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Fact Check: Marco Rubio Distorts His Bill During Rush Limbaugh Interview
Numbers USA ^ | Apr. 19, 2013 | Chris Chmielenski,

Posted on 04/19/2013 6:08:36 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

If the Senate is going to pass the Gang of Eight's amnesty bill in the 113th Congress, they're going to need Marco Rubio to sell it to his Republican colleagues. After the bill's introduction yesterday morning, Rubio began his sales pitch last night by appearing on Mark Levin's radio program. But the big sell came today when he tried to convince Rush Limbaugh. Unfortunately for Rubio, Limbaugh didn't bite even with his distorted details.

Yesterday, Rubio's staff began an aggressive campaign to dispel any myths that were circulating in the mainstream media. Given his staff's attention to the details of the bill, we thought we should return the favor by providing the same kind of scrutiny to his defense of the bill to Rush Limbaugh. Here's what we found...

For starters, Rubio did an about-face from an earlier appearance on Limbaugh's program. On January 29, 2013, he said:

If, in fact, this bill does not have real triggers in there, if there is not language in this bill that guarantees that nothing else will happen unless these enforcement mechanisms are in place, I won't support it.

Now that the bill's out, we know that it legalizes most of the 11-18 million illegal aliens before any enforcement provisions kick in. Rubio didn't deny it.

We don't want to wait on legalizing, and I'll tell you why, and my original position was that we wanted to secure the border first and then legalize. The problem is we have millions of people here now, by some estimates 10, 11 million. We want to know who they are and freeze the problem in place. I don't want that number to grow.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderwars
After the Limbaugh interview, and after the Gang of Eight's afternoon press conference, Rubio delivered a passionate speech defending his bill on the Senate floor. In it, he pressed for a lengthy and open process so all 92 Senators not in the Gang can learn what's in the bill. In the end, Rubio may end up regretting that statement.
1 posted on 04/19/2013 6:08:36 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Sorry, but RINO-beo is now off my radar.


2 posted on 04/19/2013 6:10:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: EXCH54FE
All thru this proccess Rubio has talked the talk, but his implied actions as a Gang of Eight member have not comported with his words.

IMO his talk is salve for his Team Party supporters and nothing more.

3 posted on 04/19/2013 6:12:49 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Da Coyote

I voted for and supported senore’ Rubio for his senate run.
I will not again support him even for dog catcher.


4 posted on 04/19/2013 6:12:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: EXCH54FE
It doesn't matter one iota how much border control is in his bill because it will be enforced the same as the border control in the current law... meaning ZERO enforcement.
5 posted on 04/19/2013 6:13:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: Da Coyote

He’s MIA in my world.....Rubio Who? He can stick his AMNESTY up his a$$


6 posted on 04/19/2013 6:13:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EXCH54FE

He definitely distorted his bill. He has proven himself to be a useful idiot for the Progressive Democrats and is clearly easily manipulated by them. He is certainly no Ted Cruz.

On the Rush show Rubio sounded like a kid caught stealing. The stress was showing. He was talking extremely rapidly and making excuses and “explanations” a mile a minute. I think he realizes he has now blown whatever possibilities that may have existed for him to be win, as a conservative, the Republican presidential nomination in the 2016 election.

He may try to redeem himself in future years, but he may well be beyond redemption since he has shown himself to be so untrustworthy. Rush seemed sad as he interviewed him and probably realized that Rubio was self destructing before him.


7 posted on 04/19/2013 6:15:08 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: EXCH54FE

Rubio is worse than Toomey.

Still trying to sell his load of cr@p, with ‘best intentions’.

Rubio can kiss any national office good-bye as far as I’m concerned. Let him be only the Floridians’ headache.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 6:16:07 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Rubio was McCained, he just does not know it.


9 posted on 04/19/2013 6:16:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EXCH54FE

Too bad Rush won’t be on to talk about this today. I heard Rubio on the program yesterday. He was weak. Rush seemed to be disappointed in what he was hearing.


10 posted on 04/19/2013 6:18:38 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: EXCH54FE

11 posted on 04/19/2013 6:19:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE
RE :”Now that the bill's out, we know that it legalizes most of the 11-18 million illegal aliens before any enforcement provisions kick in. Rubio didn't deny it.
We don't want to wait on legalizing, and I'll tell you why, and my original position was that we wanted to secure the border first and then legalize. The problem is we have millions of people here now, by some estimates 10, 11 million. We want to know who they are and freeze the problem in place. I don't want that number to grow. “

Unless I am mistaken that legalization that happens immediately is similar to what Obama did by exec order, they get a temporary probation type visa not the Green card.

If the plan is amnesty then I would expect it to do this, submit volunteers to a background check with no promises attached.

Much of what Rubio says sounds like BS I listed in other pings, is there actually a bill to read?

12 posted on 04/19/2013 6:19:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Makes me think he owes someone a BIG favor.

I think the marathon bombing will change the conversation on immigration.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 6:21:06 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Joe Boucher

I was there as well Joe, and like you he is gone as far as I am concerned. The Limbaugh interview may very well be the death for this piece of crap legislation. Naturally, the goings on in Boston in the last 24 hours will also be a big factor in it going down.

One other questions that is bothering me tremendously is why did the FBI hold off for 24 hours of releasing what we know was released to certain media outlets of these two?

Did Obama delay that so he could dominate the airwaves to express his indignation to the bouncing of his weapons bill?


14 posted on 04/19/2013 6:21:30 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Sir Napsalot

It is a shame. He had so much potential. Clearly, he has become a DC stooge. His only saving grace will be to withdrawal his support during debate due to inherent flaws. I don’t expect that, as DC politicians will never admit they were wrong.

As another poster mentioned, Ted Cruz has basically destroyed Rubio’s initial basis as a national leader. As much as I like Rubio overall, Cruz has shown himself to be a stronger conservative, more bold, more brave, and a better communicator. He basically “Out-Rubio’d” Rubio.


15 posted on 04/19/2013 6:21:49 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: EXCH54FE
Amnesty Now, Border Security/Fence in 5 years. ...maybe.

If not, we'll have a meeting.

Rubio - T.E.A. Party Fraud / RINO

16 posted on 04/19/2013 6:25:49 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rubio has already changed his position on border security. Now, he is okay with that can being kicked down the road another 5 years or so.

==

I didn’t consider Rubio serious previously. If he were, all that needed to be done was use EXISTING laws. There is no need for new laws for that.

Now, he says he is for smaller government, but his proposal calls for a committee to take over border security, if Homeland Security doesn’t provide border security. Huh???

First, a new committee means bigger government, more bureaucracy.

Second, if the HSD can’t handle that, why does that massive bureaucratic boondoggle even exist?

==

Maybe, since the Boston Marathon Massacre seems to have been perpetrated by Chechnyan Islamists, that may cause the new immigration bill to be crammed up Rubio’s butt.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 6:30:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: longtermmemmory
"Rubio was McCained, he just does not know it."

Yep, the GOPe probably loves the idea of a young, Hispanic McCain to lead the party into permanent token opposition to Democrat hegemony.

18 posted on 04/19/2013 6:30:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: EXCH54FE

Looks like Rubio cares more about his job than the country. He’s just a typical politician now. He knows he gets his votes from the Hispanic community and rather than finding them jobs and have them work to become citizens he wants to give them a pass into our welfare system.


19 posted on 04/19/2013 6:35:10 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: EXCH54FE

Spending too much time with Juan McCain can result in contraction of his illness.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:51 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: EXCH54FE

The other thing that made me mad, was he said no federal benefits. well, lots of the benefits are run through the states with the federal government providing funding.

Rubio is trying to pull a fast one.


21 posted on 04/19/2013 6:40:56 AM PDT by dila813
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To: EXCH54FE

Rush is living proof that you don’t need a degree from an ivy covered university to be smart, perceptive and literate..


22 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:35 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: EXCH54FE

We have to get out in front of the next election cycle and pick our candidates and not let the press, RINO pudnits (like screamin’ Coulter), or lib leaning states first in the primaries do it for us.


23 posted on 04/19/2013 6:43:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: TexasCajun
As one who was willing to give this... or something like it..a chance, I vote thumbs down. In Rush's conversation, and another yesterday, I heard lots of proposed details and zero discussion of a fence. I'd like to hear; "Build a fence, secure the border, then we'll talk. Or when the border is secure, these provisions initiate, but not until then.

If the first govt. commission doesn't get the job done, they'll create another one ??? Sounds foolproof, eh ?

As currently proposed, I understand there are legal loopholes which could tie things up in court ( a near certainty) which would then allow Homeland Security to deem whatever they wanted to deem.

The dems seem to like it, so I'm petrified from the start. I don't believe the House will allow it, so the bottom line may be Rubio's creds crashing in flames.

Cream rises and so has Cruz. Rubio went too far, curdled and needs to be scooped away.

24 posted on 04/19/2013 6:43:34 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: EXCH54FE

Rubio has self-immolated.

Better than Crist, to be sure, but still owned by the Big Business Lobby and La Raza.


25 posted on 04/19/2013 6:48:25 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“It doesn’t matter one iota how much border control is in his bill because it will be enforced the same as the border control in the current law... meaning ZERO enforcement. “

So true. The Congress can pass any law they want but getting Napolitano and Holder to enforce is immpossible.


26 posted on 04/19/2013 6:48:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Rubio is at worst a RINO traitor and at best a clueless rube. Either way, he’s finished as far as I am concerned.


27 posted on 04/19/2013 6:51:58 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: chiller

Will Box For Passport - Images by Johannes Hirn
28 posted on 04/19/2013 6:52:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Until they will enforce the current laws, which would cause most illegals to deport themselves, there is no sense is creating new laws to ignore.

Let’s face facts: Polidiots are using illegal aliens as illegal votes. We are not being represented, illegal aliens are.


29 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: EXCH54FE

www.senate.gov

Call your Senators now and tell them “NO!”

They need to hear from everyone. This bill is anti-American, and will not secure us.

Eleven plus years after 9/11/01 and our borders are still sieves.

Thousands of crimes are committed everyday by these “folks in the shadows”.

No other country tolerates this, not even Mexico, the hellhole that it is.

So, with 23 million people out of work, why should we?


30 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:06 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: EXCH54FE

RE :”Now that the bill’s out, we know that it legalizes most of the 11-18 million illegal aliens before any enforcement provisions kick in. Rubio didn’t deny it.
We don’t want to wait on legalizing, and I’ll tell you why, and my original position was that we wanted to secure the border first and then legalize. The problem is we have millions of people here now, by some estimates 10, 11 million. We want to know who they are and freeze the problem in place. I don’t want that number to grow. “

So, NOT securing the border means that the NUMBER WON’T GROW?


31 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:28 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: EXCH54FE
Real Immigration reform is not complicated.

Section 1: Affirm the foreign citizenship of illegal aliens currently residing in the US.

Section 2: Grant foreign citizens currently in the US but gainfully employed the right to purchase a 10 year renewable work permit.

Section 3: Close the borders, deport all foreign citizens in the US not possessing a valid work permit.

Anything else is just a veiled attempt to create a permanent underclass of unproductive people beholden to the government; the perfect herd of sheeple to vote the wishes of their masters in Washington.

32 posted on 04/19/2013 7:05:38 AM PDT by trek
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To: Da Coyote

He should be on your radar to support a real Republican to take his place. He needs to be our #1 target/ ridding America of traitors.

Rubio is an enemy of the American Worker, freedom and Liberty.

His Chief of Staff is a George Soros employee.


33 posted on 04/19/2013 7:15:07 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: EXCH54FE
Rubio’s problem is that he's trying to sell a load of crap, because, well, it's a load of crap.
34 posted on 04/19/2013 7:17:42 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: trek
Section 1: Affirm the foreign citizenship of illegal aliens currently residing in the US.

Section 2: Grant foreign citizens currently in the US but gainfully employed the right to purchase a 5 year renewable work permit. Only after this employment has been offered to every available welfare recipient who has comparable skills.

Section 3: Close the borders, deport all foreign citizens in the US not possessing a valid work permit.

Section 4: Whatever low skill job these foreign workers are performing must be offered to an existing welfare recipient. If that current welfare recipient refuses the job, his/her benefits are permanently cut off.

Section 5: Employers are 100% responsible for all care and welfare of foreign employees and their dependents, including, but not limited to: medical, housing, food, education, and transportation.

35 posted on 04/19/2013 7:18:28 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: EXCH54FE
Even after Rubio's lame A$$ performance yesterday, Rush still had to make sure we knew that Rubio is a “true conservative.”

Sorry, but Rush is just as full of sh*t as Rubio is! Sadly, Rush has left all of the heavy lifting to Mark Levin. I'm seriously wondering what's happening to Rush?

36 posted on 04/19/2013 7:23:50 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Don Corleone
“Rush is living proof that you don’t need a degree from an ivy covered university to be smart, perceptive and literate..”
____________________________________________________

Yeah, Rush is a friggen genius! He also made the “smart, perceptive and literate” observation on yesterday's show that Rubio is a “true conservative!” Sure thing Rush...whatever you say.

37 posted on 04/19/2013 7:27:18 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Biggirl; Clint N. Suhks; Fudd Fan; advertising guy; sloop; MagUSNRET; lightman

Rubio distorts “Amnesty Bill” Ping, for Rush Ping List.


38 posted on 04/19/2013 7:32:42 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: EXCH54FE
“We want to know who they are and freeze the problem in place.”

Illogical!

Without securing the border & substantially stopping illegal immigration, illegals will rush to cross over to gain amnesty.

Knowing who they are, that is, identifying illegals eligible for amnesty, is not something that happens over night. It could take years given our bureaucracy.

Rubio knows full well that the Executive branch of our government has repeatedly ignored our immigration laws & failed for decades to secure our borders adequately. Nothing prevents Obama & future presidents from continuing that tradition.

The net of Rubio’s immigration law is that we will give amnesty, welfare, & quick citizenship to anyone who can sneak into the country. This is not an immigration bill. It is an open borders bill!

39 posted on 04/19/2013 7:52:33 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: TexasCajun

I’ve long maintained that opposition to a border fence/wall on the grounds that it would not work are based on the fact that it would work.


40 posted on 04/19/2013 7:53:28 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

A fence should be required to be completed before any amnesty discussion starts. With no fence, you can’t enforce any rules because they can just stroll across the border again. Rubio is insane


41 posted on 04/19/2013 8:15:31 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: EXCH54FE

Rubio is a sympathetic person and member of Congress. His heart and mind are in the the right place....BUT IN THE WRONG TIME.

Sure something must be done according to Rubio’s passions....BUT NOT NOW.

I wouldn’t mind seeing an America in my lifetime where we had open borders with Canada and Mexico but not before so many other things must be resolved....LIKELY NOT IN OUR LIFETIME.

Rush was, as usual, right in his interview with Rubio. He pointed out a fact that Rubio could not deal with, that the last immigration amnesty resulted in losing California to the democrats. An amnesty now will result in LOSING AMERICA.

Until we have control of our voting process for citizens, until we can distinguish between who and who are not eligible for our social safety nets, until we have a government that is ready, willing and able to enforce common sense provisions of law, new proposals to deal with illegal residents are OFF THE TABLE for Republicans.

One thing that Rubio was right about that NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW, is the chain immigration provision of Teddy Kennedy’s folly. But that will need to wait until the GOP controls the Senate with CONSERVATIVE SENATORS.

So get busy Marco and help Sarah and others ELECT TEA PARTY APPROVED SENATORS IN 2014. That’s the priority.


42 posted on 04/19/2013 8:23:01 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: EXCH54FE

So, the illegals will not be a part of the Obama healthcare system.....what a gift to the law breakers! No fines like the American taxpayers will be forced to pay.

The illegals will CONTINUE to receive FREE (taxpayer funded) healthcare, FREE housing and FREE food stamps, are we to believe the government will deny any of these things to them? They will be guaranteed free EVERYTHING for 13 years, then what, will they deport them? The answer is NO!

None of these freebees will cost the illegals a penny. Are we to believe that all of the illegals will SUDDENLY decide to acquire gainful employment and pay their fair share...NOTHING BUT LIES.


43 posted on 04/19/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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