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Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill
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Posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

2 minutes ago Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill Posted by CNN's Tom Cohen

Washington (CNN) - The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to overcome a Republican-led filibuster against tougher gun laws, clearing the way for a major congressional debate on a package of proposals sought by President Barack Obama in the aftermath of the Connecticut school massacre.

The procedural vote followed a breakthrough by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, and Pat Toomey, R-Pennsylvania,

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0pansification; airballairhead; banglist; cokeheadinchief; guncontrol; guncontroldebate; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Who are the RINOs who sold us out?


2 posted on 04/11/2013 8:55:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It isn’t really the worst thing that could happen. Now they all have to go on the record and we get our list of who to vote out of office in 2014. Plus this is going nowhere in the House.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 8:57:05 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Alexander Ayotte Burr Chambliss Coburn Collins Corker Flake Graham Hoeven Isakson Kirk McCain Toomey Wicker


4 posted on 04/11/2013 8:57:07 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Sub-Driver

it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 8:58:08 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: cotton1706

Both the RINOs from Tennessee joined the traitors.


6 posted on 04/11/2013 8:58:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: cotton1706

Both the RINOs from Tennessee joined the traitors.


7 posted on 04/11/2013 8:59:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: CityCenter

“Plus this is going nowhere in the House.”

There will be a lot of pressure on Boehner to bring the senate bill to the House floor. I’d prefer that the House pass it’s own bill and the senate and house go to conference. They’ve been doing whatever possible to not have conferernce committees. They want to get both houses to pass bills quickly so the president can have legislative victories.

Also, I’m sure Pelosi will try to get a discharge petition to bring the senate bill to the House floor, and she needs only 218 signatures for that. And moderates love helping the democrats undermine conservatives.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 9:00:02 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Alexander is up for reelection next year. Any chance of a primary challenge?


9 posted on 04/11/2013 9:00:57 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: JohnBrowdie

oesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house.

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It really does matter. These so called republicans are traitors to the constitution and their constituents that put them in office to fight, not give in.


10 posted on 04/11/2013 9:01:22 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: cotton1706

I haven’t heard anything, but one can always hope.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 9:01:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: CityCenter

I think the assessment is that red state Democrats will use this opportunity to vote against the legislation, because everyone knows it will never pass the House, that way they can run back their constituents and say “see! I voted against it!”. It’s a ploy.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 9:02:07 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: mardi59

it.doesn’t.matter.


13 posted on 04/11/2013 9:02:45 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is very disheartening. Why bother sending money to DeMint


14 posted on 04/11/2013 9:02:59 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: Viennacon
Both of my POS RINO Senators from Georgia voted for this.

Georgia can do so much better.

15 posted on 04/11/2013 9:04:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
"it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house."

Exactly! Which is why they aren't even considering any weapons or magazine bans. Reid decided that he isn't going to have his Senators that may be in tough races left vulnerable by potentially suicidal votes, which would be all for nothing because the House will leave them 'holding the bag'. This is why we're seeing a more benign bill brought up, because it's the only type of bill that would stand a snowball's chance in hell of even being brought up for a vote in the House. (of course, this is all assuming the House GOP having a backbone, ect...ect)

16 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:08 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: JohnBrowdie
it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house.

It does matter, there are a LOT of gutless Republican traitors in the house, too.

17 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:08 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: CityCenter
"Now they all have to go on the record and we get our list of who to vote out of office in 2014."

We already know who those people are. They need to stop using our God-given rights as a political gotcha game.

"Plus this is going nowhere in the House."

It could, and should, have been killed dead in the Senate. When will Republicans learn to quit falling back and stand and fight for once?

18 posted on 04/11/2013 9:08:19 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let the Senators vote for gun control & take their chances at reelection.


19 posted on 04/11/2013 9:09:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: KoRn

Stockman’s going send it back to the Senate because the universal background checks generate revenue and Senate cannot originate a bill that does so.


20 posted on 04/11/2013 9:09:30 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house.”

You have any links to support that? These people are not as stupid as you may think.


21 posted on 04/11/2013 9:11:08 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I have no hope in regards to the Senate.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: CityCenter

I have no hope in regards to John Boehner. Kicking the can is what brought us any number of continuing resolutions to fund the government, debt ceiling increases, cavings on taxes and God knows what else that we don’t even know about in Federal law.

Hold the damn line for once. Sorry for the rant.


23 posted on 04/11/2013 9:14:35 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Traitors, period.


24 posted on 04/11/2013 9:14:53 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Lazamataz

“Both of my POS RINO Senators from Georgia voted for this. Georgia can do so much better.”

I really hate to use these words, but . . . Yes. We. Can.


25 posted on 04/11/2013 9:15:21 AM PDT by rhubarbk (BHO = FUBAR)
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To: CityCenter
Now they all have to go on the record and we get our list of who to vote out of office in 2014. Plus this is going nowhere in the House.

Exactly. Even radical lefties like Al Franken have been pretty wishy washy on gun control because he knows it could finish him.
26 posted on 04/11/2013 9:15:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I wouldn’t bet a Confederate dollar on that.

Boehner hasn’t got the balls to stop it.


27 posted on 04/11/2013 9:18:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: cripplecreek
I don't need a gun control vote to know that Stuart Smalley must go. His body of work, such as it is, makes that pretty clear.
28 posted on 04/11/2013 9:19:00 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
You have any links to support that? These people are not as stupid as you may think.

I'm not your web tutor. if you aren't capable of getting this straight in your head, it's just not my problem. and by the way, you are not the final arbiter on "these people's" intelligence.

29 posted on 04/11/2013 9:19:31 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Sub-Driver

The republican Senate Minority Leader sure knows how to deliver the vote, doesn’t he?

Too bad it’s usually delivered to the opposition.


30 posted on 04/11/2013 9:19:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: JohnBrowdie; All
it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house.

I head someone on Levin the other night, that Obama has 10 or are we down to 9 weeks before the next House and Senate Vacay, and that kicks-off the 2014 Election Season, after that nothing will get done....

Let him run his Bolshevik Bills in the Senate only to Die in the House...

We need to run out the Clock People....

31 posted on 04/11/2013 9:21:26 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Sub-Driver

Heller won’t be in office next time around if my vote has anything to do with it!


32 posted on 04/11/2013 9:22:50 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: TexasCajun

Toomey has just told the conservatives of Pa that he wants to join Santorum on the rubber chicken circuit.


33 posted on 04/11/2013 9:24:30 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative (If this be treason, make the most of it. - Patrick Henry)
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To: TexasCajun

I wrote my senator, Burr, telling him what I think about his vote.

However, after thinking about it, I wonder if this could actually help the repubs on election day.

Dems will have to expose their position, as will repubs, one way or the other.

Dims who vote against the gun control bills will lose the liberal voters and but if they don’t vote against gun control, they will lose their office in any state other than the stupid states.

Repubs will be afraid to vote for it except for the few stupid rinos.

Killing the bill before it went to the floor would have allowed all of the secret traitors to duck the extreme pressure and the next few weeks under the microscope that they will now have to endure. It would have encouraged the back door secret deals that we have witnessed so often recently.

So will it help the conservatives?

I don’t know, but I propose the question.


34 posted on 04/11/2013 9:28:08 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: JohnBrowdie

McCain-Feingold was supposed to be struck down by the Supreme Court, too. So was Obamacare.

Never assume. This needed to be stopped NOW. We have been sold out and every Republican who voted cloture needs to be primaried and lose their job.

}:-)4


35 posted on 04/11/2013 9:31:26 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: CityCenter

It does matter, the Senate will vote on that UN anti-gun treaty.

Now we know who stands with America on that piece of garbage.


36 posted on 04/11/2013 9:32:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Viennacon

Unless they know the “fix”is in....


37 posted on 04/11/2013 9:32:11 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The GOP lets the Dems set the agenda and then compromises. Every single time its a step closer to big govt utopia of the leftists.


38 posted on 04/11/2013 9:33:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Senate detours debt problems.Now kids keep your eyes on the left hand..............


39 posted on 04/11/2013 9:33:32 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Moose4

we don’t have a 30-odd seat advantage in the SCOTUS. I’m not assuming anything, I’m simply applying common sense.


40 posted on 04/11/2013 9:34:03 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

How are you on the move here to appoint senators per legislative session ?


41 posted on 04/11/2013 9:34:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They aren’t RINOs. They are the Republican party. You are kidding yourself if you don’t think the party leadership is like minded.

Just wait on the latest from Rubio and his “Gang of....” buddies.

Republicans are a bigger problem in my mind. Everyone knows where the Dems stand. The GOP thrives on deceiving its supporters.


42 posted on 04/11/2013 9:35:39 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: cotton1706

Maybe now if we don’t split conservative vote here as usual
If Van Hillary stays home ....the perennial spoiler


43 posted on 04/11/2013 9:35:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: MattinNJ

DeMint retired


44 posted on 04/11/2013 9:36:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Venturer
Boehner hasn’t got the balls to stop it.

boner is indeed nutless. but that is exactly why he wouldn't dare oppose the vocal and dedicated conservative core of his caucus to NOT oppose the thing.

45 posted on 04/11/2013 9:37:07 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
This only opens the debate and gets things out in the open. We all know that killers do not obey laws and gun laws will do nothing to the bad guy..

And we all know that guns are available. Our Fast & Furious proved it absolutely and got OUR people killed, too.

It's the house members you want to get on the record. How many have spoken up?

Reminder: The Dems own the Senate. They will do whatever Obama says...like good little sheep.

46 posted on 04/11/2013 9:39:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: JohnBrowdie

I have written before that the name of any recent government bill is a lie and accomplishes the exact opposite of what is stated. Check out the name of this bill.


47 posted on 04/11/2013 9:41:09 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: taildragger
Let him run his Bolshevik Bills in the Senate only to Die in the House...

yep. and the more confiscatory the senate bill is, the more votes it will lose in the house, and the more obvious the reasoning for opposing it becomes.

AND, it becomes a great campaign issue for our senate candidates when we try to retake the senate in the midterms.

48 posted on 04/11/2013 9:43:03 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Going nowhere in the house... Just like Obama care?


49 posted on 04/11/2013 9:44:13 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like 14 Repubs get A-list invites to the DC cocktail circuit. Congrats Pat Toomey for joining the RINO/Dem elites.


50 posted on 04/11/2013 9:45:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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