidate.

Erick Erickson endorsed this idiot, and supposed “values voters” in SC1 decided to give him a “second chance” for redemption. It was obvious Sanford is a selfish, unstable tool and now we are likely to lose the seat. Erickson shares the blame for this.

Yes, Republicans/conservatives should vote for Sanford over the Stephen Colbert’s liberal sister, but we didn’t get into this mess because of our “stupid party” - it was entirely because of our stupid voters (and morons like Erickson).

The unfortunate likely outcome is Sanford loses, is politically done (hopefully forever) and we elect a real conservative for the seat in 2014. In the meantime, yes, the unions do get a victory and we have to put up with Elizabeth Colbert Busch for awhile. It’s a terrible shame, but this one is on the supposedly conservative voters in that R+11 district.


15 posted on 04/30/2013 10:32:31 AM PDT by Longbow1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Monorprise
How do we get rid of these traitors?

Get out to your state convention and put conservatives on the RNC. It usually can be done with less than 1000 votes and the RNC is where policy is made.
16 posted on 04/30/2013 10:33:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sanford is Todd Akins without the speech impediment.

And gets as much respect from the GOPe, now and when he was Gov.(The GOPe would rather loose a Senate seat than support Akins, who would have won except for their antagonistic and vocal lack of support for him.)

Some FReepers refuse to discern between conservative voters in S.C. and the SCGOP.
17 posted on 04/30/2013 10:34:24 AM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Monorprise

Anyone who would sell his convictions for a little South American poontang would sell them in office. Sorry, you can’t separate these issues. We’d only find that Sanford is a left-lurching RINO like the rest of them.


18 posted on 04/30/2013 10:34:42 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Lurking Libertarian

“If Colbert-Bush wins, she will get tossed out in 2014. If the Appalachian Trail Hiker wins, SC may be stuck with him for years to come.”

If the South Carolina GOP can elect Sanford to run as the GOP canadit in 2013 what makes you think he won’t pull off a similar scam in 2014.

I don’t know whats going on with theses people. It looks like a name reconciliation contest. Which suggest that we have done a very poor job of promoting new republicans in mass media.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 10:35:19 AM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

No matter how repulsive, I would vote for ANY Republican over ANY Democrat. Just that 2 vote swing in the House (and especially in the Senate) could make a difference. That’s what it has become...a numbers game. So, I never sit out an election and I never vote for a Democrat.


20 posted on 04/30/2013 10:35:19 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resettozero

I supported and voted for Akins, but he should have stepped aside once he stepped in the trap McCaskill had laid for him and the handwriting was on the wall.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 10:36:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
He was an adulterer that lied to his wife, his children, his staff, and the people of South Carolina. He might otherwise be conservative, but he isn't a "hell of a conservative" nor was he a "great" governor.

22 posted on 04/30/2013 10:37:34 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
We’d only find that Sanford is a left-lurching RINO like the rest of them.

As superior as some Texans are to others on FR, this time I call your bluff. You have based your opinion on a lack of knowldege.
23 posted on 04/30/2013 10:37:40 AM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Durus
He might otherwise be conservative, but he isn't a "hell of a conservative" nor was he a "great" governor.

How's the rarefied air today up there in New Hampshire?
24 posted on 04/30/2013 10:39:26 AM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
What about the voters....didn’t they support him the primary??? What were they thinking???? Let’s nominate the most damaged candidate possible???? We’re there ANY alternatives????

Yes, they did and there were plenty of alternatives. Sanford managed to fool supposedly conservative voters in a bright red district not once, but twice. He won the original primary and then crushed his opponent in the run off.

We have the good, honest, decent, traditional people in our party, but we have this curse of nominating terrible candidates all too often (Sanford, Akin, Angle, O'Donnell, McMahon, etc, etc). You just don't see Democrat voters throwing away winnable seats the way we do. I guess it's because they spend ALL their time thinking about politics and conservatives tend to get on with their lives and think less about the political ramifications of their primary vote.

25 posted on 04/30/2013 10:39:38 AM PDT by Longbow1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
We don't need to lose that seat to the powerful unions.

They are going to have to help him just for that reason alone.

This is war; a battle of how to manage this nation.

26 posted on 04/30/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

so let me get this right,
we have a guy running for our side who made a mistake but the stupid party does nothing to help much and we have him now looking to lose in a conservative area, in a conservative state

the stupid party strikes again.

This is Colberts sister for crying out loud, surely even the elitist on our side would rather we win this seat and not let a liberal get it in a conservative state and area, they can’t be that stupid can they?


27 posted on 04/30/2013 10:42:30 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Really, abandoning his job and wife and family to meet up with his South American sweet heart is something any other father would do?

I have GOT to tell my wife and my boss this amazing news!


28 posted on 04/30/2013 10:42:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
I supported and voted for Akins, but he should have stepped aside once he stepped in the trap McCaskill had laid for him and the handwriting was on the wall.

Yes, but that's not my point: The GOPe not only did not support Akins, they said many things in public that only helped re-elect McCaskill.
29 posted on 04/30/2013 10:42:45 AM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

I don’t believe he could possibly be worse than the genuine article.


30 posted on 04/30/2013 10:43:14 AM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
Sanford did nothing any other father would not have done. He wanted to watch the Super Bowl with his son. It was nothing. Now the GOP throws him under the Bus.

Sanford did a lot more than that, and it started long before the Super Bowl. Sanford betrayed his wife, his family and his state by his actions. And now he shows that he has learned nothing by repeatedly violating a restraining order and trespassing on his ex-wife's property.

If he wanted to watch the Super Bowl with his son, why not take the son to his home instead? Or maybe take him to a restaurant or pizza place that had the game on the TV? He had many options other than going into his ex-wife's home - this was just another example of him believing that the rules do not apply to him. The GOP is wise to abandon him. As a previous poster said, the GOP can regain the seat in a little over a year.

31 posted on 04/30/2013 10:43:25 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

he might have been stupid but to lose a senate seat in SC in a conservative area just shows how stupid some on our side and party are if they think losing is good to a liberal in this area.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 10:44:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
http://www.politico.com/2013-election/results/house/primary/south-carolina/ ~ there's a flip/flop here that takes you from the primary to the runoff.

About 70,000 people, roughly, participated in the primary. 46,000 participated in the runoff.

54,000 Republicans voted in the primary, so there was a drop off of barely 8,000 voters ~ what this means, BTW, is if Sanford gets as many votes as he did in the runoff, he'll beat the Democrat anyway.

If I were the RNC House campaign committee I probably wouldn't send him any money either because he doesn't need it.

On the other hand, there's a theory that if you are a labor union and you put enough money in a campaign you will win ~ even if everybody voting is a Republican.

33 posted on 04/30/2013 10:45:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Did the NRCC force Stanford to have two of his sons on the same stage as his mistress who they never met before? Did the NRCC force Stanford to violate his divorce agreement by going to his ex-wife’s house uninvited? If Stanford wanted political redemption he needed to stay on the straight and narrow and he could not even do that.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 10:45:36 AM PDT by C19fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Thank you for speaking the truth.


35 posted on 04/30/2013 10:46:03 AM PDT by madprof98
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Durus

hang on you are joking right.

so because he lied and cheated on his wife which is his , affair and life we should get a flaming liberal in power to help bama push his liberal socialist agenda.

tell me please you are joking


36 posted on 04/30/2013 10:46:26 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Stanford threw the race away by stalking his exwife. It’s on him. Don’t blame the GOP for cutting their losses. Only a fool invest more $ in Sanford at this point. Guy is still self-destructing.


37 posted on 04/30/2013 10:46:42 AM PDT by tioga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
"But they, and I, presumed he was over the issues with his ex-wife."

That statement illustrates Erickson's naivete.This isn't your garden variety divorce. He left his office to go to another continent to see his mistress on Father's Day weekend without telling another co-worker or family member where he was going. That screams to me that Sanford is nuts. As in, not wrapped too tight. The impromptu press conference on his return, where no contrition for his actions were exhibited but a mush filled ode to his mistress was puked up for the press, just cemented that view.

Erickson was surprised that he entered his ex wife's home against court orders? I'm not surprised because it fits right into Sanford's infantile mindset and history of self entitlement and stupidity. Any of the others running against him in the primary didn't carry his baggage and would have done fine in the general election. I blame the voters of SC who share the same naive mindset as Erickson.

38 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:06 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manc

Sanford made news recently by stalking his exwife. Guy is a total jerk off. The state is screwed.


39 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:10 AM PDT by tioga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

It would seem to me that labor union support in SC would be the kiss of death....almost as bad as having Obama’s endorsement in that state.


40 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:55 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Resettozero
So you really think Sanford has a snowball's chance in hell?

According to the Alinskyites, "ridicule is man's most potent weapon," and there's a boatload of raw material for ridicule there.

41 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
“Mark Sanford ran away with the race in South Carolina’s first congressional district”

Total BS. Sanford won in a runoff against Curtis Bostic, no way he ran away with the race. It was a close race despite the bias in media coverage for Sanford. The bleating media sheep kept telling us Sanford was a fiscal conservative, which apparently, is all they thought mattered. In the debate last night he even challenged whats-her-name on whether she had a problem with what Bill Clinton did and should Bill be punished for the rest of his life. His best justification is comparing himself to Bill Clinton. Sleaze personified.

I finally understand the conservatives who sat out the presidential election. My vote will be a write-in for Curtis Bostic.

42 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:13 AM PDT by strings6459 (If it comes down to it, Take One With You.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manc

Thank you Florida! Now you see why South Carolina conservatives are the true RINOs here! It is very much us, the people, against the SCGOP and the GOPe.

Too many FReepers in other States have drunk the media’s kool-aid regarding what is and has been going on politically in S.C.


43 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:20 AM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: manc
so let me get this right,
we have a guy running for our side who made a mistake . . .

With the magic word "mistake," you got this wrong. ALL WRONG.

44 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:22 AM PDT by madprof98
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: tioga

so we should get a socialist in that seat instead, is that what you’re saying.
In your view just to be clear .
We get a socialist in power in a conservative area to help bozo push more of his socialist agenda because we saw the candidate do what he did?


45 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:28 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Sanford did nothing any other father would not have done. He wanted to watch the Super Bowl with his son.

<><><><

Absolutely. It would have been impossible for Sanford to pick up his son and take him to his place to watch the game. He is The Mark Sanford, he is above having to follow the orders from the courts. Who the hell do they think they are?


46 posted on 04/30/2013 10:49:59 AM PDT by dmz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: manc

You are not listening......Sanford screwed himself out of that seat, he tanked in the polls after his stunt. Man is still self-destructing and unstable. HE is responsible for the flaming liberal...no one but him and the voters who got sucked in.


47 posted on 04/30/2013 10:51:11 AM PDT by tioga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

[Mark Sanford is a hell of a conservative. He was a great governor of SC.]

He was also a great advocate for veterans.

Unfortunately, most of the posters only ‘know’ him by the democrat controlled media.


48 posted on 04/30/2013 10:51:29 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: tioga

so in your view we should have a socialist in that seat to help Obama push his socialist agenda?

And all because he cheated a few years back and then were told he stalked his exwife .

OK GOT IT,\{shakes head and puts in hands]


49 posted on 04/30/2013 10:51:33 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Sounds like he’s deteriorating mentally ~ this isn’t going to end you know.


50 posted on 04/30/2013 10:51:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-103 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson