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Bomb North Korea, Before Itís Too Late
NYT ^ | April 12, 2013 | JEREMI SURI

Posted on 04/13/2013 2:25:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

April 12, 2013

Bomb North Korea, Before It’s Too Late

By JEREMI SURI

AUSTIN, Tex.

SINCE February, the North Korean government has followed one threatening move with another. The spiral began with an underground nuclear test. Then the North declared the armistice that ended the Korean War invalid. The young dictator Kim Jong-un followed with a flurry of threats to attack civilian targets in South Korea, Japan and the United States.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: missile; nkorea; nkwar; nuclearnk; nuke
The news here is not that somebody is urging the bombing of NK facilities, but NYT bothered to print it. Was it something they were drinking?
1 posted on 04/13/2013 2:25:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 04/13/2013 2:25:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
ZERO is being out maneuvered by a kid.
No surprise.
3 posted on 04/13/2013 2:36:59 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Call it what it is: Attempt at People Control: NOT GUN CONTROL. Gun control is holding it steady.)
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To: DeaconRed
Kerry is in the region to make Zero's wish happen. “Dialogue song” is being played again.
4 posted on 04/13/2013 2:39:37 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yeah, let’s start yet another bombing campaign... with China sitting just to the north, what could go wrong?

As for why the NYT printed it, libs are all for going to war, sibling as there’s a rich political payoff for the little dictator, Colonel Barackamar Obamadaffi.


5 posted on 04/13/2013 2:52:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

sibling as = so long as

Damned auto-correct.


6 posted on 04/13/2013 2:53:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA
Yeah, let’s start yet another bombing campaign... with China sitting just to the north, what could go wrong?

Good point; but rest easy, 0bumble will not strike first.

7 posted on 04/13/2013 2:58:01 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have the sick feeling that this whole thing is theater choreographed to make OUR dear leader look like a tough guy.

Work with the Norks to Make Kim Jong Un out to be a modern day Khrushchev, bluster your way through a contrived Cuban missile crisis of your own, maybe shoot down a missile, then send them a boatload of cash when they agree to peace.

Zero gets the Nobel Peace prize and KJU gets five billion dollars.


8 posted on 04/13/2013 3:45:56 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Don’t give them any smart ideas!


9 posted on 04/13/2013 3:58:48 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

North Korea is China’s puppet to gather all its children under one roof and oboingo will do nothing because he’s in on it to


10 posted on 04/13/2013 4:01:11 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: luvbach1
rest easy, 0bumble will not strike first.

Unless, of course, it is upon American citizens.

11 posted on 04/13/2013 4:07:43 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Uhh, doesn’t anyone realize China has a defense pact with NK? If we bomb NK China may launch an attack on the US.


12 posted on 04/13/2013 4:09:22 AM PDT by Justa
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To: All

Interesting that the author of the NYT article is from Austin Texas which is one of the targeted cities for North Korea’s nukes . One article mentioned that Austin is targeted because of their large Samsung company.


13 posted on 04/13/2013 4:12:47 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: CharlotteVRWC

That is interesting. Austin, home of the Texas left. A target city on NK’s list. Calling for a first-strike bombing attack on NK. Talk about situational ethics.


14 posted on 04/13/2013 4:20:34 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Since it's in the slimes, it'll be interesting to see if the rest of the lame stream media goes along with it.

But even if they do, this admin won't do anything but golf.

b4its2late

15 posted on 04/13/2013 4:21:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’ve been there and done that.....it did not work out too well. Does anyone really believe Bam has the guts to nuke NK?


16 posted on 04/13/2013 4:26:11 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Of course, everyone does understand that this whole thing is being used to take Iran of the Iran-NK axis out of the news?

The end game is not Un’s, but the Iranian Supreme Leader’s ploy for more time to get a nuke to use on Israel.


17 posted on 04/13/2013 4:27:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Sounds more readable, especially with the NYT pushing it. Show of force facade.


18 posted on 04/13/2013 4:56:43 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo
You beat me to this, Tiger! I was about to post the same article.

For the New York Times to print an op-ed piece calling for a first strike is shocking. And as for them being in Obama’s pocket, here's their editorial today on the subject: “North Korea poses a more imminent nuclear threat than Iran. But so far, Mr. Kerry’s continuing trip does not make us confident that the administration has a fully thought out strategy that will be any more successful than the current one, which has failed to curb either the North’s nuclear weapons program or its bellicosity.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/opinion/the-north-korea-problem.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

Also, you might like to send this surprisingly positive profile of President Park Geun-hye to the Korea ping list:

Steely Leader of South Korea Is Battle-Ready

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/world/asia/park-geun-hye-steely-leader-of-south-korea-is-battle-ready.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130413&pagewanted=all

The influence of the “old media” is less than it once was, but the New York Times is definitely an opinion leader in American liberal political circles. Something is clearly going on among the liberal elites if the New York Times is criticizing Obama, complimenting the daughter of a military dictator, and printing op-ed pieces calling for military first strikes. This simply isn't at all part of the normal playbook.

But then again, King Jong-un has also departed from the playbook, and perhaps those people in elite liberal circles who have access to information we don't have good reason to be afraid.

19 posted on 04/13/2013 4:58:06 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bomb the North Korean missile site while making public statements that we are not seeking regime change and then hope they don't retaliate?

This guy is a flipping moron. I hope Barack Obama Valerie Jarrett isn't as stupid as he is.

20 posted on 04/13/2013 5:08:53 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: TigerLikesRooster

On his blog, Professor Suri admits he voted for Obama.
Does anyone think the NYT would give this kind of space to a (gasp) conservative?


21 posted on 04/13/2013 5:39:04 AM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: darrellmaurina
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The NYT is just like the Soviet-style Pravda daily propaganda sheet.

"Nothing" was ever printed in Pravda accidentally.



Dittos for this NYT "citizen editorial".

The Obama-zone hired a ghost-writer to write this "belicose puff-piece" ... then John Kerry's State Department handed it to the NY Slimes ...

it's all designed to send a message ... to the Chi-Coms, North Koreans ... et al ...



I don't care what anyone says.

Sure, the U.S. Military can open-up a cosmic can of Whoop-Ass on North Korea, and sure, the South Koreans are primed for a classic bar fight ...

But ... once that first artillery salvo targeting Seoul starts from North Korea ...

whether the US clobbers North Korea with tactical nukes or 500 MOABs ...

MILLIONS will die as "blood flows like rivers".



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Don't you just hate it when American Jouralism has descended to just another Gobbels-like "Ministry of Propaganda" ?



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22 posted on 04/13/2013 5:41:10 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Even though the left publicly present an anti-war face, deep down they LOVE the concept of all out world conflict.

A wide world war gives the left an excuse to command control the economy-—see FA Hayek.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 5:41:24 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Common sense says, “Why would China ever want to call in their markers and demand payment on the US debt to them?”

Well, if Obama decides to start a Short, Disastrous War with NK, then China will have the excuse that they need to call in the debt. Is this the final part of the Obama/Soros plan to destroy the USA?


24 posted on 04/13/2013 5:51:46 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If the leftist scumbags are whining about it, you know it’s a distraction.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 5:59:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ScottinVA

1.”Colonel Barackamar Obamadaffi” is an instant classic.
2. I hate spitting coffee on my keyboard. Good one!


26 posted on 04/13/2013 6:00:27 AM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If North Korea can use its small nuclear arsenal to blackmail the region with impunity, why shouldn’t the mullahs in Tehran try to do the same?

As soon as the Mullahs get the bomb that's exactly what they'll do... well, 10 seconds after bombing Israel.

That said, North Korea's the armpit of the world. They should be laughed off the face of the earth... Bombing a country that has nothing and is nothing is a waste of time. Get with China and kill all members of the administration. The people there are slaves - there's no purpose to include them in the slaughter.

27 posted on 04/13/2013 6:38:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

28 posted on 04/13/2013 6:41:55 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: GOPJ

If you look at the night photos, there is only light in one spot.

It is possible to make the blackness uniform. By destroying the light in the one spot, there can be uniform blackness and then the possibility of light springing up all over.


29 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bomb North Korea, Before It’s Too Late

Too bad Truman didn't let MacArthur finish the job back in the fifties, then we would have to worry about the NORKS or the ChiComs.

30 posted on 04/13/2013 6:54:06 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: darrellmaurina
But then again, King Jong-un has also departed from the playbook, and perhaps those people in elite liberal circles who have access to information we don't have good reason to be afraid.

Such as New York being on the list of targets?

31 posted on 04/13/2013 7:02:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: bert

You’re right. The North Korean people deserve better...


32 posted on 04/13/2013 7:02:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Actually the goal should be to take out the little fat man and his circle of ruling elite. It’s not like comfortable homes are difficult to spot in the midst of that sh*thole of a country.


33 posted on 04/13/2013 7:05:09 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Work with the Norks to Make Kim Jong Un out to be a modern day Khrushchev, bluster your way through a contrived Cuban missile crisis of your own, maybe shoot down a missile, then send them a boatload of cash when they agree to peace.

10 years or so ago I would have said you're being too cynical about our government. Now, I think such machinations are all too plausible.

34 posted on 04/13/2013 7:06:11 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: GOPJ
They should be laughed off the face of the earth... Bombing a country that has nothing and is nothing is a waste of time.

They have nuclear weapons and are using them to extort money and aid from the US and its allies. Precisely because it has "nothing," is the reason why we should be worried. They will sell and trade their nuclear technology with anyone who has money. They were involved in the nuclear facility that was destroyed by Israel in Syria. They are working closely with the Iranians.

Would NK sell their technology to non-state actors, i.e., terrorist groups? I think we are being very foolish if we believe with can contain the NK nuclear program. And it sends a message to others like Iran, Syria, etc. If you want to ensure that the US stays out of your internal affairs, get a nuclear weapon.

35 posted on 04/13/2013 7:09:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TigerLikesRooster
i say we just go for it, what are we waiting for? /
36 posted on 04/13/2013 7:10:43 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: ScottinVA

There are “good” wars and “bad” wars. “Good” wars are the ones we fight when a democrat is in the white house.


37 posted on 04/13/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

drop Choco-Pies and send their undernourished soldiers into sugar shock


38 posted on 04/13/2013 10:15:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

NOKO wants to be bombed, because immediately after they will be the global victim and will request aid, construction equipment and above all food.

They are so far down through generations of communism of the most hard cored type they have absolutely no resources to correct it on their own, they will not just overnight have their “fall of the Berlin Wall” scenario, they are far dead and gone, they have no patriots hoarding ammo to take back the country for freedom and liberty.

All they can do now is to be the victim and to gain sympathy. I would not be surprised if they have an attempted plan to counterfeit a sub launched nuclear missile that would look the same and have the same signature as one launched from a US sub, and they will send their sub well offshore and launch it at themselves, all to create the illusion of being attacked first.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 11:27:47 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It's a good thing to see the Slimes on board with this. Yay.

We bombed Serbia for less. I don't know what we are waiting for. We must have a really chicken/stupid/worthless/ineffective leader......oh wait.

Hopefully I am wrong and it is already in the works.

40 posted on 04/13/2013 1:58:32 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bomb North Korea, Before It’s Too Late

We had the chance in 1951 with General MacArthur in charge. MacArthur started out a press conference in Korea (7 Mar 1951) by tweaking President Truman, with references to what he called "the serious, indeed abnormal inhibitions placed on me, the lack of additional forces given me and other restraints imposed from Washington." Truman fired him 11 Apr 1951 for "repeated conflicts over the conduct of the war, and critical remarks he had made against the administration."

By now we are about 62 years too late!

It's probably for the best. At the time we had already lost our monopoly on nuclear weapons. If Mac had proceeded north with nuclear assist he most probably would have taken on the Chinese Communists. The USSR had nuclear weapons by late August 1949 and would most likely have entered the spreading conflict with both sides going nuclear. "Better dead than red"? I'm not really sure...

Regards,
GtG

41 posted on 04/13/2013 2:56:47 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Free in Texas

LOL!! Thanks!


42 posted on 04/13/2013 3:04:34 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well the longer we wait the better prepared North Korea will be to carry out a seriously devastating attack.

Sooner or later north Korea will probably make a move seeing themselves doomed otherwise. They need external revenue to keep their commuistist dictatorship alive. They only have 3 options to get such a thing:

1: Transform themselfs to free up their economy so their people can actually work for it.
- This has proven unacceptable to the north Korean government over the last 50+ years.

2: Extort foreigners with threats of war & attack into funding their regime. (Such as is currently their strategy)
-This will only work so long as their corrupt system can survive on the sums of money they are able to steal and extort from our corrupt politicians. As it is already not enough we can assume that this survival plan is faltering.

3: Sell what they do have & produce which is weapons of a somewhat 2ndary quality thus forcing them to seek markets forbidden to everyone else. IE terrorist.
- This is also happening with regard to North Korea despite our attempt to sanctions & blockade them.

So one way or the other either North Korea is going to nuke us directly or they are going to sell their nukes to someone else who will such as a terrorist organization.

I need not remind anyone that there is no defense we could possablity make that would keep them at bay forever. It is not possible to win a defensive war so sooner or later they will hit us.


43 posted on 04/13/2013 3:50:43 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
LOL, the pinkos who believe in the NY Times must have their heads spinning like Linda Blair in The Exorcist.. Hell, North Korea is their ideal of the perfect state.
44 posted on 04/13/2013 3:54:32 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: ScottinVA
Yeah, let’s start yet another bombing campaign... with China sitting just to the north, what could go wrong?

Sounds like you're conceding our position in the world to China.

45 posted on 04/13/2013 6:33:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

It is all a show. A deadly one.


46 posted on 04/13/2013 6:36:51 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: tsowellfan

I’m saying bombing North Korea will involve a whole lot more than our idiot politicians can imagine. And are we assuming the Norks don’t have functional alliances with countries who’ve placed terror cells inside this country?

If we strike the Norks, we’d better know what we’re heading into.


47 posted on 04/13/2013 7:11:01 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

An attack on NK would probably result in the near destruction of Seoul via thousands of artillery tubes on the border. If the US really believes the Norks have the capability to launch a devastating attack on the US, we would likely have to make that terrible tradeoff.

No good answers here, and none that I have.


48 posted on 04/13/2013 9:02:30 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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