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Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill
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Posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: ecomcon

These will hardly be my last words on any subject. :-)


121 posted on 04/12/2013 8:45:02 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: JTHomes
As a gun owner, you WANT this provision. It prevents states from prohibiting interstate traveling with a firearm. Right now, states can pass whatever restrictions they want on travelers. A state can prohibit you from traveling with a firearm, in any condition. For example, California could pass a law saying that you can't travel with a firearm in California unless you have a California permit. What this provision does is limit state prohibitions. Under this provision, a state cannot prevent you from traveling with a firearm if it is unloaded, in a locked case, etc. If Ohio permits you to travel with a loaded side arm holstered, that would still be permitted under this law. But if Ohio were to suddenly changes its laws and become more restrictive, they can't be more restrictive than these minimum federal requirements for transport.

Re-read this carefully. It says “Notwithstanding any provision of any law (including a rule or regulation) of a State or any political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by this chapter from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm or ammunition shall be entitled to- “(1) transport a firearm for any lawful purpose ...”, and spells out the conditions under which a state must allow an owner to transport a firearm.

If you still don't understand it, find a good lawyer who can explain the provision.

(btw, Ohio requires that you have a license (permit) if you want to carry a loaded firearm holstered. If you are a non-resident, you must have a license from a state which Ohio recognizes for reciprocity. The good news is that North Carolina is one of those states. So, if you have a North Carolina permit, you can continue to drive through Ohio with your loaded firearm in your holster. If you don't have a recognized license, Ohio requires that you carry the firearm unloaded and either in an enclosed case or in plain view with the action open.)

122 posted on 04/13/2013 11:20:27 PM PDT by Traveling Lawyer (Not all lawyers can read, and not all readers can understand the law.)
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To: Traveling Lawyer

Sorry, that’s not a good trade. I understand what you are saying, but a state might as well ban traveling with a gun if I can’t have it loaded. “Any lawful purpose provided... the firearm is unloaded”. “Definition of Travel includes overnight lodging”. I’m better off with a baseball bat than an unloaded gun. I have a concealed permit, and understand the reciprocity laws of the states I travel in. But I see no provisions that preserve those rights. And when legislation like this is whip banged through the process like this one is, there is no chance for public feedback or proper analysis of the impact. Which is just what the traitors to the constitution want.

None of this should be open to debate. Otherwise, why not open up the 13th and 14th amendments to find reasonable restrictions? Maybe we can let Mexicans gain US citizenship with 3 years indentured servitude? That’s ridiculous of course, so why is tinkering with the 2nd Amendment tolerated?

I would much prefer that when a State passes an unconstitutional law, that the Feds use their power under the commerce clause as intended to make such laws unenforceable.


123 posted on 04/15/2013 6:59:08 AM PDT by JTHomes (28th: Congress shall make no law respecting economics , or prohibiting the free exercise of markets)
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